Does this draft immediately make us closer to the eagles/commanders?

[kskboys]

Which has nothing to do with the Giants, and which further is further proof that we don’t really know. But it is fair to point out Eagles & Commanders weren’t playing with Cooper Rush at QB.

Of course, but we were 3-5 w/ Dak, who was looking awful.

 

[Mr_437]

No.
Last year, the FO let most of the depth and borderline starters walk in FA without replacing them. Now, instead of adding to a roster the Cowboys are too busy filling holes that are almost impossible to fill with a bunch of 5th to 7th round picks.

Cowboys have to sign some veteran FAs or just take their medicine and realize they screwed up and this is a rebuild, which it is.

 

[stilltheguru]

You can't tell until camp/regular season. If every draft pick hits then yeah. It's too many things to take into account before answering this. That's the only logical answer

 

[quickccc]

Early take on our draft is most of the guys we got are really good football players. The guys from rounds 1-3 will all either start or have big impact almost immediately. The Day 3 guys are ok on paper… BUT I can’t say that this draft has immediately put this team in a better position to compete with the eagles and commanders. I Just can’t.

Don’t get me wrong, I like the guys we drafted in rounds 1-3.

• 1st rounder Tyler Booker is a plug and play beast at G, I wish they could’ve traded down a couple spots to pick up a 4th rounder, but still a solid pick. A high character guy who was a captain at Alabama.
• 2nd round DE Donovan Ezeiruaku is a very talented pass rusher. EZ is also a high character guy who was also a team captain at Boston College.
• 3rd round CB Shavon Revel is a first round talent recovering from a knee injury. Where have we heard that before? Hopefully he’s fully recovered by Sept.

No problem really with those guys as far as their talent. They should contribute immediately. But if we are all being honest without the blue tinted fan glasses, the Cowboys STILL have glaring weaknesses at WR, RB and DT, three positions they badly needed an influx of top shelf talent.

So on Day 3 we acquired:

• 5th round RB Jaydon Blue and he’s fast but he’s also small and not more than 8-10 touches a game guy who has had fumble issues. Are we better at RB? Hmmm….
• 5th round traded up to get Florida LB Shemar James. A talented kid if not a little small. Seems a lot like last year’s 3rd round pick Marist Liafau.
• 6th round picked up T Ajani Cornelius from Oregon. Backup swing T was not on my bingo card as a pressing need.
• 7th round got UCLA DT Jay Toia, a big aggressive DT. But does this late sleeper suddenly make Mazi Smith a bad memory?

Like all drafts we need to wait on grading the 2025 Cowboys draft for at least a year; probably more like two years. Starting immediately, fans and the media will issue grades now but we really won’t know until pads are on and the real bullets fly in the regular season.

But if I am answering the question, “Did this draft get us closer to the eagles and commanders?” I would have to say no at this point.

I say no.

- Where is the impact RB that we needed to significantly help Dak - relieve great pressure off our starting RB, the way Barkley did for Hurts, and Henry did for Jackson,.
Even a James Cook was a big help addition to Josh Allen in '24.. and are we hoping that with late round draftee Blue ?

- Also we really needed a Robin to our batman with a WR2 for Lamb,.. but our FO is content and pipe dreaming that WR2 will be 4th rd tradee Mingo.
The Cowboys new RB unit still doesn't scare me or have a top defense have to game plan for it ..
Aside from Lamb, who really are our gameday threats ? .. Mingo ? Tolbert ?.. Fournoy ?..Turpin ?

- And TE Fergy will have to be re-set as a threat to opposing defenses, but it doesn't speak volume for a starting TE to have zero TDs.

- Washington- Still doesn;'t have that impact fear opposing RB to help QB Daniels imo. And i haven't seen enuff big upgrade additions to the defense to catch the Iggles,
they will have to scheme gimmick Deebo for him factor, imo. as a traditional WR, he's close to being average.
But QB Daniels, and a competent coach staff, they are still scrappy enuff to hold us at bay.

- It's Eagles that will be the repellent to us.
They already have a smothering SB caliber defense - they made it a mission to add depth and reload upon it.
We have to deal with Barkley and that OL,.. and we have to deal with that Eagles Defense- what impact upgrades have we made to say we've pulled closer
within a couple of steps vs Eagles ?

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[Rayman70]

And that’s the big problem with the ‘draft only’ strategy…..the other teams get to draft also.

Dallas isn’t awful at it, but nowhere near good enough to blow off free agency every single year.

It’s shameful because a couple of those MM/Quinn teams had a real shot if they added even just like two veteran starters. Refuse to find the money for Wagner then use safeties at LB behind undersized DTs? Come on. Now they need this draft to pan out along with at least the next one to even get back to that point….and what does the QB room look like at that point?

