Allen, Herbert, Lawrence and Burrow reach .500

If I criticize Dak it is because of His play. He is the QB of the Cowboys and I just want him to play better
Oh I do too but criticism should be factual versus opinionated and when you or anyone else say hes the reason we dont get past the divisional round your just not being factual. Its a TEAM effort and Dak is part of the TEAM. I will say I agree with the criticism he gets this deer in the headlights look to him when pressured constantly, I do agree he doesnt process as fast as some of the others in the league but that doesnt mean he dont process.But all the Dak cant make this throw or that throw is falde he can make every throw but he needs the same thing every QB does help from his team.

I think some in here get patrick Mahome or aaron rodgers envy and thats the benchmark you want for your QB. It isnt happening with dak hell never be them but he is good enough. And you have been onn the dak critic train as far back as I can remember its not a new thing which is your right. But that dont mean your always correct.

Anyway next week you may have another solid week if dak struggles again against the niners you will have many a talking point. I appreciate you anyway Steven A
 
Oh I do too but criticism should be factual versus opinionated and when you or anyone else say hes the reason we dont get past the divisional round your just not being factual. Its a TEAM effort and Dak is part of the TEAM. I will say I agree with the criticism he gets this deer in the headlights look to him when pressured constantly, I do agree he doesnt process as fast as some of the others in the league but that doesnt mean he dont process.But all the Dak cant make this throw or that throw is falde he can make every throw but he needs the same thing every QB does help from his team.

I think some in here get patrick Mahome or aaron rodgers envy and thats the benchmark you want for your QB. It isnt happejning with dak hell never be them but he is good enough. And you have been onn the dak critic train as far back as I can remember its not a new thing which is your right. But that dont mean your always correct.

Anyway next week you may have another solid week if dak struggles again against the niners you will have many a talking point. I appreciate you anyway Steven A
I do not have envy of any other QB nor do I judge Dak against any other QB. I have been watching football for way too long and I know it doesn't work that way

We agree on this:

"I will say I agree with the criticism he gets this deer in the headlights look to him when pressured constantly, I do agree he doesnt process as fast

We disagree on this:

"But all the Dak cant make this throw or that throw is falde he can make every throw"

The dynamic of the History of Dak has caused a rift in Cowboy Nation . . . It is what it is and I put all the blame on Jerry

I believe a lot of the weaknesses and Flaws Dak still possesses is a direct result of Him starting since His Rookie year. I believe this is the same for any QB. I am a firm believer in having a Rookie sit a year, the reason being that these young QB's develop bad mechanics and habits ad they try not to get killed. I believe that extra time sitting allows the young QB to adjust to the speed of the game

The way Jerry handled 2016 was asinine and a great opportunity was missed. To me the identity of that team was the Offensive Line and Zeke was the perfect compliment. Yeah Dak won games but WTH was Jerry thinking. The rest is History and we are so far dug in on opposite sides that we can not see eye to eye and Dak has become bigger then the Cowboys

I have been called all kind of names and been accused of holding strange beliefs

Because I criticize Dak some accuse me of being a Romosexual as they Bash Him . . . meanwhile my last account 31 Hammer was removed because of a drunken tirade criticizing Romo after a Cowboy Loss . . 2016 Offensive Line and Zeke still required Romo over Dak to be at its bestteamj yet many here will never admit that and jump On anyone who suggests it.

You all thought Time would prove you right. You believed 2016 was the floor . . . As far as success it was the ceiling. Kellen transformed Him into a "Stat" Guy by feasting on weak teams but any team worth its salt makes Dak struggle. It is what it is

Having said that I like what I saw from Dak to start the Patriots game and for me it was big. It is still a Process (Lol) of He continues to improve and grow into McCarthy's Offense I will be tickled Pink

Through the Circus that is Jerry and the Cowboys, I believe Dak's growth has been stunted . . . By the end of the year we shall see the real Dak weather He will be successful or Not, only time will tell . . . I liked the touch He was putting on the Ball against New England. He left some meat on the bone but that is correctable with time
 
