Video: Colin: I don't think it's a slump for Dak

[KJJ]

When you really get down to it Mahomes has been a product of his environment as well. His OL has struggled and it’s resulted in him struggling. We saw what happened to him in the Super Bowl. This season he’s had a lot of turnovers. Our offensive struggles along with Dak’s began when Tyron missed his first game. We’ve been shuffling McGovern and Williams. We’re having to play Steele at LT where he’s struggled.

 

[Beastsfromthenfceast]

Dak needs to concentrate on getting first downs. Enough of the 1 yard swing passes when he needs 8 yards for a first. Too many 3 and outs which are killing drives. Needs to get the ball to Schultz beyond the first down marker. If he can't throw to one of our elite receivers for ten yards then he needs to find another profession.

 

[Aulac]

Slumps can last full seasons. Look at Peytons 4th year in the league, he had an outlier season but recovered. We’ve seen a lot more good than bad from Dak in his career, he does seem to go through more ebbs and flows than other QB’s but he’s also recovered everytime.

Lets see it play out.

Well the Rams kicked Goff to the curb after less than a season of a slump. They won 10 games and a playoff game, and still got traded. Our standard are too low.

 

[Homer]

he's pretty much spot on

and i like Dak. But he goes as the running game goes.

 

[Brooksey]

What a slump our offense is in #2 in the league…We’re a big game away from being #1 again. Our Defense needs to keep getting better, our offense just needs to get back to what they were doing.

Dak needs to get it out quickly and he’ll be fine

 

[BAT]

So Dak is being paid to be a 40 million dollar cheerleader? That's cool.........

No he gives that to you for free.

Your welcome.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

You really seem to get enjoyment out of hating on Dak. He's going to be our QB for a long time, so why even root for the team?

Almost every post I see from you a negative.

First of all, it's called criticizing and how you guys throw the hate word out there so easily has become an art form here.
Long time ehhh.....well if can't pick up his tier 3 game and carry this offense to success the day will come where he will be spending his time on the bench.
NO PLAYER and this includes Rayne is bigger than the STAR!

 

[SlammedZero]

Man, you guys are full-time! For a player who some of you seem to loathe so much, he sure does take up a lot of your headspace.

 

[817Gill]

Well the Rams kicked Goff to the curb after less than a season of a slump. They won 10 games and a playoff game, and still got traded. Our standard are too low.

The Rams haven’t won anything yet, we’re both 9-4

 

[BigD_95]

160 million.........most expensive Bus Driver in the history of the NFL!

maybe it isnt a slump and he was just playing hot because he is playing more like he normally does - 2 seasons ago he started hot than cooled off and was just kind of avg

 

[Bullflop]

Oh no...by all means...post what you want. But follow your own advice and let me post mine? I suggest you be less touchy about it. Chill.

So...we're talking about Dak being in a slump and you randomly remind us other QB's are in slumps too. For no real reason. Well okay.


Every time we talk about dak there's ALWAYS...I mean literally ALWAYS....."but the WR, but Zeke, but the Oline but other players." Like you have to say all that first before you can say anything about Dak.

I'm not insulting you or telling you what to post. Just noting the fact.

I never mentioned anything about any of the other QBs. What I did say was about the OL being a partial cause of the offensive problems to show that Dak wasn't solely responsible for what's happened. Far too many here are blaming Dak for our problems without taking other things, people and situations into consideration. Blaming a few like Dak, Zeke and the receivers isn't a fair way to assess blame. As you may know, the team loses as a team and not from the work of a few to be held to blame. The OL is certainly accountable, also.

If that's not a "real" reason for concern, I don't know what is. What I said was far from being random -- it was in response to people here blaming Dak and Zeke for the miscues of the entire offense. If that doesn't bother you, I surely don't know what would. My concern is for the welfare of the team as a whole, without blaming individuals for the miscues of many. I'm hoping you understand where I'm coming from. I think you misunderstood my intentions.

 

[CowboyFrog]

First of all, it's called criticizing and how you guys throw the hate word out there so easily has become an art form here.
Long time ehhh.....well if can't pick up his tier 3 game and carry this offense to success the day will come where he will be spending his time on the bench.
NO PLAYER and this includes Rayne is bigger than the STAR!