There just never seems to be a plan or direction. Always all over the place.

Agree. It's ego, complancey

 

[CCBoy]

I say no.

- Where is the impact RB that we needed to significantly help Dak - relieve great pressure off our starting RB, the way Barkley did for Hurts, and Henry did for Jackson,.
Even a James Cook was a big help addition to Josh Allen in '24.. and are we hoping that with late round draftee Blue ?

- Also we really needed a Robin to our batman with a WR2 for Lamb,.. but our FO is content and pipe dreaming that WR2 will be 4th rd tradee Mingo.
The Cowboys new RB unit still doesn't scare me or have a top defense have to game plan for it ..
Aside from Lamb, who really are our gameday threats ? .. Mingo ? Tolbert ?.. Fournoy ?..Turpin ?

- And TE Fergy will have to be re-set as a threat to opposing defenses, but it doesn't speak volume for a starting TE to have zero TDs.

- Washington- Still doesn;'t have that impact fear opposing RB to help QB Daniels imo. And i haven't seen enuff big upgrade additions to the defense to catch the Iggles,
they will have to scheme gimmick Deebo for him factor, imo. as a traditional WR, he's close to being average.
But QB Daniels, and a competent coach staff, they are still scrappy enuff to hold us at bay.

- It's Eagles that will be the repellent to us.
They already have a smothering SB caliber defense - they made it a mission to add depth and reload upon it.
We have to deal with Barkley and that OL,.. and we have to deal with that Eagles Defense- what impact upgrades have we made to say we've pulled closer
within a couple of steps vs Eagles ?

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One doesn't have to be a Senior to save on car insurance. Manage it, even with injuries...but that Coach is gone.

 

[fivetwos]

Agree. It's ego, complancey

True, but we should leave room for the ‘in way over their head’ reality.

Just because you can make billions in the business world doesn’t qualify you to successfully build a winning NFL roster.

Don’t go telling them that though.

 

[Rockport]

Early take on our draft is most of the guys we got are really good football players. The guys from rounds 1-3 will all either start or have big impact almost immediately. The Day 3 guys are ok on paper… BUT I can’t say that this draft has immediately put this team in a better position to compete with the eagles and commanders. I Just can’t.

Don’t get me wrong, I like the guys we drafted in rounds 1-3.

• 1st rounder Tyler Booker is a plug and play beast at G, I wish they could’ve traded down a couple spots to pick up a 4th rounder, but still a solid pick. A high character guy who was a captain at Alabama.
• 2nd round DE Donovan Ezeiruaku is a very talented pass rusher. EZ is also a high character guy who was also a team captain at Boston College.
• 3rd round CB Shavon Revel is a first round talent recovering from a knee injury. Where have we heard that before? Hopefully he’s fully recovered by Sept.

No problem really with those guys as far as their talent. They should contribute immediately. But if we are all being honest without the blue tinted fan glasses, the Cowboys STILL have glaring weaknesses at WR, RB and DT, three positions they badly needed an influx of top shelf talent.

So on Day 3 we acquired:

• 5th round RB Jaydon Blue and he’s fast but he’s also small and not more than 8-10 touches a game guy who has had fumble issues. Are we better at RB? Hmmm….
• 5th round traded up to get Florida LB Shemar James. A talented kid if not a little small. Seems a lot like last year’s 3rd round pick Marist Liafau.
• 6th round picked up T Ajani Cornelius from Oregon. Backup swing T was not on my bingo card as a pressing need.
• 7th round got UCLA DT Jay Toia, a big aggressive DT. But does this late sleeper suddenly make Mazi Smith a bad memory?

Like all drafts we need to wait on grading the 2025 Cowboys draft for at least a year; probably more like two years. Starting immediately, fans and the media will issue grades now but we really won’t know until pads are on and the real bullets fly in the regular season.

But if I am answering the question, “Did this draft get us closer to the eagles and commanders?” I would have to say no at this point.

If Barkley goes down or regresses the Eagirls are toast. We already can compete with the Deadskins.

 

[LonnieElam]

The Cowboys have the best pass rush in the the NFC East and the second best offensive line.

Did you not watch the eagles molest mahomes the entire game rushing only 4?

 

[acr731]

The Giants passed us up.

We have the worst roster in the division.

No worries, Dak is going to lead the team to the promised land. Unfortunately, the promised land for Dak is at the bottom of a deep well.

 

[Rockport]

No worries, Dak is going to lead the team to the promised land. Unfortunately, the promised land for Dak is at the bottom of a deep well.

 

[acr731]

Straight to the PUP list.........