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I do not have envy of any other QB nor do I judge Dak against any other QB. I have been watching football for way too long and I know it doesn't work that way

We agree on this:

"I will say I agree with the criticism he gets this deer in the headlights look to him when pressured constantly, I do agree he doesnt process as fast

We disagree on this:

"But all the Dak cant make this throw or that throw is falde he can make every throw"

The dynamic of the History of Dak has caused a rift in Cowboy Nation . . . It is what it is and I put all the blame on Jerry

I believe a lot of the weaknesses and Flaws Dak still possesses is a direct result of Him starting since His Rookie year. I believe this is the same for any QB. I am a firm believer in having a Rookie sit a year, the reason being that these young QB's develop bad mechanics and habits ad they try not to get killed. I believe that extra time sitting allows the young QB to adjust to the speed of the game

The way Jerry handled 2016 was asinine and a great opportunity was missed. To me the identity of that team was the Offensive Line and Zeke was the perfect compliment. Yeah Dak won games but WTH was Jerry thinking. The rest is History and we are so far dug in on opposite sides that we can not see eye to eye and Dak has become bigger then the Cowboys

I have been called all kind of names and been accused of holding strange beliefs

Because I criticize Dak some accuse me of being a Romosexual as they Bash Him . . . meanwhile my last account 31 Hammer was removed because of a drunken tirade criticizing Romo after a Cowboy Loss . . 2016 Offensive Line and Zeke still required Romo over Dak to be at its bestteamj yet many here will never admit that and jump On anyone who suggests it.

You all thought Time would prove you right. You believed 2016 was the floor . . . As far as success it was the ceiling. Kellen transformed Him into a "Stat" Guy by feasting on weak teams but any team worth its salt makes Dak struggle. It is what it is

Having said that I like what I saw from Dak to start the Patriots game and for me it was big. It is still a Process (Lol) of He continues to improve and grow into McCarthy's Offense I will be tickled Pink

Through the Circus that is Jerry and the Cowboys, I believe Dak's growth has been stunted . . . By the end of the year we shall see the real Dak weather He will be successful or Not, only time will tell . . . I liked the touch He was putting on the Ball against New England. He left some meat on the bone but that is correctable with time
what a book man
we are going to agree to disagree. Ive watched you for the better part of 5 years and actions dont always line up with words. The frequencies in which you blame THE QB is what the point of contention . Most of those that root for Dak know hes flawed but we also know its a TEAM game.The flaws show up more when pressured as do all QBS. I do agree the coaching staff hasnt done him any favors.

I see why we disagree so much I couldnt stand Roy Williams and Romo looking back may have fared better but who knows he was pretzel back then and Dak wasnt the cause of the failure that year

It was the defense have a good day though
 
By @RonnieT24 's logic there is one quarterback above them all and there is no debate:
Brock Purdy

Purdy has never lost a single game with the 49ers.

If a team's wins are the final criteria (silly, but his opinion) then the iron bear trap has hold of his leg, with no escape.
What the hale are you on about here? Whose opinion are you attempting to commandeer here. I KNOW wins are a team thing. I am simply thumbing my nose at those who anointed these kids for greatness by pointing out that they have had a lot of trouble "putting their teams on their back" and winning in spite of poor team play this season (and really any season). And on top of it some of them are playing like warm dawg poo.

I know some of you don't like to be called out on your hypocrisy when it comes to judging QBs against Dak. That's the main reason I do it.
 
I know some of you don't like to be called out on your hypocrisy when it comes to judging QBs against Dak. That's the main reason I do it.
I'm usually defending Dak around here, so you don't know what you're saying here.
 
Only the hit dawg holla.
Ain't hollering'. Ain't hit.

And your logic is still broken...as your first post was all about evaluating QBs by wins, which even now you've admitted is flawed.

Anyways, I stay with my opinion that Dak is somewhere between 8th and 12th best QB. Allen and Burrow are top five.

The two I'm fascinated with most right now are Purdy and Tua.
 
