The Detroit Lions, Goff, did what Dak Prescott couldn't do

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Goff out dueled Dak in a playoff game a few years ago. He may not be good but he's better than Dak.
no he didnt.
Dak threw for 20-32 266 and had 2 TDs...a pass to amari and a run.

goff threw for 15-28 for 186...0 TDs.

we lost that game due to our inablity to stop the rams running game.

head to head...Dak outplayed goff in that game.
 

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When I see D-linemen in the backfield upon the handoff...it doesn't LOOK "the best" to me.

When I see two good RB's get 2-3 yards up the middle.....it doesn't LOOK "the best"....to me.

I See other O-linemen routinely make holes for RBs. And protect the QB better and longer.

Wherever you get this rating from.....is bs.

Thats b/c you don't look at other teams. The grade is an average. Tyron, Zach, and La El are among the best at their positions. The hole in the OL is Biadez. He is no where near Freddie and we need to address that spot in the off season. You also have to consider that La El missed 5-6 games and Tyron missed parts of 3 games. The drop off from those guys to Steele is enormous. You also need to consider that Zeke has had a knee injury since the Panther game and isn't running like he is being paid to run. You can't blame is poor performances on the OL. Pollard on the other hand is killing it when he gets a chance.
 

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If you say so.

I do believe EVERYTHING I read on the internet. Including accurate exams on a sports message board. o_O :facepalm:
No idea what you're talking about....a little hair of the dog might help. Go back and read response, I'd like to get your take....I added to it after you responded
 

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no he didnt.
Dak threw for 20-32 266 and had 2 TDs...a pass to amari and a run.

goff threw for 15-28 for 186...0 TDs.

we lost that game due to our inablity to stop the rams running game.

head to head...Dak outplayed goff in that game.

Goff managed that game perfectly. Dak got a lot garbage time stats which keeps fooling a lot of fans who didn't watch the game. He sucked when the game was still in question.
 

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Goff managed that game perfectly. Dak got a lot garbage time stats which keeps fooling a lot of fans who didn't watch the game. He sucked when the game was still in question.
bull.
he kept us in the game.
rams gutted us on the ground for a bazillion yds.
we couldnt stop it.
 

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Thats b/c you don't look at other teams. The grade is an average. Tyron, Zach, and La El are among the best at their positions. The hole in the OL is Biadez. He is no where near Freddie and we need to address that spot in the off season. You also have to consider that La El missed 5-6 games and Tyron missed parts of 3 games. The drop off from those guys to Steele is enormous. You also need to consider that Zeke has had a knee injury since the Panther game and isn't running like he is being paid to run. You can't blame is poor performances on the OL. Pollard on the other hand is killing it when he gets a chance.
Pollard runs different plays than zeke. When we ask tony to run up the middle the results are about the same.

Tony, the change of pace.....gets plays called more in the open field or in movement...as his skills would expect.

You're the expert...go ahead and check..tony up the middle zeke up the middle. Same results and NOT a "best O-line".

So you claim we are...the best...then say how many games our starters miss and it's "a big drop off".

Sorry man....it's not making sense to me.....I just don't by it...ESPECIALLY....given what you just said here.
 

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Pollard runs different plays than zeke. When we ask tony to run up the middle the results are about the same.

Tony, the change of pace.....gets plays called more in the open field or in movement...as his skills would expect.

You're the expert...go ahead and check..tony up the middle zeke up the middle. Same results and NOT a "best O-line".

So you claim we are...the best...then say how many games our starters miss and it's "a big drop off".

Sorry man....it's not making sense to me.....I just don't by it...ESPECIALLY....given what you just said here.

It is the best OL in football even with Biadez in the middle. Sorry you can't see past your own opinion and look at the stats........ and keep ignoring Zeke's injury.
 

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bingo no run game no pass protection and 5 penalties. Right all dak..goff did squat that OL and run game ran all over AZ its why i thought we would.

