What Non-WR 1st pick would upset you?

[cowboybish]

I suppose picking a TE at #12 would be quite annoying.

Tyler Warren might be reach but a hell if a TE

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

TE would be really annoying, especially after the Schoonmaker selection in round 2.

 

[Flamma]

I can't think of anyone I'd be more upset about than Golden at 12.

2nd round talent. We already have that with Tolbert.

Plus, we basically have the same player with Paris Campbell.

Sanders would be worse than Golden at 12.

 

[FanofJerry]

Sanders would be worse than Golden at 12.

But but but Qb, you have to choose in first round...

Can't argue against his production and lack of turnovers...

In a crap shoot position, those two factors are as good as any to roll the dice on a guy

But you can have your own opinion. Most qbs are trash and turnover prone

 

[FanofJerry]

TE would be really annoying, especially after the Schoonmaker selection in round 2.

That Penn state kid looks amazing, though

 

[Gambit]

If we pass on Bo Callahan and end up drafting Vontae Mack and Ray Jennings I will be extremely upset.

Only if we don't get Putney.

 

[Flamma]

But but but Qb, you have to choose in first round...

Can't argue against his production and lack of turnovers...

In a crap shoot position, those two factors are as good as any to roll the dice on a guy

But you can have your own opinion. Most qbs are trash and turnover prone

A lot of the rookie QBs in this draft have an impressive TD to interception ratio. But can they do it in the NFL?

 

[FanofJerry]

A lot of the rookie QBs in this draft have an impressive TD to interception ratio. But can they do it in the NFL?

I'm not a scout, getting nerdy on footwork and minute details is out of my league...

But I will say that I watched a lot of Shedaur(not enough to know if I'm spelling his name correctly!)...

He has been trained to be pass first. He is slow anyway. But seems like he has been counseled enough to agree with his advisors that stand in the pocket is how you succeed at the next level(even if running qbs are a new desire for clubs)...

What I'm getting at is...i have seen him stand in the pocket and take hits like Burrow and make the connection.


He is willing to commit and take a hit instead of bailing, ruining the timing.

Not saying he will succeed, but he has some interesting traits that make him attractive.

I don't think any team wants to deal with his attitude. I don't think social pressure, coaching pressure or any type of shaming works on him...and rightfully so. He's gotta look out for himself.

What's sad is, that last paragraph will equate to an immediate 'no' from most posters

 

[Jimbo123]

A running back....

Because it would show that they simply can't learn feom their own history, nor feom other teams history.

Jeanty is not in the class of Bjan Robinson. Where are the Falcons?

Jeanty isn't Saquon Barkley. What did Saquon do for a bad Giants team? He only made a huge difference once he joined a team with one of the best rosters top to bottom in league history. We don't have that. WE need to do what the Eagles did: build the trenches until you can dominate both lines of scrimmage, THEN add the final pieces lime a RB here or a LB or safety there. DONT EAT DESSERT UNTIL YOU'VE EATEN THE MEAT AND TATERS!!!!

We have a team in our own freaking division giving us the blueprint for success!!!! But watch Jerry TRADE UP for Jeanty.

 

[Jimbo123]

Why? A stud DT could put us in the super bowl. A stud RB would improve us more than any WR, especially in this draft.

A stud DT would get you third in the East.

 

[Flamma]

I'm not a scout, getting nerdy on footwork and minute details is out of my league...

But I will say that I watched a lot of Shedaur(not enough to know if I'm spelling his name correctly!)...

He has been trained to be pass first. He is slow anyway. But seems like he has been counseled enough to agree with his advisors that stand in the pocket is how you succeed at the next level(even if running qbs are a new desire for clubs)...

What I'm getting at is...i have seen him stand in the pocket and take hits like Burrow and make the connection.


He is willing to commit and take a hit instead of bailing, ruining the timing.

Not saying he will succeed, but he has some interesting traits that make him attractive.

I don't think any team wants to deal with his attitude. I don't think social pressure, coaching pressure or any type of shaming works on him...and rightfully so. He's gotta look out for himself.

