Mickey: Time to Fill Up the RB Tank

[jazzcat22]

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/spagnola-time-to-fill-up-the-running-back-tank-again

Another nice article from mickey, straight forward, no company fluff.

Talks about past history of the great Dallas RB's, and a few others.

He is pushing to go get Jeanty. Said if he drops, should they trade a 3rd round to move up to select him.
But also acknowledged the need to fill other holes, and wait on a RB since there is depth. But sure is high on taking Jeanty.

Said a need for a pass rushing DE, but after Carter, there is really no one there at pick 12. So trade down, then they take take one and get an extra pick.

 

[Flamma]

He would have to drop to #8 for the Cowboys to get him with a 3rd. I think Jeanty doesn't get past #6.

Don't put it past the Giants to draft him. Their fans are furious at how they handled Barkley. Everyone thinks they're going to draft Carter or Hunter. But nothing helps a rookie QB (provided they draft one) than a really good RB.

 

[exciter]

He would have to drop to #8 for the Cowboys to get him with a 3rd. I think Jeanty doesn't get past #6.

Don't put it past the Giants to draft him. Their fans are furious at how they handled Barkley. Everyone thinks they're going to draft Carter or Hunter. But nothing helps a rookie QB (provided they draft one) than a really good RB.

Bingo!
Patriots have a massive hole at pass rusher. Move up 1 spot for a legitimate top 5 DE or take a tackle that would rank 15-20 in most drafts!

 

[boysfanindc]

I would trade down to 15-20 if available, otherwise focus would be CB or WR. Plenty of very good RB's will be there in the 2nd.

 

[Aven8]

I’ve been saying all of this for a few years. When the Cowboys are at their best they have a bell cow RB. I hope we get one finally again.

 

[Flamma]

I’ve been saying all of this for a few years. When the Cowboys are at their best they have a bell cow RB. I hope we get one finally again.

Agreed. But the last two, Zeke and Murray, they were running behind really good lines. I don't think we have that now.

 

[StarOfGlory]

He would have to drop to #8 for the Cowboys to get him with a 3rd. I think Jeanty doesn't get past #6.

Don't put it past the Giants to draft him. Their fans are furious at how they handled Barkley. Everyone thinks they're going to draft Carter or Hunter. But nothing helps a rookie QB (provided they draft one) than a really good RB.

I think the Giants believe they found their RB in Tyrone Tracy. Also, the Giants o-line is among the worst in the league. Their only legit guy is injured more than he plays.

 

[StarBoyz83]

For sure don't use 2 picks on 1 rb.

 

[blueblood70]

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/spagnola-time-to-fill-up-the-running-back-tank-again

Another nice article from mickey, straight forward, no company fluff.

Talks about past history of the great Dallas RB's, and a few others.

He is pushing to go get Jeanty. Said if he drops, should they trade a 3rd round to move up to select him.
But also acknowledged the need to fill other holes, and wait on a RB since there is depth. But sure is high on taking Jeanty.

Said a need for a pass rushing DE, but after Carter, there is really no one there at pick 12. So trade down, then they take take one and get an extra pick.

Well I know this isn't your idea because that's a dumb idea so can Mickey just st never mind I can't say it all they'll block it but yeah just be quiet there's no way you should move up to get AJ.. I'm sorry but yes he looks like a great player but there's no guarantees the gap in my opinion for the top 4 running backs and the top four wide receivers is not that big, DO not to move up, you move down..

And yes, we've had this discussion, and I know this is just another idea but any move ups in the first street rounds is absolutely counterintuitive for this team we got too many holes to fill to be wasting draft picks to move up and get a player that's probably not that much better, than the other three players in his group..


You want to revamp your running backroom that's what you do you trade down you either get your running back or your wide receiver you pick up an extra 3rd round pick that way in the second round you can take the best running back on the board and then this is the smart move in the 5th round you pick another running back this it's that deep I mean if you have to you could trade something from the 5th through the 7th round and package it and move back into the 4th that way now you have two running backs that go along with the veterans you already have on the team and now you're restocked... A guy like Bucky Irvin last year went in the 4th round there's going to be that guy that way you get 2 for 1..