Ain't hollering'. Ain't hit.

And your logic is still broken...as your first post was all about evaluating QBs by wins, which even now you've admitted is flawed.

Anyways, I stay with my opinion that Dak is somewhere between 8th and 12th best QB. Allen and Burrow are top five.

The two I'm fascinated with most right now are Purdy and Tua.
I KNOW it's flawed. I made this post to make fun of the people who evaluate QBs that way. The ones who are constantly trying to sell one guy or another is better than Dak because they "put their teams on their backs" and "will them to wins." I am still looking for someone to explain to me why their "will" isn't working as well this season. Maybe the team around them aint as good?

As for Dak's "ranking" among QBs. I don't spend a lot of time worrying about it. The dude has shown he can play at a historic level and this team found ways to lose anyway. And then some softheads come on here and blame him. Dak is good enough to get this team where it wants to go.. But he can't do it by himself.. and I know this will shock some people.. NO QB DOES IT BY HIMSELF! That's just a narrative lazy fans and journalists like to throw out there.
 
Time to check on the great young QBs again..

Allen - 4-3
Burrow - 3-3
Lawrence - 5-2
Herbert - 2-4.

An aggregate of 14-12. While not bad certainly not "taking over the league" like we were told they were gonna. I still have to assume that Burrow and Co. will eventually get it together but I'm not so sure about the Chargers. The Jags play in one of if not the weakest division in football so I expect them to run away with their division and maybe even steal HFA and the first round bye because Buffalo and Miami will beat up on one another and the Jets and Patriots are going to bite them in the arse as well. It's hard to see anyone in the West really challenging KC but they have really been struggling for long stretches on offense this year. Maybe Bienemy was more important than he was given credit for? I expect them to drop one or two more as well.
 
Lawrence looks pretty good to me.

2nd year under this coach. I suspect he keeps rising, though maybe not in a straight line
 
Lawrence looks pretty good to me.

2nd year under this coach. I suspect he keeps rising, though maybe not in a straight line
Yeah he looks decent but has not gotten back to where he was at the end of last season. The sore knee isn't helping either. Then again I think he has played better overall since he banged it up. But it's never a straight line no matter how much people want it to be.
 
I KNOW it's flawed. I made this post to make fun of the people who evaluate QBs that way. The ones who are constantly trying to sell one guy or another is better than Dak because they "put their teams on their backs" and "will them to wins." I am still looking for someone to explain to me why their "will" isn't working as well this season. Maybe the team around them aint as good?

As for Dak's "ranking" among QBs. I don't spend a lot of time worrying about it. The dude has shown he can play at a historic level and this team found ways to lose anyway. And then some softheads come on here and blame him. Dak is good enough to get this team where it wants to go.. But he can't do it by himself.. and I know this will shock some people.. NO QB DOES IT BY HIMSELF! That's just a narrative lazy fans and journalists like to throw out there.
Not even Mahoones can put the team on his back; that never happens. Witness the SB where he was pressured nearly every play. Did he win that game?
 
Herbert has a broken finger on his non throwing hand. Moore play calling is poor
 
You are so funny. Must be some good stuff you are taking
Yes! I am truly enjoying my scorched earth plan on Dak Haters via Micah Parsons and New Media...

My stuff has infiltrated the Lockerroom and True Cowboy Fans :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao:
 
Yes! I am truly enjoying my scorched earth plan on Dak Haters via Micah Parsons and New Media...

My stuff has infiltrated the Lockerroom and True Cowboy Fans :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao:
Hey if you like living in a delusion more power to you
 
Yeah he looks decent but has not gotten back to where he was at the end of last season. The sore knee isn't helping either. Then again I think he has played better overall since he banged it up. But it's never a straight line no matter how much people want it to be.
I always was a little skeptical of the hype with Lawrence that he was going to be better than Luck right away. Of course the mess that team was his first year really cost him.
But I don't know; he just does not seem to make me believe he can be a All Pro Elite QB. Might be my prejudice over all the pre draft hype but somehow...
 

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