Thats funny several times this year I swear you joined in with opposing fans comming here and ripping the STAR...shouldn't you be with your friends from the Patriots forum right now? Or were you just kidding around then?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I never mentioned anything about any of the other QBs. What I did say was about the OL being a partial cause of the offensive problems to show that Dak wasn't solely responsible for what's happened. Far too many here are blaming Dak for our problems without taking other things, people and situations into consideration. Blaming a few like Dak, Zeke and the receivers isn't a fair way to assess blame. As you may know, the team loses as a team and not from the work of a few to be held to blame. The OL is certainly accountable, also.

If that's not a "real" reason for concern, I don't know what is. What I said was far from being random -- it was in response to people here blaming Dak and Zeke for the miscues of the entire offense. If that doesn't bother you, I surely don't know what would. My concern is for the welfare of the team as a whole, without blaming individuals for the miscues of many. I'm hoping you understand where I'm coming from. I think you misunderstood my intentions.

EXACTLY what I am saying. Now I grant you....there are a COUPLE people here who blame only Dak. They are trolls and you know it...not worth the time. Ridiculous notion and I am not entirely convinced they don't blame other factions too....just because they don't qualify every single Dak criticism.

But ANYtime ANYbody says ANYthing about Dak....why do we need to know their opinion and life history about every other player or team? WHY....can;t we just assess what Dak does without a complete NFL dissertation on every player and team?

If I say "dak missed Brown on the OT pass against Raiders"......there's a million replies about how other QB's miss. Then when I say Brady didn't miss against the Bills.....""they" say well you can't compare to Brady".

If you don't see it...well okay fine. I suppose we do only see what our agenda allows us to see. Including me.

Of course the whole team, really the offense, has been struggling. Why people feel the need to require 5 paragraphs of other peoples' fuqups FIRST...before we can get to Dak....I don't get. It's a sickness.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

You really seem to get enjoyment out of hating on Dak. He's going to be our QB for a long time, so why even root for the team?

Almost every post I see from you a negative.

He and mountaineer cowboy complemented Dak early on. Then when Dak and the offense started to not play so well they said so. They got blasted for flip floppers....I specifically remember mountaineer.

Like you have to toe your company line the whole season regardless of what transpires.

He may or may not be our QB "for a long time". Things can change pretty fast in pro sports...for many reasons. Ask Jaylon.

 

[Bullflop]

EXACTLY what I am saying. Now I grant you....there are a COUPLE people here who blame only Dak. They are trolls and you know it...not worth the time. Ridiculous notion and I am not entirely convinced they don't blame other factions too....just because they don't qualify every single Dak criticism.

But ANYtime ANYbody says ANYthing about Dak....why do we need to know their opinion and life history about every other player or team? WHY....can;t we just assess what Dak does without a complete NFL dissertation on every player and team?

If I say "dak missed Brown on the OT pass against Raiders"......there's a million replies about how other QB's miss. Then when I say Brady didn't miss against the Bills.....""they" say well you can't compare to Brady".

If you don't see it...well okay fine. I suppose we do only see what our agenda allows us to see. Including me.

Of course the whole team, really the offense, has been struggling. Why people feel the need to require 5 paragraphs of other peoples' fuqups FIRST...before we can get to Dak....I don't get. It's a sickness.

IMHO, there are many more than just a couple here who blame Dak for anything and almost everything that's wrong with this team. I see it on a daily basis but usually attempt to ignore it, since I realize it's done mainly out of frustration and their laziness to name the reasons why he falters. I've never been one to claim he's a top 5 or even top 10 QB, although there's plenty of those around to make up for it.

I'll freely admit that Dak relies upon his OL to play as well as possible for him to merit receiving lofty plaudits for his work. Nevertheless, I see him mostly as a better than average QB most of the time, even when there are occasional miscues from the OL. What we're seeing now, though is far more than the occasional number of miscues from an OL that is having more than its fair share of difficulties.

I think it's more of a mistake, rather than a "sickness," to find fault with everything he does, rather than to acknowledge the other failings of the team. Those who like him and his performances for the most part are willing to allow for his faults and lack of performing at a high level when his protection breaks down. Very few QBs are able to function capably when that's a prevalent situation. Not everyone is willing to tolerate a QB who might not be "elite."

 

[USArmyVet]

IMHO, there are many more than just a couple here who blame Dak for anything and almost everything that's wrong with this team. I see it on a daily basis but usually attempt to ignore it, since I realize it's done mainly out of frustration and their laziness to blame the reasons why he falters. I've never been one to claim he's a top 5 or even 10 QB, although there's plenty of those around to make up for it.