I mean that trade down just two spots from Parsons from 10 to 12 end up getting us extra 3rd round pick which I believe could have been Osa or could have been Golston either way we got another good player on this team because of a small move down not up..

And I'm all about the two for one...so the alternative is to stand PAT Take BPA, but do not trade up....

 

[jazzcat22]

Well I know this isn't your idea because that's a dumb idea so can Mickey just st never mind I can't say it all they'll block it but yeah just be quiet there's no way you should move up to get AJ.. I'm sorry but yes he looks like a great player but there's no guarantees the gap in my opinion for the top 4 running backs and the top four wide receivers is not that big, DO not to move up, you move down..

And yes, we've had this discussion, and I know this is just another idea but any move ups in the first street rounds is absolutely counterintuitive for this team we got too many holes to fill to be wasting draft picks to move up and get a player that's probably not that much better, than the other three players in his group..


You want to revamp your running backroom that's what you do you trade down you either get your running back or your wide receiver you pick up an extra 3rd round pick that way in the second round you can take the best running back on the board and then this is the smart move in the 5th round you pick another running back this it's that deep I mean if you have to you could trade something from the 5th through the 7th round and package it and move back into the 4th that way now you have two running backs that go along with the veterans you already have on the team and now you're restocked... A guy like Bucky Irvin last year went in the 4th round there's going to be that guy that way you get 2 for 1..

I mean that trade down just two spots from Parsons from 10 to 12 end up getting us extra 3rd round pick which I believe could have been Osa or could have been Golston either way we got another good player on this team because of a small move down not up..

And I'm all about the two for one...so the alternative is to stand PAT Take BPA, but do not trade up....

Inagree, do not move up at all. I still prefer a slight trade down. They can still get an impact player in the top 21 to 24 picks. Maybe not impact like the so called draft experts say. But then again, at times their guess is as good as ours.

Then used that extra pick(s) and still get players that can contribute right way.

If they can get 4 or 5 players in the 1st 4 round, and all can contribute in some way. It will be a great draft.
Those late round picks are your development types anyway. Unless they get lucky like all teams.

 

[blueblood70]

I’ve been saying all of this for a few years. When the Cowboys are at their best they have a bell cow RB. I hope we get one finally again.

Finally???!!,LOL

you do realize we only had two years in recent history that would be 2015 and 2024, where we didn't have one of the top backs in the league..

You're trying to dismiss Ezekiel Elliott and I don't like where you're going, this dude was one of the best running backs coming out of college that I've ever seen as a rookie in the NFL top 5.. I think he was third all time in his rookie year for his production and then managed the first four years to be 1 of the best running backs in the NFL in my opinion he was the top running back his first four years.. he would have won three rushing titles right out of college had he not been suspended that's something that cannot really be debated, even though we don't know because he didn't play those six games, but he was leading the league and by a margin in yards per game...

And yes it was a bit of a mistake paying Tony Pollard to franchise tag but at least we had a back that was considered a starter I mean that is why the Titans took him right ? So, we did have a starter and at one time it was Elliott, and Pollard, with Rico.. Most of our rushing issues when we had those guys all together, were in scheme, and, execution by the offensive line and the coaches play development and calling.

Yes, I agree not addressing this last year, it was a mistake but still come on...Finally!! You act like it's been years and years... Literally it's only been one year.

 

[blueblood70]

Inagree, do not move up at all. I still prefer a slight trade down. They can still get an impact player in the top 21 to 24 picks. Maybe not impact like the so called draft experts say. But then again, at times their guess is as good as ours.

Then used that extra pick(s) and still get players that can contribute right way.

If they can get 4 or 5 players in the 1st 4 round, and all can contribute in some way. It will be a great draft.
Those late round picks are your development types anyway. Unless they get lucky like all teams.

I don't think it needs to be that extreme you can move down three to four spots don't risk too much by going too far down but I am totally against moving up unless somehow Carter is there one spot up and we think we can get him or a player like him but it's not for the running back or WR.

so, stand pat or move down.

 

[Hardline]

Jeanty is going to the Jags at #5.

 

[Jipper]

For sure don't use 2 picks on 1 rb.

