Draft priorty

[Aven8]

We need playmakers on offense. For the past two years we’ve had Lamb and no one else. That will be the priority. The offseason tells us as much.

 

[Chasing6]

We need playmakers on offense. For the past two years we’ve had Lamb and no one else. That will be the priority. The offseason tells us as much.

Yes, we need to score 48 points a game with this defense.

 

[Typhus]

Much talk about drafting a WR with are first pick. If we select a WR at 12, he better be an absolute stud. We need a another WR but what we’re paying Lamb huge $$, can we really afford it? I’m convinced the regardelss of need we should be selecting the best available player, rds 1-3.
Im hoping for of DT, OT, MLB or perhaps a Stud CB. We need to run and stop the run first and foremost.
Or if we trade down get more picks then draft WR, Edge LB, or RB in round 1
Discuss

Whoever we draft at 12 will be on a rookie contract, so it doesn't matter about the position financially for a few years.

 

[FanofJerry]

Assuming all this is real...

This board CONSTANTLY harping about contract numbers, numbers in general...always acting like it's opinion is gospel...

Shouldn't trade value numbers adjust to the market moving to want to move back and accumulate more picks?

There will always be a team looking to move up...not arguing that. I'm saying that teams will start charging other teams higher prices for wanting to accumulate picks.

There should be a counter price increase as teams move towards trying to accumulate picks. ASSUMING it's the smart move like this board proclaims

 

[fivetwos]

Well I'd say about 1/4th of the people in the draft zone are convinced Warren is a big time difference maker.

I personally am not sure he could really inflate the offense that much more than the WRs, but everyday I am less and less enthused about drafting a WR at 12. Maybe Warren is better than Golden or Tetairoa.

Could be a more fatigue thing but I can't see the WRs being that special and Warren might be a top 5 TE in the NFL. Who knows.

It’s very possible that Warren is BPA at 12.

I wouldn’t hate the pick. I’d rather have a stud TE than a WR that may or may not contribute right away.

It’ll just make the Schoonmaker pick look all that much worse, but they shouldn’t compound one mistake with another.

I’m not sure about offering up significant money for Ferguson. I like him and he has shown flashes, but being special may not be in the cards. Could be a four year and move on situation with him.

 

[fivetwos]

We need playmakers on offense. For the past two years we’ve had Lamb and no one else. That will be the priority. The offseason tells us as much.

I wouldn’t approach it that way, but I do understand the argument to go that route…and I very much think that will be what actually happens.

If Jeanty falls, it’s him. Can’t see them passing on McMillan either. If not it’ll likely be a small deal down with a RB or WR being the target.

 

[BrassCowboy]

We are bringing in 11 different RB's to look at, so don't be surprised when we get a RB in round 5 or 6 and stick with the RB by committee.

Well we need at least 1 good RB before we start talking RB by committee, but hey after 30 years, nothing surprises me anymore

 

[Pass2Run]

We are bringing in 11 different RB's to look at, so don't be surprised when we get a RB in round 5 or 6 and stick with the RB by committee.

Yep.

 

[Typhus]

They are probably hoping for a small trade down, but the first player is going to be an offensive skill player. The mission is making the Prescott deal not look so bad.

Not what I would do, but if the first pick isn’t a WR, bet the house they’ll reach for one in the second.

The best scenario we can hope for is probably if Sanders is there, and someone wants to move up significantly and dangles next years first, and focus on building the DL early. They will not be doing that but one can hope.

If Sanders is still on the board at 11, I will be doing some back flips.
In this draft take all the darts you can get, and if anyone is willing to give up some value picks to trade to 12 than take it.
We can only hope that Shedeur slips that far.

 

[BrassCowboy]

We are bringing in 11 different RB's to look at, so don't be surprised when we get a RB in round 5 or 6 and stick with the RB by committee.

Now if you are talking double dipping and grabbing a 2nd RB in 5th or 6th, yeah I would do that as most would but I have no faith in this gm .

