Clarence Hill: Look for the Cowboys to draft a WR in the 1st or 2nd round

[baltcowboy]

They tried to draft Trai Turner back in 2014.

He is only 28 and played for 3M last season.

5x Pro Bowl
2x All Pro

Good call. The team will not put themselves in position to have to reach for a guard in the first round. The Cowboys will be ok.

 

[Stash]

 

[Stash]

Been saying this for weeks, but yet many dispute they aren't taking another high receiver.

It's more wishful thinking that the Cowboys don't again do something incredibly stupid.

 

[Stash]

I think I’m going to be sick if they take another WR in the 1st round…

2nd round at the earliest.

I get the position is becoming super expensive and the savings you net of drafting them early but we already have a 1st rounder and a 10+ mil dollar WR in MG. Protect the QB and you don’t need 3 stud WRs.

Also notice that the position is becoming 'super expensive' for the league's perpetually stupid teams, not the good ones. The ones in the playoffs, Championship Games, and Super Bowls are trading away from those super expensive receivers. Because they know it's the most abundant position in the draft EVERY YEAR.

Neither Davante Adams nor Tyreek Hill were even drafted in the 1st round in the first place!

But both were traded away for not only multiple picks that included 1st rounders, but their former teams realized enormous cap savings by doing so.

When you're paying huge money to your quarterback - as both those teams are - cap economics don't allow you to pay huge money to his receivers as well. For the money invested, the quarterback is expected to raise up the level of the receivers they do have.

 

[Stash]

Who do you think the swing tackle will be? I think Billy Turner is the guard/center.

The Billy Turner that signed with Denver?

 

[xwalker]

I reviewed Trai Turner in the Steelers/KC playoff game.

He looked solid with many snaps against DT Chris Jones.

He played all 17 games plus the playoff games last season.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I dont see them going WR in the 1st to be honest. I dont think the value will be there. I think the top 3 will be gone. 2nd I can definitely see a guy like Moore or Pickens

 

[Sydla]

Been saying this for weeks, but yet many dispute they aren't taking another high receiver.

I don't think people "dispute" they could take a WR.

What many have said is that it would be kind of idiotic to use a 1st round pick on a WR. This team literally does not have a competent starting LG. They have a below average OC. They still are middling at DT. They have a real hole at starting RDE.

But yeah, using your third first round pick in four years on a WR is a smart way to build your team.

 

[Sydla]

Well I'm shocked. Then again no position, not even Guard is a must in the first two rounds.
Plenty of CAP money to fill gaps left after the draft.

With JAGs.

With guys who likely aren't much better than Williams, who you just let walk because he wasn't good enough.

 

[darthseinfeld]

With JAGs.

With guys who likely aren't much better than Williams, who you just let walk because he wasn't good enough.

And you could use that money to fill the WR hole too. You can get 2019 Randall Cobb production from Emmanuel Sanders for about the same price

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

I dont see them going WR in the 1st to be honest. I dont think the value will be there. I think the top 3 will be gone. 2nd I can definitely see a guy like Moore or Pickens

I'm not sure those guys are still around at #56. Think we might be looking at a guy like Metchie or Tolbert in that spot.

 

[darthseinfeld]

If you want a WR, I honestly think the best value you can get could be Metchie deep in the 3rd

 

[darthseinfeld]

I'm not sure those guys are still around at #56. Think we might be looking at a guy like Metchie or Tolbert in that spot.

Shhhhh I want Metchie to fall to the 3rd lol

 

[Sydla]

You gotta love the Cowboys and the Jones.

They didn't want to give DeMarco Murray a ton of guaranteed money or a lot of years because their "research" and data showed teams don't get back the investment put into the position given the drop off at the position due to injuries/wear and tear and usage. A year later they use the 4th pick in the draft on a TB and then a few years later hand him the largest contract for a RB in NFL history (and no one has really come close to beating).

A few years ago after they cut Bryant, Stephen claimed that they believed a WR rotation of decent players could be very effective as opposed to jpouring a lot of resources into one dominant type WR. 6 months after that gem, they traded a first round pick for Cooper. And if they take a WR in the first round this year, that would be three first round picks on WRs in four years, as I noted above.

They don't have any clear plan. They just shoot from the hip.

 

[baltcowboy]

The Billy Turner that signed with Denver?

Denver beat us again

 

[CouchCoach]

Depends on where they have the WR's on the main board, not the positional one.

McClay has the challenge of placing Treylon Burks on the board with his two bosses having watched him play in person for two years.

There are 6 potential 1st round WR's in this draft with Wilson, Williams, Olave, Burks, Dotson and London with Moore, Pickens and Watson on the cusp.

Booger made his comment that it is OL unless a Lamb falls and my question is at 24, if they stay there, is one of those WR's a better option than an OG since they let two walk?

It is not what I want, they are too light in the trenches but history says Booger likes WRs in the 1st. Galloway, Williams, Bryant, Cooper and Lamb = 7 1sts to 3 for Smith, Martin and Yosemite.

The question I have is how does the measure of fall off from the 1st to the 2nd rounds with WR's vs OG's compare?

I also do not put anything in the fact Gallup was a 2nd rounder, he is also still a #2WR.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

If you’re bringing in another WR that high than why sign Gallup?

Because Cowboys.

 

[morasp]

I wonder what their draft board looks like. Here is where our picks line up with the top 10 WRs in bold on NFL.com with IOL and Edge also inserted. Wilson, Burks, Williams, and Olave would be value picks at 24. London and Dotson would be value picks at 56. Anything else would be a reach.

2 Hutchinson edge
5 Thibodeaux edge
7 Tyler Linderbaum OC
10 Wilson
11 Burks
13 Jermaine Johnson edge
14 WIlliams
16 Olave
17 Green OL
20 Karlaftis edge

Pick 24

26 Ojabo edge
34 Mafe edge
37 London
38 Zion Johnson OG
39 Ebiketie edge
40 Dotson
41 Bonitto edge
45 Paschal edge
47 Sam WIlliams edge
50 Dominique Robinson edge
51 Cole Strange IOL
52 Logan Hall edge

Pick 56

64 Tolbert
71 Pickens
81 Watson
92 Moore

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Folks don’t like it (and I get it), but the Cowboys have nothing behind Lamb in terms of talent.

Banking on Gallup’s health was a predictably dumb move by the Cowboys FO. Washington is an experienced receiver, but that doesn’t mean he’s a viable #2.

After that, you have the likes of Fehoko, Brown, and a handful of nobodies.

I sincerely hope they don’t take Burks at #24.

The sweet spot in the draft for a receiver will be the 2nd/3rd rounds IMO.

 

[cnuball21]

Also notice that the position is becoming 'super expensive' for the league's perpetually stupid teams, not the good ones. The ones in the playoffs, Championship Games, and Super Bowls are trading away from those super expensive receivers. Because they know it's the most abundant position in the draft EVERY YEAR.

Neither Davante Adams nor Tyreek Hill were even drafted in the 1st round in the first place!

But both were traded away for not only multiple picks that included 1st rounders, but their former teams realized enormous cap savings by doing so.

When you're paying huge money to your quarterback - as both those teams are - cap economics don't allow you to pay huge money to his receivers as well. For the money invested, the quarterback is expected to raise up the level of the receivers they do have.

Good post…most don’t understand this as it relates to positional value in the draft.

This is the only reason I understand drafting another WR just really hope it isn’t in the 1st.