Is Dak worth his contract?

Is Dak worth his contract?

  • YES

    Votes: 44 38.9%
  • NO

    Votes: 69 61.1%

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DandyDon52

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I can accept opinions will vary. But still I'd like to know realistically when we have any prayer of getting out of this nightmare.
they are stuck with him for 3 years including this season, so your looking at 2024 for any chance of getting another qb.
To get a top of draft qb, you have to have a 2-15 season the year before, and Jerry wont tank lol , every year is a SB year for him,
so very unlikely cowboys will be bad enough to get a top qb in the draft.

Basically this is how it is with the jones family owning the cowboys, and nothing changing there even if jerry hits the dirt.
 

TheMarathonContinues

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So leadership does matter? I/m getting a mixed message from you on this.

He gets credit for being a great leader by most. He's just a good leader iyo, though?

How does good or great leadership manifest itself?
You aren't getting a mixed message we just have different definitions of what a leader is. Yelling at players and being fake tough and rah rah to me isn't what a leader is. There's also different ways of leading. You are use to what you see in movies and the conditioned to think leaders have to raise their voice. Tony Dungy is one of the most soft spoken guys you'll ever talk to but he lead that Colts team to a Super Bowl. The loudest guy in the room isn't always the best leader or even a leader to begin with.

Another guy...Dirk Nowitzki....not a yeller but a damn good leader who lead by his play.
 

BoyzBlaster

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they are stuck with him for 3 years including this season, so your looking at 2024 for any chance of getting another qb.
To get a top of draft qb, you have to have a 2-15 season the year before, and Jerry wont tank lol , every year is a SB year for him,
so very unlikely cowboys will be bad enough to get a top qb in the draft.

Basically this is how it is with the jones family owning the cowboys, and nothing changing there even if jerry hits the dirt.
Thank you for addressing my actual question.
 

TheMarathonContinues

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Are you saying you're a fair weather fan that doesn't root during the bad times?

You best bud Rocky already admitted to being fair weather and an front runner, so I guess it's only right that you're also the same since he's your hero and all.
No I'm just saying you're a fool like the rest of us lol.

You can't point out "fools" and not acknowledge you've been one for 25+ years lol. You foolishly root for a Jerry Jones lead team year and out like the rest of us.
 

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Every time I see someone post his salary as if that means anything, all I think about is the fact their comments are based on envy.

The idea of this team had that money they would have spent it on other people and won the game. Which ignores the last 25 years of decision making by the Jones'. It also ignores the person making the 40 million dollar comment does not work in this league, therefore he isn't even a layman.

But it comes down to the same gripe made about people who make a lot of money in other careers. The have nots always blame the haves.

And that is about as small minded as someone can be.
Also they Love Wentz :laugh:
 

MountaineerCowboy

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No I'm just saying you're a fool like the rest of us lol.

You can't point out "fools" and not acknowledge you've been one for 25+ years lol. You foolishly root for a Jerry Jones lead team year and out like the rest of us.
Oh no,

There's a big difference in rooting for the actual team over just rooting for a single player.
 

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I think he's shown what he is at this point. He's shown us since 2016. If you didn't think he was good then then your opinion of him probably won't change.
I didn't think he was going to get beyond bus driver ability in his first three years, but he's grown quite a bit in many ways. The first three quarters of yesterday's game he wasn't very impressive, but the fourth quarter is more like what I've come to expect from him. Oddly enough, it happened when they went no huddle, as we had talked about wanting them to do last week.
 

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I'll have to be more blunt for you then.

The bum we have here is being paid to carry the team but he also has a tremendous supporting cast around him. Really the envy of the league.

Now imagine what a superior talent like Wentz could do in the same situation. Where he's not throwing to 4th and 5th WRs on this team.

And imagine the bum being sent to Indianapolis and being asked to throw to those weapons. They'd be drafting in the top 10. It would be a debacle.

More deflection, more blame. There's never enough talent around Wentz, the highest paid player on the team. Poor guy. Makes more money than anyone on the roster but the problem is everyone else. Got it.

By the way, neither Lamb nor Cooper have been appreciably better than Pittman this season. He's absolutely a starter on this team.

How tremendous was the supporting cast yesterday? I dare say Wentz has not started a game under center for the Colts this season with less "weapons" around him than Dak had yesterday.

Here's the difference: Dak can throw for 375/2/0 turnovers and lose, and simpletons like yourself will come here and say he's not doing enough. Carson can stand off to the side pooping his pants for 3 hours while Taylor runs for 185 and 4, and simpletons like yourself will praise him for doing such a masterful job pushing out the turd.
 

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You know he's a fraud when his supporters try to deflect blame to others.

When you sign that deal you become the man. You're being paid to carry the team. If you can't do that then you shouldn't be paid like you can.

