Did McCarthy and his staff sense it yesterday?

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Already heard that practice didn't go well last week but I didn't hear or see any of that before this game.

Most coaches base how their team is going to play based on how they practiced, how sharp they were with no drops and plenty of energy.

Their hope is that the team will "wake up" before the game but I wonder if McC and his staff thought they were still sleepwalking when the game started? Did they think they'd already won it?

McC has gone for it on 4th down before so that's not out of character but was he trying to instill something in his team by doing that yesterday? It wasn't about analytics as much as lethargy. Was he trying to build the fire? They didn't even have a smoldering one that needed fuel, they had no fire.

Watch that play again and the other 4th down attempt. Did you see any heightened level of enthusiasm or does that look like just another play?

Did McC and his staff get the feeling they were dealing with Parcells and Saban's worst nightmare, a team that believes it's press clippings? Parcells referred to it as "taking the cheese" and Saban's is "rat poison".

Failure is tough for any athlete but success playing for the Cowboys might be just as hard. Funny that Parcells waits for his 4th stop to use that "let's not get out the anointing oil just yet". They sell that stuff in the malls in North Texas.

The Dallas Cowboys are an anomaly in one regard, just being a Cowboy is something special and I flat do not get that. They've barely been relevant in two and half decades but the glow still remains.

I am undecided on McC and his staff at this point but this game Sunday will get me off that fence.

Another 4-4 team is coming into ATT with a win in the last game and looking to get up in the playoff hunt by spanking America's Team and this will be a most watched game so far in the season because the Cowboys got totally knocked off their feet and down for the count in the previous game.

Will they come up off that mat swinging or ready to be knocked out again? Can McC get their attention without risking a game by going for it? Will his players respond or continue to think they are just better?
 

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I wouldn't read that far into it. At the time the defense was playing well. Hindsight is always 20/20.

I did notice McCarthy mention something about coaching this week to eliminate penalties. I wonder if that made players a touch hesitant.
 

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Didn't help that the so called coach move a near rookie who was dominate at right tackle to left tackle. Then moved the vet just returning to the right side versus moving him to left or letting Ty go at it again. Why move a guy whose playing lights out? The team aint the only problem,
 

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Actually,not looking forward to facing Matty ice and that offense..this is a huge game.
 

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There are players who look fantastic in practice but horrific in games. There are the opposite guys who look average in practice but shine in games. But if the entire team looks bad in practice for a whole week you bet your bottom dollar they will look bad in the game. It's a failure on the entire coaching staff to allow players to practice poorly for a whole day and unforgivable something wasn't done the next day to get their attention. You absolutely stop practice and do whatever you can to get them to focus.
 

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There are players who look fantastic in practice but horrific in games. There are the opposite guys who look average in practice but shine in games. But if the entire team looks bad in practice for a whole week you bet your bottom dollar they will look bad in the game. It's a failure on the entire coaching staff to allow players to practice poorly for a whole day and unforgivable something wasn't done the next day to get their attention. You absolutely stop practice and do whatever you can to get them to focus.
Is that as easy to do as you make it seem? Gone are the days of rough practices and depth to scare the starters. All of these players know who their backups are and the coach isn't paid to coach, he is paid to win.

If the coach notices a starting WR has concentrations issues, does he bench him for a player not close in talent? If an OL is missing blocks but he's the best they have, what do they do?

charron, I think the one thing that drove Parcells and Johnson out of coaching was when the NFL shifted from the players being the tail to being the dog. Parrells was openly frustrated with the continuing pre-snap penalties by the OL yet he could not fix it.
 

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Is that as easy to do as you make it seem? Gone are the days of rough practices and depth to scare the starters. All of these players know who their backups are and the coach isn't paid to coach, he is paid to win.

If the coach notices a starting WR has concentrations issues, does he bench him for a player not close in talent? If an OL is missing blocks but he's the best they have, what do they do?

charron, I think the one thing that drove Parcells and Johnson out of coaching was when the NFL shifted from the players being the tail to being the dog. Parrells was openly frustrated with the continuing pre-snap penalties by the OL yet he could not fix it.


No if it was easy they'd all be highly successful. There is always a balance Head coaches have to strive for. Too much Parcels and you can lose the players, too much Wade and they look like yesterday. The team will always tell you what they need by how they practice. If CeeDee is correct then they clearly needed a kick in the butt.
 

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Already heard that practice didn't go well last week but I didn't hear or see any of that before this game.

