CFZ The main reason Cooper’s trade value plummeted

[CowboysFaninHouston]

We have all watched with amazement the last two days as numerous NFL teams make big trades involving WRs requiring premium round draft picks. Many Cowboys fans are asking, “Why couldn’t we get more than a 5th for Amari Cooper?”

Two reasons:

1. The big thing that happened lowering Cooper’s trade value was Stephen “Giggles” Jones opening his big mouth on the radio and in print and talking publicly about how hard it was going to be to keep Amari at $20 mil a season. He might as well have plastered that on billboards in every NFL city. “The Cowboys are parting ways with Cooper”, thus making it easy to hard bargain the Cowboys in a trade.Stupid, stupid, stupid.
2. The smaller reason was Coop’s decline the last two years. He has only averaged about12 yds per catch the last two seasons, and last year only avg 57.7 yds per game. Not big time receiver stats.

The first reason was completely avoidable. Front office 101- never talk publicly to telegraph what you are going to do with a player. SJ is the laziest executive in the NFL.

Fellow Cowboys fans- if you don’t know it by now it’s obvious. The Jones FO is arrogant and stupid. A terrible FO combination. They talk constantly about things smart NFL FOs shut up about. Look at JJ last night flashing a copy of their draft board. It’s unparalleled stupidity and arrogance. Jerry has to “prove” to the NFL world he’s smarter than they are. And it’s so obvious he’s not.

In case you didn’t already know it- the emperor and his giggling son are naked.

the FO is incompetent......end of story.

 

[CouchCoach]

I’ve believed for years that experience is often overrated. It can be good. But as we see with Giggles…it doesn’t always mean it’s good.

Experience is often misapplied. Some equate experience to the passage of time. You do something long enough, you get good at it. I have seen some use that reasoning regarding the son. It is just not true in any business.

Experience is the process of making mistakes so that one will not make the same ones. Experience is that alarm that goes off in one's head when they've been here before and that didn't go well.

When it comes to the actual football part of it, you have an idiot teaching an imbecile and they each get their own radio show. How special is that?

However, neither of them has ever had to pay for making a mistake so why would you expect them to gain experience from that? Screw it totally up and make the same amount of exposure and money. There is simply not another business like it.

 

[Haimerej]

It’s ok for them to have decided Coop was not in their plans. Just don’t talk about it.

I don't see how saying it publicly is any different than reaching out to trade him privately. If they're putting him on the trade block, teams know they want to get rid of him.

 

[Carson]

Giggles, Chuckles, Booger. Ahhh to be back in middle school again lol

 

[Gorgon]

Very interesting article on how nepotism destroys organizational health.
https://blog.vantagecircle.com/nepotism-in-the-workplace/

But not an organization's wealth. Cowboys still #1 sports franchise in the world.

 

[Bobhaze]

I don't see how saying it publicly is any different than reaching out to trade him privately. If they're putting him on the trade block, teams know they want to get rid of him.

In my view, if you make it seem you are “exploring trade options” for a guy you may keep is so much better for trade value than saying publicly, “It’s going to be hard to keep Amari Cooper next year”.

And as I said earlier, Coop’s value has dropped. But making it clear you didn’t have him in your future plans made for an easier negotiating position for any trade partners.

 

[Bobhaze]

But not an organization's wealth. Cowboys still #1 sports franchise in the world.

Not good if winning championships is your first goal. Besides the NFL is almost a completely risk free way to rake it in.

 

[Haimerej]

In my view, if you make it seem you are “exploring trade options” for a guy you may keep is so much better for trade value than saying publicly, “It’s going to be hard to keep Amari Cooper next year”.

And as I said earlier, Coop’s value has dropped. But making it clear you didn’t have him in your future plans made for an easier negotiating position for any trade partners.

At the same time, Jerry has to accept the terms. I wonder how many offers they had.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Two reasons:

1. The big thing that happened lowering Cooper’s trade value was Stephen “Giggles” Jones opening his big mouth on the radio and in print and talking publicly about how hard it was going to be to keep Amari at $20 mil a season. He might as well have plastered that on billboards in every NFL city. “The Cowboys are parting ways with Cooper”, thus making it easy to hard bargain the Cowboys in a trade.Stupid, stupid, stupid.
2. The smaller reason was Coop’s decline the last two years. He has only averaged about12 yds per catch the last two seasons, and last year only avg 57.7 yds per game. Not big time receiver stats.

The first reason was completely avoidable. Front office 101- never talk publicly to telegraph what you are going to do with a player. SJ is the laziest executive in the NFL.

This and FO inability to see the WR market was about to explode. Remember they had the March 21st ( 5 days after the new league year) out there.......either restructure, release or pay his $20M salary for 2022. Looking back, they probably should have restructured and kept any decision to trade him before the draft under their belt. Releasing was never an option coz they know he and the Commanders would pound that the same day. But no question we likely could have gotten a min 2nd, maybe 1st round pick.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

We have all watched with amazement the last two days as numerous NFL teams make big trades involving WRs requiring premium round draft picks. Many Cowboys fans are asking, “Why couldn’t we get more than a 5th for Amari Cooper?”

