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I think his nasty nature was what they coveted and the fact he might be able to swing to tackle in a pinch or if he really develops.

That left side of the line is gonna be nasty
Reminded me of watching Erik Williams literally pound on people and I like that a lot.

I know zip about the college game, so I havent a clue if this is a good pick.
 

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Best player available (BPA) and need are synergistic and compensatory. If you already have your franchise QB, do you pick the best QB who also may be one of the BPAs in the draft if he falls in your lap? No. You trade the pick for something or you pick the player you need who is also the BPA. You always have to look for what you’re compensating for. The point has always been to not REACH for need over BPA, and everything within that is a gray area.
Well said.
 

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Like any draft, none of us know whether or not any of these players will be as good as advertised. I think Tyler Smith CAN be an excellent player. But he is raw and unpolished and will not likely be an instant plug and play star like Tyron Smith, Zack Martin or Travis Frederick.

Young Smith will play immediately of course. And he does have a lot of potential upside. Like Coach said earlier, it is just plain amazing that this nearly 80 yr old billionaire playing fantasy football GM has to insult our fans with his schtick every year. He craves making everyone think he’s outsmarting everyone.

Why cant it be said that Jerry is just the total optimist? He is enjoying the process? He loves the draft, hes excited about new players and he shares that excitement. It is amazing to me how so many of you think an 80 year old rich guy goes out of his way to try and make you think anything. He lives in his own bubble. Does what he wants, says what he wants, live hoe he wants and doesnt need 1 bit of approval from us fans.
 

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I don't believe him most of the time when he talks. He's a master snake oil salesman and he's just trying to get fans excited for another inevitably disappointing season.
I don't listen to him anymore.
 

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Facts dont align with butthurt fans feelings LOL i agree they didn't have plan and when it was OL and most of who were on their board were gone and the knew that smith would be gone before they pick again in the 2nd they reshuffled and chose Smith and then made decision to pick Sam a round early..i think no splash moves is fine i see talent in smith, sam, and jalen..needs yes but this isn't a taco situation. I doubt Johnson will be so good that we will regret it the rest of our lives..who knows time will tell but they filled need but not with horrible reaches like Taco but with highly talented players who might be being underestimated right now.

Poor coach lives in a world full of conspiracies and feelings that the jones wake up and go to sleep and yes shower LOL thinking of lying to fans..

its not the case they run their team without fans in mind as it should be, jeez all these feelings of being spurned. So ridiculous.

their responses with the after pick interviews with the draft sheets are IN response to media and fans not believing them and in now way was it a coverup to make fans feel better..SMH HARD my neck hurt's, please stop

What's funny is, in hindsight, the Cowboys did what they usually do. They did a good job of misleading a lot of us into thinking they might not. I don't have a problem with the players they picked. Whether I would have done it differently or not is meaningless. I'm interested in seeing how these guys do, and as a fan, I have to hope for the best. Whining like a little beech is a bad look for me. I'm really not as furious as some here are. I like the players.
 

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Lucky we moved down two spots and got 3rd rounder to add with parsons'..i say they had them, 1a 1b and 1c, not luck he was in their plans the rnore time. Much diffident at 24 in every round where most of your board is all gone by the time you pick and you have to make choice..

to question what you truly do not know ie how they had these guys ranked is whats wrong with fans you are NOT A Coach, you are NOT a gm so don't change your name to GMGM so give it a break, I realize on some boards JJ was better choice but BPA takes into account need over a slightly better talent if they had an 88 on JJ and a 89 on Smith they decided the OL was larger need and the fact they got Sam in the 2nd i say it was a solid choice and cant truly be judged until they all play. so unless you have definitive proof like real insider who stole the laptop, ipad, phone and all whiteboards from the star , just give this conspiracy they dont have a plan or strategy draft day a rest,. You do NOT KNOW!!

you are making opinionated based judgements on whom they passed on, that not proof.


opinionated with a huge axe to grind.
 

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I cant believe that SOB has the nerve to show me he had bacon and eggs for breakfast. I mean cmon.... we all know from his past that he doesnt even like bacon and eggs. Im just livid at his BS. ....... smh. Cmon Coach. So each day do you sit down, have some coffee, read some article and underline the parts that might give you some fodder for another Bit.. about Jerry post? I like you, we go back many years now to the old site. You come here and post daily. You are thoughtful and you add much to the site.... but damn, do you actually enjoy anything about this team anymore? Serious question. Did you enjoy anything about last year? When you see Jerry's face does your body start to twitch? Im being serious. Your hate for him is so strong that I dont understand how you can watch this team, read articles, oro otherwise have anything to do with the team at all, because it is impossible to separate the team from its' owner.

You might want to see a counselor.... its a joke.. dont slam me again for insulting you.
Actually I did separate the owner from the team some years back in order to remain a fan. The only exposure I have to him is on this forum. And I do not have a problem with him being the owner or GM, he owns it, he can run it.

I dislike him intensely as a person, not the GM. And I do not see his face much so that doesn't affect me other than probably giving me nightmares as it does young children about the Babadook. And I do get a little chill up the old spine when he's all pissed off in a loss because he's embarrassed in public.

My only problem with him and the Cowboys is him making that ugly face the face of the team that was mine before it was his. I was a fan when he was trying to buy another team.

But Reid, I am consistent and will take the shots when I see them because I flat out just do not like this person and that goes back well before he owned this team.
 
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Yeah but this is (checking my notes)….an opinion forum.
some are over the top, very wild exaggerations with conspiracy theory's tied to them and very premature, premature is what this place is known for..there are pills for that..:lmao2:

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Jermaine Johnson was BPA by a mile AND a Need.
But was the need for a DE a greater need? They at least brough Fowler in, they did nothing at OG.