What's sad is, that last paragraph will equate to an immediate 'no' from most posters

Well, can't ask much more from a QB if that's the case. Lets hope the Giants don't take him. Just in case. But the Cowboys have no use for him. We got Dak for at least 3 more years. Sanders would be wasted here.

 

[FanofJerry]

Well, can't ask much more from a QB if that's the case. Lets hope the Giants don't take him. Just in case. But the Cowboys have no use for him. We got Dak for at least 3 more years. Sanders would be wasted here.

That's fair.

I guess you could argue he had Hunter taking up a defenses resources, and they had that other WR that was fast and produced...don't know his name.

My very amateur scouting of Shedaur is he has some interesting traits. But I know real scouts get super nerdy with it.

 

[Flamma]

That's fair.

I guess you could argue he had Hunter taking up a defenses resources, and they had that other WR that was fast and produced...don't know his name.

My very amateur scouting of Shedaur is he has some interesting traits. But I know real scouts get super nerdy with it.

You're not kidding. Half the times I don't know what they're talking about. Or how they come to the conclusions they do.

 

[atlantacowboy]

The only thing that would upset me is taking a WR or RB. Those are just not positions we need this high in the draft. We have a legit #1 WR and finding a "Robin" for CD's Batman at #12 makes no sense. But this is Jerry Jones so it wouldn't surprise me.

The draft is deep at RB as well so no point picking a RB at 12 either. We NEED a DT. We NEED a LB. We NEED a CB. We NEED OL help. There will be lots of choices at those positions at 12.

 

[Rayman70]

Myckell Williams

 

[FanofJerry]

You're not kidding. Half the times I don't know what they're talking about. Or how they come to the conclusions they do.

They have the meat and potatoes down I think, tackles need long arms and good footwork, corners need good hip transition, so on and so forth...

But getting super intricate and nerdy could blind you from players. My opinion. Especially at qb.

It's a competitive industry with tons of information flowing from thousands of coaches...so I don't know what I'm talking about.

Getting overly nerdy seems to be a vulnerability

 

[mcmvp]

RB or QB

I'm uneducated on the draft depth and how study vs starters there are...

But I guess if Jeanty is so highly touted and there at 12 you take him.

Not a fan. But is a team need, he is being called generational.

Hate devaluing a player, but RBs are a dime a dozen. Ideally would prefer using the pick on a different expensive position assuming the player is considered a day one starter and significantly better than what we currently have.

No, they aren’t.

That does not mean I feel they are a slam dunk target in round one of the draft. But saying they are a dime a dozen is probably the most overused and inaccurate sayings there is…

 

[kskboys]

A stud DT would get you third in the East.

The face palm thing is so juvenile. Especially seeing that you have no answer.

Stud DTs get you in the super bowl. That's how this works, unless you're a numbbrain, I guess.

 

[kskboys]

No, they aren’t.

That does not mean I feel they are a slam dunk target in round one of the draft. But saying they are a dime a dozen is probably the most overused and inaccurate sayings there is…

It's really a dumb saying.

Couple years ago I checked, and I think it was 26 of the starting 32 Rbs in the NFL came from rounds 1 and 2.

 

[FanofJerry]

No, they aren’t.

That does not mean I feel they are a slam dunk target in round one of the draft. But saying they are a dime a dozen is probably the most overused and inaccurate sayings there is…

Last 20 years of GMs disagree, and as a casual, so do I.

Their tendencies seem to get figured out quickly in today's game.

I'll be honest, saquan doesn't seem all that special to me. I like Pacheco personally, but have no idea about his blocking or hands.

Unless there is a thoroughbred, muscle freak that has an all around game...there just doesn't seem to be a big difference in rbs, imo.

Defenses are fast and gang tackle now a days. Blocking and hands are more important than the running position. There are certain characteristics like zeke, Marion barber, dude from raiders...that fought for extra yards well...but other than guys like that....who stands out?

No one really. Jukes aren't as effective anymore, speed isn't a factor really...there just isn't much a rb can do to make a significant difference