Two reasons:

1. The big thing that happened lowering Cooper’s trade value was Stephen “Giggles” Jones opening his big mouth on the radio and in print and talking publicly about how hard it was going to be to keep Amari at $20 mil a season. He might as well have plastered that on billboards in every NFL city. “The Cowboys are parting ways with Cooper”, thus making it easy to hard bargain the Cowboys in a trade.Stupid, stupid, stupid.
2. The smaller reason was Coop’s decline the last two years. He has only averaged about12 yds per catch the last two seasons, and last year only avg 57.7 yds per game. Not big time receiver stats.

The first reason was completely avoidable. Front office 101- never talk publicly to telegraph what you are going to do with a player. SJ is the laziest executive in the NFL.

Fellow Cowboys fans- if you don’t know it by now it’s obvious. The Jones FO is arrogant and stupid. A terrible FO combination. They talk constantly about things smart NFL FOs shut up about. Look at JJ last night flashing a copy of their draft board. It’s unparalleled stupidity and arrogance. Jerry has to “prove” to the NFL world he’s smarter than they are. And it’s so obvious he’s not.

In case you didn’t already know it- the emperor and his giggling son are naked.

Great post Bob “PurpleHaze” and right on point.

 

[kevm3]

Very interesting article on how nepotism destroys organizational health.
https://blog.vantagecircle.com/nepotism-in-the-workplace/

The problem is that this organization is essentially run by 'rich kids'. In other words, when they screw up, there is no real repercussions. They aren't losing their job and still raking in tons of dough, and when they screw up, fans are still buying tons of merchandise and paying for those tickets.

There is no pressure to succeed or to avoid failure. If they fail, nobody can fire them and they are still being rewarded with a ton of money. I'm sure they are surrounded with people that kiss up to them and reaffirm their decisions, or otherwise they would be fired, so they never get a real feedback loop of what decisions are bad and which are good, so they keep making the same mistakes OVER and OVER. The 2nd round pick is perfect example of that. How many second rounders have we wasted because of off the field issues or injury histories and yet we do the same thing AGAIN. Doesn't seem anybody is or can tell Jerry to stop with these gambles.

Even our process for head coach wasn't done based on rigorous analysis. It was based on a sleepover or something, which tells me they had McCarthy in mind ahead of time and didn't even really care to do any analysis. They liked him and they were sticking to that no matter what.

25 years of failure tells me all I need to know and it won't get better any time soon because of 'the rich kid syndrome' where the kid can crash 50 cars and their parents buy them another one and they do it again. It won't be until they do something and get jail time that they potentially 'wake up'. Unfortunately, I don't see anything on the horizon to wake the Jones boys up because they are able to string together an occasional decent season, while generally floating around .500 territory and fans keep rewarding them with money.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

I don’t care how stats were down he’s a very good player. Maybe not great. He’ll produce for Cleveland,

 

[Carson]

I don’t care how stats were down he’s a very good player. Maybe not great. He’ll produce for Cleveland,

He should and I am pulling for him.

I just feel come December, in Cleveland, snow on the ground and he will check out. Cooper seems to disappear in the cold

 

[Bobhaze]

I don’t care how stats were down he’s a very good player. Maybe not great. He’ll produce for Cleveland,

Coop’s still a good player. He’s just not elite. Cleveland restructured his contract so it was clear even to them he wasn’t worth being paid at the same level.

 

[OmerV]

I don't see how saying it publicly is any different than reaching out to trade him privately. If they're putting him on the trade block, teams know they want to get rid of him.

I agree. The difficulty with the contract was no secret to anyone, and once you make phone calls everyone knows.

 

[Haimerej]

I agree. The difficulty with the contract was no secret to anyone, and once you make phone calls everyone knows.

Pretty sure there were fans around here talking about our cap problem prior to the season ending. If some of us knew, I doubt it was a surprise to teams around the league.

 

[HungryLion]

A competent FO probably gets at least a 3rd for Cooper.

shame we don’t have a competent FO

 

[kevm3]

I don't see how saying it publicly is any different than reaching out to trade him privately. If they're putting him on the trade block, teams know they want to get rid of him.

The problem is that it was known that the cowboys were going to possibly CUT him, making it so that teams have no incentive to hurry up and try to nab him because they could potentially get him without having to give up many draft picks or any playeres.

 

[OmerV]

Pretty sure there were fans around here talking about our cap problem prior to the season ending. If some of us knew, I doubt it was a surprise to teams around the league.

Fans were talking about it as soon as Cooper signed the big contract. We all knew Gallup’s contract was going to be up, and that a few years later Lamb would be up as well. I think some thought it might be Gallup that would be lost, but everyone knew we couldn’t keep all 3 and Lamb was the only one that would be safe.

 

[montgod]

Experience is a great teacher, if you pay attention.

Exactly. Although, they are paying attention, but to only one part of it and that's the profit margin