Twitter: Prescott update

[Doomsday101]

If he plays well, then you have to give him credit, regardless of the out come.
If he throws a critical INT and makes mental mistakes, even his ardent fans will be critical.

12-5 #1 scoring offense, did not hear crap from critics other than He played no one. I agree any player plays good they deserve credit same when they play poorly.

 

[USArmyVet]

12-5 #1 scoring offense, did not hear crap from critics other than He played no one. I agree any player plays good they deserve credit same when they play poorly.

Dallas was 12-5 yes, but Dak was 11-5 and Rush was 1-0......and that record meant nothing given the goose egg that was laid in the playoffs.

 

[Doomsday101]

26 ppg/average scored in 2016 (16 games w/Dak) compared to 19 ppg/average against

22 ppg/average scored in 2022 (4 games w/Rush) compared to 13 ppg/average against

So just over a FG difference offensively.

It is not just point per game, things like 3rd down where you actually pick up 1st downs and moving the chains, TOP where Dallas was dominate meaning you are controlling the ball not giving it back to the opposing team. Right now Dallas ranks in the bottom half in 3rd down conversion and in TOP for an offense who is not taking many chances playing close to the vest moving the chains becomes pretty big. Regardless of who is playiing QB those things must improve I would say the same thing if Dak was playing QB why should Rush be any different?

 

[Captain-Crash]

yeah, we hate wins, unless.....................

 

[Doomsday101]

Dallas was 12-5 yes, but Dak was 11-5 and Rush was 1-0......and that record meant nothing given the goose egg that was laid in the playoffs.

In the end you are right but people praising poor play on offense is a joke, When this offense has struggled under Dak people came down on him yet praise the job Rush and this offense is doing? I'm not against Rush at all, but this offense is not playing well they are not moving the ball and people are acting as if it OK because Dak is not playing? lol Give me a break.

Maybe this is more about expectation on Rush? No one had any expectation

 

[USArmyVet]

It is not just point per game, things like 3rd down where you actually pick up 1st downs and moving the chains, TOP where Dallas was dominate meaning you are controlling the ball not giving it back to the opposing team. Right now Dallas ranks in the bottom half in 3rd down conversion and in TOP for an offense who is not taking many chances playing close to the vest moving the chains becomes pretty big. Regardless of who is playiing QB those things must improve I would say the same thing if Dak was playing QB why should Rush be any different?

Week 1 w/Dak Dallas went 3 of 15 on 3rd downs and the TOP was 32:42 to 27:18 in favor of TB. The last 3 games saw Dallas average a TOP of 29:42....which is nearly a 50/50 TOP split and improvement since week 1.

The fact is the game plan recently has replicated 2016: rely on the running game and defense while avoiding turnovers and mistakes.

 

[Doomsday101]

Week 1 w/Dak Dallas went 3 of 15 on 3rd downs and the TOP was 32:42 to 27:18 in favor of TB. The last 3 games saw Dallas average a TOP of 29:42....which is nearly a 50/50 TOP split and improvement since week 1.

The fact is the game plan recently has replicated 2016: rely on the running game and defense while avoiding turnovers and mistakes.

Yes it is he played poorly I made no excuses for it. He played bad, team committed way too many penalties we could not stop the run of Tampa but you are right Dak did not help at all with poor play. I understand they are trying to do what they did in 2016 but they are not moving the ball, they are at the bottom in 3rd down conversion that was not the case in 2016, they held time of possession in 2016 that is not the case now. These are major stats when talking ball control close the vest play. These are thing they must improve on be it Dak or Rush but to sit there and act as if everything on offense is great is beyond ridicules

 

[USArmyVet]

In the end you are right but people praising poor play on offense is a joke, When this offense has struggled under Dak people came down on him yet praise the job Rush and this offense has doing? I'm not against Rush at all, but this offense is not playing well they are not moving the ball and people are acting as if it OK because Dak is not playing? lol Give me a break.

What people have criticized is the Dak led offense doing nothing until a game is out of hand in addition to Dak pressing too much and making turnover mistakes.