We need playmakers this year . If any of us expect Dak to do the impossible by himself, especially for him, and you'll get nothing more than what we've been getting and getting the last 30 years.
We need a real running back to get these defenses out of past events 100% of the time and keep them honest.
we need a real second wide receiver to help CD lamb because all our wide receivers other than CD Lamb will never be better than 3rd wide receivers.
There is no way we expect that fifth or sixth round running back to carry the load and two six round rated running backs do not equal a number one

 

[shabazz]

If the Cowboys go WR at 12 he will have a rookie contract so yes they can afford it.

.....and then Jerry can wait till the very last minute to sign him to a top dollar contract.

 

[blueblood70]

1) If you're trying to argue that Tolbert was just as effective as a Cooper Kupp and similar players last year its just incorrect. Also comparing him to Cooks is a waste of time. Brandin Cooks wasn't brought back for a reason, and that is because the guy is past him prime and hit production both years was below what you want out of your WR2.

2) There is no evidence that they have completely switched the entire offense. In fact if you go back and really watch the games toward the end of the year the exact things Shottenheimer is talking about shows up on film. Dedicated to the run, short splits for WRs, Multi TE sets, using a FB, balanced formations you can run and pass out of. I think people are in for a bit of a surprise if they think the offense is going to look radically different just because of the coaching changes.

Look I don't discuss things with you too much anymore that's why I have you on ignore but let me entertain you for a minute..


pick out these names that were either a trade that costumes trade value and they had to pay the money or just got these guys in free agency show me all their numbers just last year and a guy like Debo Samuels showed me there his numbers the last three years have been in decline but hey he's a name and since they didn't get a name he must be better than Tobert no and I am using Brandon Cooks because he was here the last two years and Tolbert at worst matched his numbers except for his numbers are on the rise why Brandon Cook was on the decline and another team just paid this man $8 million that's why I'm bringing his name up and you'll never understand that the New Orleans Saints think he's better than Tolbert and I'm saying he's not so it makes sense to bring his name into it he's essentially right now as of today replacing Brandon Cooks..

look I'll do those two but go ahead i'm talking about look at the free ages most of which were all either hurt or in steady decline or a couple of trades that were made these dudes were not who they used to be where their names on the back of the jerseys and nobody knows if they'll be those people just like Demo Samuel's and Michael Gallup both go Washington you think somehow that's going to be a couple of weapons for them or is it two dudes on the decline been injured and probably won't do much I mean I either debate somebody's going to end up being right.. I mean you can make the argument that Cooper couple bounced back but I'm saying last year and we gotta go by only what's happened recently they were very similar players and we got ours cheaper a lot cheaper and he's probably going to be our third that's the point....

Yes, Tolbert on rookie deal HUGE discount and goes as nobody to you all Not bad comp for last year .. Twenty and you know Tolbert has improved every year he's still young and cheap.. In my opinion the stats that count he's got more touchdowns and more yards per catch... Do we want to add in the fact that he had to play with Cooper Rush most of the year?
Cooper Kupp signed a 3 year, $45,000,000 contract with the Seattle Seahawks, including $12,000,000 signing bonus, $17,500,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $15,000,000.
Kupp

Tolbert makes 1M.. 14M less
2024 regular season stats

• REC. Tied-37th.
• YDS. 710. 49th.
• TD. Tied-35th.
• AVG. 10.6. 150+

Tolbert

2024 regular season stats

• REC. Tied-80th.
• YDS. 610. Tied-64th.
• TD. Tied-21st.
• AVG. 12.4. 113th.

 

[charron]

Well I'd say about 1/4th of the people in the draft zone are convinced Warren is a big time difference maker.

I personally am not sure he could really inflate the offense that much more than the WRs, but everyday I am less and less enthused about drafting a WR at 12. Maybe Warren is better than Golden or Tetairoa.

Could be a more fatigue thing but I can't see the WRs being that special and Warren might be a top 5 TE in the NFL. Who knows.