Agree, trade back not up...tons of mid round rbs that can be picked up

 

[blueblood70]

Jeanty is going to the Jags at #5.

I don't think that's the point people are trying to make they're saying if you see him sliding and maybe he's there at 10 two spots from us do you trade up and get him and I say no..

I just believe there's not that big a gap and we could all be wrong and we could all be right because nobody knows what's really going to happen with these players but to me the gap between the four best running backs and the four best wide receivers are so small it makes more sense to trade down or stand pat but I say trade down a couple of spots and still get your targets and extra high draft picks that is the best move for this team...

I think I can only be persuaded to move up one spot or two as if maybe Abdul Carter is there and now you have a chance to get a player at a position that there is the large gap between the top pass rusher and then the other guys... But really for the Cowboys it makes more sense in this draft to stand pat or better yet move down say 3 or 4 spots in the 1st round and pick up an extra 3rd rounder and then maybe in the last three rounds of a draft packaged some of those and moved back into the 4th round and get another running back now you've truly replenished your running backroom for the future...

 

[jazzcat22]

Jeanty is going to the Jags at #5.

Or Raiders at #6.

 

[Ironicalicon]

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/spagnola-time-to-fill-up-the-running-back-tank-again

Another nice article from mickey, straight forward, no company fluff.

Talks about past history of the great Dallas RB's, and a few others.

He is pushing to go get Jeanty. Said if he drops, should they trade a 3rd round to move up to select him.
But also acknowledged the need to fill other holes, and wait on a RB since there is depth. But sure is high on taking Jeanty.

Said a need for a pass rushing DE, but after Carter, there is really no one there at pick 12. So trade down, then they take take one and get an extra pick.

Hell, no to trading up to draft a player who might burn out in 3 or 4 years.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Not a big fan of moving up for Jeanty, but I guess it depends on the price. Looking at last years draft you had 7 of 35 picks that ended up as starters for their team. 4th round had 6 of 35 picks as starters. 5th round had 3 of 40. Round 6 was 1 out of 43 and none were in round 7. Of those rounds zero guys were pro bowlers. The odds of finding true impact players, especially in year 1 are typically pretty slim after the 2nd round.


If the Cowboys could move up a few spots to get him with a quantity over quality package I wouldn't be against it. Maybe #12, a couple day 3 picks, and a 2026 4th type of package. Thats unlikely, but if the trade down market is as rough as some seem to think it will be this year you never know.

 

[blueblood70]

Not a big fan of moving up for Jeanty, but I guess it depends on the price. Looking at last years draft you had 7 of 35 picks that ended up as starters for their team. 4th round had 6 of 35 picks as starters. 5th round had 3 of 40. Round 6 was 1 out of 43 and none were in round 7. Of those rounds zero guys were pro bowlers. The odds of finding true impact players, especially in year 1 are typically pretty slim after the 2nd round.


If the Cowboys could move up a few spots to get him with a quantity over quality package I wouldn't be against it. Maybe #12, a couple day 3 picks, and a 2026 4th type of package. Thats unlikely, but if the trade down market is as rough as some seem to think it will be this year you never know.

Look as much as some of that is true come on let's just say after the 4th round it's tough but the Cowboys themselves have had so many great players in the 3rd round and many in the 4th round ,that we're talking about our scouts, they seem to find really good players in that area ,yes starters & some pro bowlers...

Odds are bad and really all the rounds you can miss in the first round or even the top 10 in the first round just as hard as the third round yes there are bus all over the league that's why guys fall, they get drafted late, or they become undrafted because it's not an exact science...

In my opinion the mistake is having the combined and then all this time to overthink they really need to have this draft in March in my opinion it shouldn't be too far after the combine I mean mock drafts are starting in January and it ramps up in February but it's hitting its peak at the combine there isn't a whole lot left to get your boards ready you don't need that much time..

why not the last week in March or the first week of April?

IMO There'll be a whole lot less waffling and overthinking if you had it sooner.

 

[morasp]

I always enjoy good research.

"Hey, seven of the top 10 running backs this past season, all with at least 1,122 yards rushing, were members of playoff teams. Coincidence?"