This isn't Dak vs. Rush but rather the fact that the current QB play, while not sexy and dropping 30+ points on teams, is avoiding turnovers and not putting the defense in bad field position.

The Detroit Lions are one of the highest scoring NFL offenses yet their defense is bad hence their record is 1-4 whereas Dallas is a lower scoring team yet because of their defense they are 4-1.

 

[blueblood70]

Yes it is he played poorly I made no excuses for it. He played bad, team committed way too many penalties we could not stop the run of Tampa but you are right Dak did not help at all with poor play. I understand they are trying to do what they did in 2016 but they are not moving the ball, they are at the bottom in 3rd down conversion that was not the case in 2016, they held time of possession in 2016 that is not the case now. These are major stats when talking ball control close the vest play. These are thing they must improve on be it Dak or Rush but to sit there and act as if everything on offense is great is beyond ridicules

lucky i cant see who you are arguing with they on Ignore..

top is important i mean scoring more ie larger margins early can help rest defense especially if you have game in hand you pull guys like zeke, martin, and tank, Parsons..its valuable to get bigger leads early and not have your defense in the field until the final snaps if you can help it.

any fan that believes dak cant run dumbed down vanilla version of an offense we are running and do it better, are haters. Just getting by shouldn't be the measuring stick for a good offense.

 

[Doomsday101]

What people have criticized is the Dak led offense doing nothing until a game is out of hand in addition to Dak pressing too much and making turnover mistakes.

This isn't Dak vs. Rush but rather the fact that the current QB play, while not sexy and dropping 30+ points on teams, is avoiding turnovers and not putting the defense in bad field position.

The Detroit Lions are one of the highest scoring NFL offenses yet their defense is bad hence their record is 1-4 whereas Dallas is a lower scoring team yet because of their defense they are 4-1.

Dak has never turned the ball over much. What I see is people parsing poor play on offense and yet those same people would be all over Dak if this offense was playing like they are right now. It is not even about the points it is about moving the friken ball, giving defense a rest. You may like how offense is doing, I don't and I know they need to pick it up and do a better job

 

[Captain-Crash]

dak is such a great quarterback we need to dumb down the offense for him. hum, thanks Rush for showing us.

 

[USArmyVet]

Dak has never turned the ball over much. What I see is people parsing poor play on offense and yet those same people would be all over Dak if this offense was playing like they are right now. It is not even about the points it is about moving the friken ball, giving defense a rest. You may like how offense is doing, I don't and I know they need to pick it up and do a better job

86 career games
51 career INT's
28 career fumbles lost
79 career turnovers

That is .92 turnover a game average but 69 of the 79 career turnovers have taken place in Dak's last 70 career games which places him at .99 turnovers/game and since 2020 Dak has had 25 turnovers in his last 22 games for an average of 1.14 a game.

While that doesn't seem a big increase it is a trend that doesn't need to continue, especially with a quality defense.

 

[Doomsday101]

86 career games
51 career INT's
28 career fumbles lost
79 career turnovers

That is .92 turnover a game average but 69 of the 79 career turnovers have taken place in Dak's last 70 career games which places him at .99 turnovers/game and since 2020 Dak has had 25 turnovers in his last 22 games for an average of 1.14 a game.

While that doesn't seem a big increase it is a trend that doesn't need to continue, especially with a quality defense.

All I can say if you are happy with the offensive production then so be it. I'm not. Be it Rush or Dak out there, we have a great defense, but we need to see better production from this offense.

 

[phildadon86]

12-5 #1 scoring offense, did not hear crap from critics other than He played no one. I agree any player plays good they deserve credit same when they play poorly.