Most coaches base how their team is going to play based on how they practiced, how sharp they were with no drops and plenty of energy.

Their hope is that the team will "wake up" before the game but I wonder if McC and his staff thought they were still sleepwalking when the game started? Did they think they'd already won it?

McC has gone for it on 4th down before so that's not out of character but was he trying to instill something in his team by doing that yesterday? It wasn't about analytics as much as lethargy. Was he trying to build the fire? They didn't even have a smoldering one that needed fuel, they had no fire.

Watch that play again and the other 4th down attempt. Did you see any heightened level of enthusiasm or does that look like just another play?

Did McC and his staff get the feeling they were dealing with Parcells and Saban's worst nightmare, a team that believes it's press clippings? Parcells referred to it as "taking the cheese" and Saban's is "rat poison".

Failure is tough for any athlete but success playing for the Cowboys might be just as hard. Funny that Parcells waits for his 4th stop to use that "let's not get out the anointing oil just yet". They sell that stuff in the malls in North Texas.

The Dallas Cowboys are an anomaly in one regard, just being a Cowboy is something special and I flat do not get that. They've barely been relevant in two and half decades but the glow still remains.

I am undecided on McC and his staff at this point but this game Sunday will get me off that fence.

Another 4-4 team is coming into ATT with a win in the last game and looking to get up in the playoff hunt by spanking America's Team and this will be a most watched game so far in the season because the Cowboys got totally knocked off their feet and down for the count in the previous game.

Will they come up off that mat swinging or ready to be knocked out again? Can McC get their attention without risking a game by going for it? Will his players respond or continue to think they are just better?

Can you link me to more about the bad practices? Want to know more about the details.
 

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Can you link me to more about the bad practices? Want to know more about the details.
It was a quote from Lamb about the practices this week. I don't know if that was a comment from a post game but I saw it in writing.
 

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Already heard that practice didn't go well last week but I didn't hear or see any of that before this game.

Most coaches base how their team is going to play based on how they practiced, how sharp they were with no drops and plenty of energy.

Their hope is that the team will "wake up" before the game but I wonder if McC and his staff thought they were still sleepwalking when the game started? Did they think they'd already won it?

McC has gone for it on 4th down before so that's not out of character but was he trying to instill something in his team by doing that yesterday? It wasn't about analytics as much as lethargy. Was he trying to build the fire? They didn't even have a smoldering one that needed fuel, they had no fire.

Watch that play again and the other 4th down attempt. Did you see any heightened level of enthusiasm or does that look like just another play?

Did McC and his staff get the feeling they were dealing with Parcells and Saban's worst nightmare, a team that believes it's press clippings? Parcells referred to it as "taking the cheese" and Saban's is "rat poison".

Failure is tough for any athlete but success playing for the Cowboys might be just as hard. Funny that Parcells waits for his 4th stop to use that "let's not get out the anointing oil just yet". They sell that stuff in the malls in North Texas.

The Dallas Cowboys are an anomaly in one regard, just being a Cowboy is something special and I flat do not get that. They've barely been relevant in two and half decades but the glow still remains.

I am undecided on McC and his staff at this point but this game Sunday will get me off that fence.

Another 4-4 team is coming into ATT with a win in the last game and looking to get up in the playoff hunt by spanking America's Team and this will be a most watched game so far in the season because the Cowboys got totally knocked off their feet and down for the count in the previous game.

Will they come up off that mat swinging or ready to be knocked out again? Can McC get their attention without risking a game by going for it? Will his players respond or continue to think they are just better?
I don't know.
 

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It was a quote from Lamb about the practices this week. I don't know if that was a comment from a post game but I saw it in writing.

That's all I've seen too. Was hoping someone in the press would go into more.
 

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Already heard that practice didn't go well last week but I didn't hear or see any of that before this game.

Most coaches base how their team is going to play based on how they practiced, how sharp they were with no drops and plenty of energy.

Their hope is that the team will "wake up" before the game but I wonder if McC and his staff thought they were still sleepwalking when the game started? Did they think they'd already won it?

McC has gone for it on 4th down before so that's not out of character but was he trying to instill something in his team by doing that yesterday? It wasn't about analytics as much as lethargy. Was he trying to build the fire? They didn't even have a smoldering one that needed fuel, they had no fire.

Watch that play again and the other 4th down attempt. Did you see any heightened level of enthusiasm or does that look like just another play?