I'll freely admit that Dak relies upon his OL to play as well as possible for him to merit receiving lofty plaudits for his work. Nevertheless, I see him mostly as a better than average QB most of the time, even when there are occasional miscues from the OL. What we're seeing now, though is far more than the occasional number of miscues from an OL that is having far more than its fair share of difficulties.

I think it's more of a mistake, rather than a "sickness," to find fault with everything he does, rather than to acknowledge the other failings of the team. Those who like him and his performances for the most part are willing to allow for his faults and lack of performing at a high level when his protection breaks down. Very few QBs are able to function capably when that's a prevalent situation. Not everyone is willing to tolerate a QB who might not be "elite."

Just like there are several that excuse anything negative Dak does.

 

[Bullflop]

Just like there are several that excuse anything negative Dak does.

Granted, it works both ways. Either extreme is a departure from the truth, imho.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

IMHO, there are many more than just a couple here who blame Dak for anything and almost everything that's wrong with this team. I see it on a daily basis but usually attempt to ignore it, since I realize it's done mainly out of frustration and their laziness to name the reasons why he falters. I've never been one to claim he's a top 5 or even top 10 QB, although there's plenty of those around to make up for it.

I'll freely admit that Dak relies upon his OL to play as well as possible for him to merit receiving lofty plaudits for his work. Nevertheless, I see him mostly as a better than average QB most of the time, even when there are occasional miscues from the OL. What we're seeing now, though is far more than the occasional number of miscues from an OL that is having more than its fair share of difficulties.

I think it's more of a mistake, rather than a "sickness," to find fault with everything he does, rather than to acknowledge the other failings of the team. Those who like him and his performances for the most part are willing to allow for his faults and lack of performing at a high level when his protection breaks down. Very few QBs are able to function capably when that's a prevalent situation. Not everyone is willing to tolerate a QB who might not be "elite."

Again...you STILL ignore the problem.

People DEMAND you find fault with others first, before Dak.

We'll just have to end this here and move on.

 

[Bullflop]

Again...you STILL ignore the problem.

People DEMAND you find fault with others first, before Dak.

We'll just have to end this here and move on.

Do you have any idea how crazy that sounds?

I've done that already, yet you're still not satisfied.

Exactly who are these people you speak of and . . .

what gives them the authority to demand anything?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

IMHO, there are many more than just a couple here who blame Dak for anything and almost everything that's wrong with this team. I see it on a daily basis but usually attempt to ignore it, since I realize it's done mainly out of frustration and their laziness to name the reasons why he falters. I've never been one to claim he's a top 5 or even top 10 QB, although there's plenty of those around to make up for it.

I'll freely admit that Dak relies upon his OL to play as well as possible for him to merit receiving lofty plaudits for his work. Nevertheless, I see him mostly as a better than average QB most of the time, even when there are occasional miscues from the OL. What we're seeing now, though is far more than the occasional number of miscues from an OL that is having more than its fair share of difficulties.

I think it's more of a mistake, rather than a "sickness," to find fault with everything he does, rather than to acknowledge the other failings of the team. Those who like him and his performances for the most part are willing to allow for his faults and lack of performing at a high level when his protection breaks down. Very few QBs are able to function capably when that's a prevalent situation. Not everyone is willing to tolerate a QB who might not be "elite."

No...you don't know. You are making the assumption that just because they don;t beech about other things...it's just dak.

If I am in a conversation about Dak Prescott...I am going to try to keep it Dak Prescott. I am not gonna go through the list of faults of every other player, unit, team and entire NFL first.
And if you have an issue with that...we should open a discussion about it. Instead of going directly to assumptions and accusations.

As far as "tolerate a QB that's not elite"...I don;t think that is true either. If he is billed and paid as one, and he doesn't consistently perform as one, they might take issue.

Me personally? I don;t take issue with who is elite or who gets paid what. I just want to watch competent, competitive and mostly adept football players and team. If i see it GREAT! Parsons and most of our defense. If I don;t see....most of our offense....I will say it too. It's my opinion that our whole offense from Kellen to Center is really struggling. Again, if I want to talk about Dak...I'm not necessarily gonna preface it with every single other problem just to satisfy the quick HATE accusers.