I just remember when atlanta took what's his name and everyone was like he's gonna be a HOF year 1 and of course I consider how Dallas typically uses TE's and think there are better ways to spend high draft picks. In this system and most systems an elite RB or possible elite receiver if one is there would be better on offense or maybe a top end DT or DE or LB or CB falls to them.

 

[shabazz]

So many needs here that the order doesn't really matter.

Generally, the thought process is that you draft the highest dollar positions but since we don't buy high dollar free agents it doesn't apply here.

Signing a washed up veteran or bust free agent usually costs the same no matter the position. The difference is negligible.

Just go bpa

 

[JayFord]

This team needs a RB or WR first round no exceptions

For one we need weapons and for 2 the fans need some excitement

This team is boring

 

[Pass2Run]

I'm starting to think CB will be in play, especially in round 2 or if we trade down.

I really hope they wait until at least the 3rd to draft a RB. There's just so many.

 

[boysfanindc]

After a trade down to 16-18, would like to see it go WR, CB. RB and OT.

 

[Chasing6]

Now if you are talking double dipping and grabbing a 2nd RB in 5th or 6th, yeah I would do that as most would but I have no faith in this gm .

We need playmakers this year . If any of us expect Dak to do the impossible by himself, especially for him, and you'll get nothing more than what we've been getting and getting the last 30 years.
We need a real running back to get these defenses out of past events 100% of the time and keep them honest.
we need a real second wide receiver to help CD lamb because all our wide receivers other than CD Lamb will never be better than 3rd wide receivers.
There is no way we expect that fifth or sixth round running back to carry the load and two six round rated running backs do not equal a number one

Bottom line is we have too many needs.

We need playmakers on offense. For the past two years we’ve had Lamb and no one else. That will be the priority. The offseason tells us as much.

That's what happens when you pay 1 WR too much money. Is 3 $15M WR's, better than a $35M, and 2 $5M WR's?

 

[fivetwos]

If Sanders is still on the board at 11, I will be doing some back flips.
In this draft take all the darts you can get, and if anyone is willing to give up some value picks to trade to 12 than take it.
We can only hope that Shedeur slips that far.

That’s what I’m rooting for more than anything.

Assuming they continue to refuse to add significant players through FA, they have to find a way to get their hands on more draft picks. Problem is…the first round pick is their big acquisition for every season, and every year is our year according to Jerry, so can’t be thinking of the future.

Fun fact: Jerry hasn’t traded for a future first since Parcells was here, and it was done twice. Also many times when Johnson was here. Those two are in the HOF for a reason, as in on the field success and roster building talent…not some sham like they made a ton of money for league owners.

The Giants went from something like 10-11 to like 18-20 when Chicago wanted to go up for Fields, and the cost was next years first, plus. Ended up as a top ten pick. The player selected being a bust didn’t change that it was a nice deal for NY at the time.

Multiple firsts in a draft when supposedly a top QB is coming out doesn’t hurt to have around. Can move up, or parlay it into even more picks….which would make a lot of sense given their plan, but I guess I expect too much, like things to add up.

 

[Chasing6]

Now if you are talking double dipping and grabbing a 2nd RB in 5th or 6th, yeah I would do that as most would but I have no faith in this gm .

We need playmakers this year . If any of us expect Dak to do the impossible by himself, especially for him, and you'll get nothing more than what we've been getting and getting the last 30 years.
We need a real running back to get these defenses out of past events 100% of the time and keep them honest.
we need a real second wide receiver to help CD lamb because all our wide receivers other than CD Lamb will never be better than 3rd wide receivers.
There is no way we expect that fifth or sixth round running back to carry the load and two six round rated running backs do not equal a number one

There will be no value at 12 to draft a RB. If we trade back we are gambling for value. If not there in round 1, it may also not be there at 44. So will we gamble and wait like we did last year?

I seriously doubt we draft 2 RB's, after picking up 2 in FA.