Did McC and his staff get the feeling they were dealing with Parcells and Saban's worst nightmare, a team that believes it's press clippings? Parcells referred to it as "taking the cheese" and Saban's is "rat poison".

Failure is tough for any athlete but success playing for the Cowboys might be just as hard. Funny that Parcells waits for his 4th stop to use that "let's not get out the anointing oil just yet". They sell that stuff in the malls in North Texas.

The Dallas Cowboys are an anomaly in one regard, just being a Cowboy is something special and I flat do not get that. They've barely been relevant in two and half decades but the glow still remains.

I am undecided on McC and his staff at this point but this game Sunday will get me off that fence.

Another 4-4 team is coming into ATT with a win in the last game and looking to get up in the playoff hunt by spanking America's Team and this will be a most watched game so far in the season because the Cowboys got totally knocked off their feet and down for the count in the previous game.

Will they come up off that mat swinging or ready to be knocked out again? Can McC get their attention without risking a game by going for it? Will his players respond or continue to think they are just better?

I watched Parsons presser. I think his take seems relevant:

1. Denver played well
2. Dallas did not play their best ball

Add in the motivation Fangio talked about in regards to his guys feeling disrespected by the 4th down attempts— and you have a perfect storm:

A flat and sloppy Dallas team mixing with a motivated and fiery Broncos team
 

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McCarthy and his staff were as much to blame for not having the team prepared to play as the players were for taking Denver lightly like it was another bye week. This team was punch drunk in the first quarter. We were never in this game after the coin toss.
 

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Already heard that practice didn't go well last week but I didn't hear or see any of that before this game.

Most coaches base how their team is going to play based on how they practiced, how sharp they were with no drops and plenty of energy.

Their hope is that the team will "wake up" before the game but I wonder if McC and his staff thought they were still sleepwalking when the game started? Did they think they'd already won it?

McC has gone for it on 4th down before so that's not out of character but was he trying to instill something in his team by doing that yesterday? It wasn't about analytics as much as lethargy. Was he trying to build the fire? They didn't even have a smoldering one that needed fuel, they had no fire.

Watch that play again and the other 4th down attempt. Did you see any heightened level of enthusiasm or does that look like just another play?

Did McC and his staff get the feeling they were dealing with Parcells and Saban's worst nightmare, a team that believes it's press clippings? Parcells referred to it as "taking the cheese" and Saban's is "rat poison".

Failure is tough for any athlete but success playing for the Cowboys might be just as hard. Funny that Parcells waits for his 4th stop to use that "let's not get out the anointing oil just yet". They sell that stuff in the malls in North Texas.

The Dallas Cowboys are an anomaly in one regard, just being a Cowboy is something special and I flat do not get that. They've barely been relevant in two and half decades but the glow still remains.

I am undecided on McC and his staff at this point but this game Sunday will get me off that fence.

Another 4-4 team is coming into ATT with a win in the last game and looking to get up in the playoff hunt by spanking America's Team and this will be a most watched game so far in the season because the Cowboys got totally knocked off their feet and down for the count in the previous game.

Will they come up off that mat swinging or ready to be knocked out again? Can McC get their attention without risking a game by going for it? Will his players respond or continue to think they are just better?
It’s really becoming hilarious all of the attempts on 4th down. You’d think Jethro would shut it down.

Maybe this will give him the excuse to fire his butt and make Moore HC.

It’s becoming like Big Dumb Mikey is trolling Cowboys nation on every 4th down. Never seen anything like it.
 

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Did anyone expect this team to 16-1? Even the dominant teams of the 90's lost some head scratchers. They will bounce back next week.
 

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Can you link me to more about the bad practices? Want to know more about the details.

think it was in a tweet that quoted Lamb. I don't have twitter but it was posted in one of these threads.
 

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In the past few years after a game like this I would expect multiple games like that during a single season. I would expect a game like the one they played yesterday would send them on a downward spiral. But something about this year is different. I think they will bounce back in a big way next week. We will see Sunday. Atlanta is a team they should beat. They don't have a great offense, averaging 21 points per game and 350 yards, 80 yards per game rushing. Their defense is also pretty average. They give up 27 points a game. As we found out yesterday, stats don't always matter, but if the Cowboys come out fired up after the embarrassment they will win.
 

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McCarthy and his staff will continue to sense it until they do something about it. ATL could easily be our first consecutive loss.
 
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