And I do not fault them for creating that need, Williams had to go. They benched him because of the penalties, brought him back and he was just as bad. Now, they have a rookie who already has that rep and hasn't played a snap.
 

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Bingo, I didn’t watch the draft but watching Peppa Pig with my youngest daughter but when she left the room to go downstairs, I flipped to ESPN to watch the ticker at the bottom and saw the OL that was supposed to be around for our pick going like 17th and before and I was like no one saw that coming.
My daughter outgrew that show.

I didn't. Love it.
 

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more of dramatical queen type opinionated judgment ie we call it a wild overreaction where i come from..but proceed the all great and knowing coach/gm/and moderator..
Thank you, I need to ask Reality if it's too late to change my moniker. And where do you come form, can check that off my bucket list.

BTW, just in case you don't know, there is 0 connection between my posting and being a moderator. Some seem to think being a cop means I can't have donuts any longer. Being a moderator carries absolutely no weight in my opinions or posts. I have actually had posters tell me I should be a better poster because I am a moderator. I try to be a better moderator because I am a poster.
 

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Actually I did separate the owner from the team some years back in order to remain a fan. The only exposure I have to him is on this forum. And I do not have a problem with him being the owner or GM, he owns it, he can run it.

I dislike him intensely as a person, not the GM. And I do not see his face much so that doesn't affect me other than probably giving me nightmares as it does young children about the Babadook. And I do get a little chill up the old spine when he's all pissed off in a loss because he's embarrassed in public.

My only problem with him and the Cowboys is him making that ugly face the face of the team that was mine before it was his. I was a fan when he was trying to buy another team.

Bue Reid, I am consistent and will take the shots when I see them because I flat out just do not like this person and that goes back well before he owned this team.

Yes you are consistent. IM sure you Jerry Disgust creamer gets in your coffee every morning, and it seems to work very well....lol
Here is to a good season!
Maybe our next pick is going to the HOF...lol
 

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This feels very much like a "my guy" draft instead of a BPA draft. Instead of playing the board as it fell to them, Dallas walked in with a short list of guys they wanted, and they were going to be damned if they miss out on them.

Linderbaum and Jermaine Johnson were sitting there at #24, both could have gone in the teens without anyone blinking. You think Johnson would have taken some of the sting out of losing Gregory? That was BPA at a big position of need, but Jerral had backed himself into a corner at LG and had been sitting dead-red on Smith for a month.

Same thing in round 2. You have Travis Jones, the kind of huge, athletic 1T this team has been missing for decades. You have Nakobe Dean, the quarterback of CFB's arguably most sophisticated defense. Sam Williams wasn't the best player there, but he was the most Cowboys player there. Will McClay liked the big-school production and elite athleticism. DQ liked the speed-rush potential. Jerry liked the felonies. It was just too clean of a fit.

Jahan Dotson wasn't the reach the other guys were, but he was another guy the Cowboys had brought in and interviewed, and played a position that Dallas had backed themselves into needing.

I don't like how this draft is going. When Dallas just takes studs that fall to them, it usually works out pretty well. When Dallas reaches for positional need, you get guys like Taco. This draft has been reaching for Cowboys guys and need rather than taking what the league gives you.
 

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Why cant it be said that Jerry is just the total optimist? He is enjoying the process? He loves the draft, hes excited about new players and he shares that excitement. It is amazing to me how so many of you think an 80 year old rich guy goes out of his way to try and make you think anything. He lives in his own bubble. Does what he wants, says what he wants, live hoe he wants and doesnt need 1 bit of approval from us fans.
It can for sure be said that Jerry is an eternal optimist. I agree with that. That’s great for many things in life. But it’s one of many reasons why he’s a terrible GM. The best GMs are always prepared for the worst case scenarios. A GM can certainly be optimistic but he better also have a strong plan for the worst case scenarios.

JJ believes everything he does is sound. He doesn’t seem to even be open to the idea that he’s the one constant in the 26 year playoff desert we're in. Every owner and GM does a sales job to the fans. I get it. The problem here Jerry actually believes his own bs.
 

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Best player available (BPA) and need are synergistic and compensatory. If you already have your franchise QB, do you pick the best QB who also may be one of the BPAs in the draft if he falls in your lap? No. You trade the pick for something or you pick the player you need who is also the BPA. You always have to look for what you’re compensating for. The point has always been to not REACH for need over BPA, and everything within that is a gray area.
I would take the qb , and play him in PS and if he looks good, you have 2 options, keep him as a # 2, and possible future starter, or you
could trade him for more than what you gave for him.
that is better than taking a need player who is a maybe.
 

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If your drafting low like 24, would it be smart to just forget the 1st round guys, and use your round one pick to get any 2nd round player you want?
Then do same thing rest of the rounds.
That way you have top pick in all the rounds , instead of some low 1st round guy, and same for rest of rounds.
 

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Like any draft, none of us know whether or not any of these players will be as good as advertised. I think Tyler Smith CAN be an excellent player. But he is raw and unpolished and will not likely be an instant plug and play star like Tyron Smith, Zack Martin or Travis Frederick.

Young Smith will play immediately of course. And he does have a lot of potential upside. Like Coach said earlier, it is just plain amazing that this nearly 80 yr old billionaire playing fantasy football GM has to insult our fans with his schtick every year. He craves making everyone think he’s outsmarting everyone.
Yep but his schtick works well enough on the casual and fringe fans which make up the bulk of our fanbase not the more savvy diehards.
 
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