 

[baltcowboy]

Did you not watch the eagles molest mahomes the entire game rushing only 4?

3 of those guys aren’t with the Eagles anymore. Last year’s championship team is different from this years. This Eagles are legit no doubt but Parsons, Osa, Fowler, ect can play with anyone.

 

[CTcowboy203]

And my point is what have we done in 29 years to think things will be any different?
So far the commanders are going about things the right way. Us????

They had 1 season where they did things the right way…it’s not about us. It’s about them not having enough of a sample size to just say they run things the right way

 

[plasticman]

No, not immediately. It does have the potential to do so in the future.

The overall infusion of talent and youth means that the Cowboys could peak just as the Eagles talent pool is declining.

The Cowboys have many emerging stars whereas most of the Eagles key players are at or above their prime years.

Everything that comes up must come down eventually and in competitive sports, that leads to the rise of another.

Unfortunately for the Cowboys, Washington seems to be on a steeper trajectory to the degree that that the effect of both of their drafts will probably be of little consequence.

Having said that, how relevant is an increase in talent compared to the disparity in management and coaching?

The difference in talent level cannot be incremental for the Cowboys to rule the NFC East. They are playing with a handicap that has a 30-year record of being insurmountable.

 

[Bobhaze]

No, not immediately. It does have the potential to do so in the future.

The overall infusion of talent and youth means that the Cowboys could peak just as the Eagles talent pool is declining.

The Cowboys have many emerging stars whereas most of the Eagles key players are at or above their prime years.

Everything that comes up must come down eventually and in competitive sports, that leads to the rise of another.

Unfortunately for the Cowboys, Washington seems to be on a steeper trajectory to the degree that that the effect of both of their drafts will probably be of little consequence.

Having said that, how relevant is an increase in talent compared to the disparity in management and coaching?

The difference in talent level cannot be incremental for the Cowboys to rule the NFC East. They are playing with a handicap that has a 30-year record of being insurmountable.

Outstanding post.

I think the Cowboys got better. The frustrating part is our lack of FA additions that could really make difference. We have drafted fairly well most years, especially early in the draft. But we also know the draft alone is never enough.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Which has nothing to do with the Giants, and which further is further proof that we don’t really know. But it is fair to point out Eagles & Commanders weren’t playing with Cooper Rush at QB.

It’s fair to say they’re playing with Hurts and Daniels at QB this season.

 

[KingCorcoran]

No, not immediately. It does have the potential to do so in the future.

The overall infusion of talent and youth means that the Cowboys could peak just as the Eagles talent pool is declining.

The Cowboys have many emerging stars whereas most of the Eagles key players are at or above their prime years.

Everything that comes up must come down eventually and in competitive sports, that leads to the rise of another.

Unfortunately for the Cowboys, Washington seems to be on a steeper trajectory to the degree that that the effect of both of their drafts will probably be of little consequence.

Having said that, how relevant is an increase in talent compared to the disparity in management and coaching?

The difference in talent level cannot be incremental for the Cowboys to rule the NFC East. They are playing with a handicap that has a 30-year record of being insurmountable.

The Eagles starting defense was last season and is this season the youngest in the NFL. They have yet to reach their “prime”.

 

[DUO_CORE]

Only if we build a new stadium a few miles to the north and east.

 

[fivetwos]

No, not immediately. It does have the potential to do so in the future.

The overall infusion of talent and youth means that the Cowboys could peak just as the Eagles talent pool is declining.

The Cowboys have many emerging stars whereas most of the Eagles key players are at or above their prime years.

Everything that comes up must come down eventually and in competitive sports, that leads to the rise of another.

Unfortunately for the Cowboys, Washington seems to be on a steeper trajectory to the degree that that the effect of both of their drafts will probably be of little consequence.

Having said that, how relevant is an increase in talent compared to the disparity in management and coaching?

The difference in talent level cannot be incremental for the Cowboys to rule the NFC East. They are playing with a handicap that has a 30-year record of being insurmountable.

Well yeah, if the Cowboys go on a 2-3 year rebuild thing they ought to be much better around the time when Philly has to make their “tough decisions”

Yeah….like where to safely keep their rings, but different discussion.

What I ask is what the Dallas QB room looks like by that time. Is Dak in a wheelchair or not quite? Did he figure out all the rest that need not be repeated?

Their unwillingness to properly do a rebuild will make it fall short. Half measures don’t generally work but Jerry wants to be a celebrity, so they can’t be awful for a year or three. No Netflix specials in that case.

One day it’s “all-in,” then they do nothing.

At the SB Jerry said he wouldn’t have signed Prescott if it wasn’t about winning now….then says this draft was about getting things done over the next 2-3 years.

All over the map with every bit of it.