There's no denying that Dak can struggle some at times, however what doesn't help out any QB or offense that's struggling in a particular game, is for the OL to kill drives with penalties when the QB and offense does manage to get a promising looking drive going.

Also when is the last time the OL put together a strong string of games, where they have successfully run blocked and dominated the line of scrimmage to allow Zeke and Pollard to do some damage on the ground?
 

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No idea what you're talking about....a little hair of the dog might help. Go back and read response, I'd like to get your take....I added to it after you responded
Nope...I'm good. You think you can judge people's "existence" based on a couple comments on a sports message board.

Hair of the dog back at ya.
 

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It is the best OL in football even with Biadez in the middle. Sorry you can't see past your own opinion and look at the stats........ and keep ignoring Zeke's injury.
No need to apologize.

There are lies, dang lies, and then there are stats.
 

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bull.
he kept us in the game.
rams gutted us on the ground for a bazillion yds.
we couldnt stop it.

Dak gave us no chance to win that game. He puts up 7 points in the first half and couldn't keep the offense on the field. Kinda like yesterday.
 

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Nope...I'm good. You think you can judge people's "existence" based on a couple comments on a sports message board.

Hair of the dog back at ya.
Already had mine....I judge based on what they post....my psychology classes are paying off. I stick with my comment, pretty sad to put that much hate into a team, player, coach or owner...kinda feel bad for some of them...but, I digress....that's my opinion...if it makes them happy and helps them feel better, then more power to them.
 

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It is the best OL in football even with Biadez in the middle. Sorry you can't see past your own opinion and look at the stats........ and keep ignoring Zeke's injury.
you are insane the OL has been horrible of late absolutely can't run block pass block and way too many drives killing penalty's..you stuck in 2014-2016?

we may not be top 10 line anymore, Its out of sync and its not a good look. Its the biggest reason our offense is inconsistent, period.
 

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Dak gave us no chance to win that game. He puts up 7 points in the first half and couldn't keep the offense on the field. Kinda like yesterday.
he scored with 2:00 and change to cut the rams lead to 8.
if we make a stop and get the ball back...we had the momentum.
we out scored the rams in the 2nd half...15-10.
it was the rams running game that killed us that day.
cj anderson in particular.
 

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Typically thats a fair point, and I will admit the Cowboys defense didnt play to their ability. I will say however its really tough to play defense when your are constantly 3 and out on offense. Felt like the Cowboys defense was constantly on the field, im not sure the Cowboys offense even got a first down in the 3rd quarter? I'm sure they were gassed by the 4th.

The Cowboys only had a chance in this game because the defense came on late and sparked some momentum.
what was the excuse for the defense not getting off the field for 8.5 minutes in the first half? tiredness? what was the excuse in the last 4 minutes knowing they are going to rush the ball and stay in bounds to run the clock, yet you couldn't stop them...

enough excuses for an over rated defense. this defense has lived/died by the turnover. against AZ they couldn't get a turnover and they dies. their turnovers have come mostly against garbage QBs.....this defense is over rated...but with that said, they are an improvement over what we had in 2020.
 

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Another Dak hate thread, don't you guys ever get tired of this same old crap! Makes you feel tough? LOL.....sad existence.
Dak lives in their head rent free. they are so obsessed with their hatred they can't see the rest of the team sucking so bad. what will they do when Dak is gone? kind of like Romo haters.....they were all lost for a while not knowing who to hate
 

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he scored with 2:00 and change to cut the rams lead to 8.
if we make a stop and get the ball back...we had the momentum.
we out scored the rams in the 2nd half...15-10.
it was the rams running game that killed us that day.
cj anderson in particular.

Again, playing against a Ram defense trying to keep everything in bounds. The game was lost in a 23-7 3rd quarter hole. Dak's TD with 2 minutes remaining against a prevent defense is nothing to brag about let alone make a claim he gave us a chance to win.
 
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