The same critics are making Philly out to be a powerhouse after beating Detroit, Minnesota, Jacksonville, and Arizona (by a missed FG)

 

[Doomsday101]

The same critics are making Philly out to be a powerhouse after beating Detroit, Minnesota, Jacksonville, and Arizona (by a missed FG)

Not sure if they are overrated or not, I know Sunday we will find out. Myself I look at the talent on that team Jalen Hurts is showing better production from the pocket than in past years and of course his ability to run the ball puts pressure on defense. Miles Sanders, RB, AJ Brown, WR, DeVonta Smith, WR, and on defense Brandon Graham, Josh Sweat, Darius Slay. They have some quality talent on this team. Vikes are 4-1 I would not call them no body. No doubt Cowboys can go out and win but this notion this is a push over game, not buying it. I fully expect a hard nosed football game and Cowboys need to do out and play good ball if they expect to win.

 

[USArmyVet]

All I can say if you are happy with the offensive production then so be it. I'm not. Be it Rush or Dak out there, we have a great defense, but we need to see better production from this offense.

I never said the offensive production does not need improvement but the last 4 games, with the way the defense has been playing, averaging just over 20 points/game has been enough. However, of course an improved offense will help take pressure off the defense but can Dak provide that improvement upon his return? Time will tell.

 

[USArmyVet]

The same critics are making Philly out to be a powerhouse after beating Detroit, Minnesota, Jacksonville, and Arizona (by a missed FG)

They also beat Washington.

That said the teams the Eagles beat have a combined record of 11-15 (.423). The teams Dallas has beaten this season have a combined record of 9-11 (.450). That is a small margin of difference so if the Eagles victories are to be looked down upon shouldn't Dallas' victories as well?

Furthermore, when Dak and Dallas started the 2021 season off 5-1 with Dak receiving MVP talk, the combined records of the teams Dallas beat had those teams at the .435 win percentage mark. So does that mean Dallas' start last season and Dak's MVP talk was BS given the teams Dak beat had a combined record near that of what Hurts and the Eagles have beaten so far this season?

 

[mardwin]

He’s definitely starting against the Lions. Perfect time for him to come back given how bad the Lions defense has looked. If Dak looks bad against them, stuff will hit the fan.

The lions' pass rush is pretty decent so he's going to get popped a few times and then his fans can whine about the oline.

 

[phildadon86]

They also beat Washington.

That said the teams the Eagles beat have a combined record of 11-15 (.423). The teams Dallas has beaten this season have a combined record of 9-11 (.450). That is a small margin of difference so if the Eagles victories are to be looked down upon shouldn't Dallas' victories as well?

Furthermore, when Dak and Dallas started the 2021 season off 5-1 with Dak receiving MVP talk, the combined records of the teams Dallas beat had those teams at the .435 win percentage mark. So does that mean Dallas' start last season and Dak's MVP talk was BS given the teams Dak beat had a combined record near that of what Hurts and the Eagles have beaten so far this season?

Not sure if they are overrated or not, I know Sunday we will find out. Myself I look at the talent on that team Jalen Hurts is showing better production from the pocket than in past years and of course his ability to run the ball puts pressure on defense. Miles Sanders, RB, AJ Brown, WR, DeVonta Smith, WR, and on defense Brandon Graham, Josh Sweat, Darius Slay. They have some quality talent on this team. Vikes are 4-1 I would not call them no body. No doubt Cowboys can go out and win but this notion this is a push over game, not buying it. I fully expect a hard nosed football game and Cowboys need to do out and play good ball if they expect to win.

Not at all. I am saying neither the Cowboys or Eagles have really played anyone. I dont consider Kirk Cousins in primetime a threat to anyone. Look at his record. All I was stating is that the double standard is hilarious. Because when the Cowboys beat up on teams that others say arent good its just that. They havent beaten anyone.

When the Eagles do it. They are contenders lol. Thats all I was trying to convey.

 

[Doomsday101]

I never said the offensive production does not need improvement but the last 4 games, with the way the defense has been playing, averaging just over 20 points/game has been enough. However, of course an improved offense will help take pressure off the defense but can Dak provide that improvement upon his return? Time will tell.

Yes Defense accounted for some of those points. I think Rush played well as you said fairly mistake free but the offense is not making many plays, relying on defense and special teams to gives on points is asking a lot.