I think any reasonable viewer can see Dak Prescott can't do that.
when have you ever been "reasonable" about Dak.
 

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Didn't Goff have Robert Woods and Kupp last year with the best defense in the league? Or was that different Goff.

And yes in 2021 Dak has played just as good as Wilson who has been hurt, Mahomes who leads the NFL in interceptions and Rodgers and his bum toe....are you high?
All these men have played in Championships, and won. Dak, not even close. Not all his fault, but he's got to show more than what he has this year. It seems he has trouble with reading coverages sometimes.
Just get the team to a conference championship game, then I'm okay with him. That's not too much to ask from a $40million QB.
Rodgers is past his prime, but I still think he's better than Dak.
If I had a strong team, but just needed a QB to get me to the SB, I may trade Prescott for Rodgers, or even for Wilson.
 

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Its a outdated *** opinion......the offensive line has sucked for most of this year. People can keep bringing up how great Martin is but he can't save a bad offensive line by himself.


What excuse did I give? And you thought the offensive line played adequate with all those penalties and with their run blocking? Oh wait.......


Amen!!!! The Smith comments are old too, he's ALWAYS HURT, costs us yardage in the red zone
 

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You aren't getting a mixed message we just have different definitions of what a leader is. Yelling at players and being fake tough and rah rah to me isn't what a leader is. There's also different ways of leading. You are use to what you see in movies and the conditioned to think leaders have to raise their voice. Tony Dungy is one of the most soft spoken guys you'll ever talk to but he lead that Colts team to a Super Bowl. The loudest guy in the room isn't always the best leader or even a leader to begin with.

Another guy...Dirk Nowitzki....not a yeller but a damn good leader who lead by his play.

You have no idea what my thoughts on leadership. or experience on both sides of the leadership coin are so don't pretend you do.

How do Dak's leadership skills manifest themselves?
In other words, what can you point to which is evidence of a well lead group?

Remember to respond from the context of the origin of this discussion. You have a habit of moving the posts a bit when cornered.
 

TheMarathonContinues

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Oh no,

There's a big difference in rooting for the actual team over just rooting for a single player.
But Dak plays for the Cowboys so you too are rooting for him lol...or are you doing this weird "I want the team to win but want Dak to suck" type of thing? Going to be tough to do guy.....
 

Hadenough

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You guys keep reminding us of that...but how much money was sitting at home on the couch this week? How much money SHOULD'VE been sitting on the couch this week?

Lawrence - 20 million
Amari - 20 million
La'El Collins - 15 million
Zeke - 15 million
Blake Jarwin - 5.5 million
Never mind the money wasted on Jaylon Smith....

And on another note.....La' El gets 15 million, Zack Martin gets 14 million...Tyron Smith gets 12 million.....that sure is a lot of money for a piss poor offensive line.
Tony Romo says welcome to his world.
 

MountaineerCowboy

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But Dak plays for the Cowboys so you too are rooting for him lol...or are you doing this weird "I want the team to win but want Dak to suck" type of thing? Going to be tough to do guy.....
The defensiveness from you is a major sign of weakness.

You were wrong. A few of ya'll Dallas Prescott fans are still holding on, but even your leader (Rocky) is hiding away.

Just come to terms with it. I promise once you accept Dak for what he is you won't be surprised by these collapse and bad games.
 

TheMarathonContinues

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You have no idea what my thoughts on leadership. or experience on both sides of the leadership coin are so don't pretend you do.

How do Dak's leadership skills manifest themselves?
In other words, what can you point to which is evidence of a well lead group?

Remember to respond from the context of the origin of this discussion. You have a habit of moving the posts a bit when cornered.
I don't I'm just basing my opinion on these generalizations you have on Dak's leadership. You replied to a post because I said he's not the fake rah rah type...that led me to believe you think being a leader is yelling....there's other ways to do it.

And I'm not moving goal posts. You consider moving goal posts when I say something you disagree with that you have nothing to come back on lol.

I don't know what you are looking for. You keep asking me questions on Dak's leadership without stating your stance on it and are getting upset when I'm assuming it. Are you insinuating he's not a good leader?

Tell you what....tell me this...what is a leader to you? Who's a leader on this team to you?
 

TheMarathonContinues

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The defensiveness from you is a major sign of weakness.

You were wrong. A few of ya'll Dallas Prescott fans are still holding on, but even your leader (Rocky) is hiding away.

Just come to terms with it. I promise once you accept Dak for what he is you won't be surprised by these collapse and bad games.

You can say all that you want...you're entitled to it. But the fact remains is you're a FOOL like the rest of us lol. So you can deflect and try to change the subject if you want to but Mountaineer? Welcome to the "FOOL" club lol. Its a bit packed in here but don't worry we don't bite lol.
 
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