Cowboys reporters saying what Broncos fans heard about Javonte Williams

gimmesix said:
Interesting info/commentary about Javonte Williams. One of the most interesting things to me is that the writer says the Broncos ranked No. 1 in run-block win rate.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...avonte-williams/ar-AA1GPnK5?ocid=BingNewsSerp
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Wasn’t there another one of these maybe 5-6 weeks back that said he faced stacked boxes more than any other back over the first 6 weeks or so… something like 67%?
In the end I think his main function is to hold the fort until the rookies are up to speed and they’re comfortable with them in pass protection!
 
Rockport said:
I really don’t have any expectations of Williams. I’m hoping that a new team and the urgency of proving himself will propel him to work his *** off getting ready for the season.

Every Super Bowl team has stories like this. Players with low expectations show up and have a great year. Usually more than one. That’s what it takes.
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Likewise and I'm not sure he makes the team, but we'll see. I just hope we don't keep the guy because he's a veteran over someone else that showed similar results but is just a younger player.
 
Take a trips around the league's team websites and you will see all the same optimism we often read about the Cowboys. Every team has players in the best shape of their lives, every team has a new coach who will turn their mediocre players into stars, every team is going to win 11 or more games. This year will be different for all of the losers.

There are always players who have not been very good, but somehow will be better because they are playing for Dallas, a team that hasn't won a championship in 30 years. For some reason, our minimum wage players are going to give us a huge boost.

It feels good to have high hopes, but then the season begins and all warts are clearly visible.

Williams is making $3 million for a reason. He is not going to become a star because he is playing in Dallas. We hope he can just replace Rico Dowdle. If he struggled running behind Denver's OL, why would we think he will be better running behind Dallas's? The article mentions his lack of vision, one of the most important attributes of a RB. That's not something a RB develops over time.

If the Cowboys are going to be a superior running team, we have to hope Blue and Mafah emerge. I don't think Williams and Sanders are the answer.
 
Rico started last year. He had a fair chance. Obviously the front office thinks we can do better with others. Can't fault that. Let's not pretend losing Rico is a big deal. That's ridiculous.
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
The objective to me should’ve been to get better than Rico. I don’t know if they did that but they at least went after someone with a higher ceiling.

Just something about Rico…like I liked the guy I just want better. He was just steady. Just good enough. I want someone who can potentially have a ceiling game or 150 yards. Rico had a high floor however.
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If you think Williams is that guy this makes sense. I think he was that guy pre-injury but hasn't been since.
 
i want to i told you so but even i will say let's wait till TC to see how good or bad he is after 2 years after ACL surgery.
 
charron said:
Hope Williams shows more than recent years but I'd have just brought back Rico. Similar money and short contract and Rico ran well as the year went on and the blocking got better.
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Yet a problem with Rico though you can pretty much hand a guy the ball that much and most average NFL running backs can get and do what he did he almost broke no big plays, he's not dynamic in any way, he had two total touchdowns in one of them it looked like it took him 5 seconds to bobble the ball around on an easy catch.. He also had the fumble that could have lost the game hadn't Prescott not saw it and went after it I mean I know these are little things, so he had one catching touchdown in one running touchdown and before this contract year which by the way is a big red flag he did absolutely nothing but not show up and be injured...


I think the coaching staff made this decision they probably watched a lot of film and realized this guy is a diamond dozen and they rather let the new draft picks, and the two free ages battle it out and camp and let the best running back by committee develop.

And by the way I don't think this is done I think if they don't like what they see in training camp and somewhat the first or 2nd preseason game you do realize that the cut downs there's an awful lot of good players being cut off teams like they may not be great players but they can find themselves with a good running back that got lost in the numbers the cap casualty of other teams that are loaded at running back like they got way too many running backs they're trying to move well some of those guys are going to get cut because we can see guys get cut I saw Deandre Hopkins get cut from the Cardinals there's other guys with big names that still had plenty of tread on their tires that just flat out get released.... We've seen it in the last couple of weeks geyser being cut good players are being cut and there will be more out on the street before the season starts and I believe if they're uncomfortable with the running backs they will go get one...​

Rico is the least of my worries he was not the biggest loss of the offseason he wasn't even my top 5 I mean literally letting Lewis go might be the worst one because of the position is so in flux right now with injuries and unknowns but not at running back what he did was not special it was one year if this did this for three years and we let him go I might be a little more worried but it was a contract year and it was a solid year no doubt but I'm not losing any sleep letting him go...

In hindsight though I would rather picked up Nick Chubb over one of these guys in Sanders or Williams and I'm not sure why the Cowboys wouldn't do it I'd rather see if Nick Chubb bounces back than Devante Williams but no way Rico is in my wish list that I wish we would not have let him go...
 
fivetwos said:
Rarely am I going to applaud the way this front office handled much of anything, but for some reason I can see Williams and Blue being a capable combo.
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Not sure what lead you to that conclusion, but you do you.
 
charron said:
That is a huge if. But I thought Rico had the better year last year except Williams obviously had more success getting TD's.
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Yeah that's a more important scoring bigger plays impact plays anybody can see that if you hand the ball to a running back enough and he stays healthy he can do what Rico did rico is not dynamic he didn't break any big plays he couldn't score touchdowns it's his only Goodyear in the NFL it's a contract year it's a red flag and people who seem to be upset like somehow we're going to rule the day we let Rico go it's laughable to me..

Don't get me wrong I like the guy i'd have been okay with them keeping him but it's no big loss..

I'm betting there's a guy on this roster right now that can do that it may be mafah it's going to be a running back by committee but the way that guy ran in college he easily could turn into a better version of Rico just hanging the ball enough that's what it is a mislead the guys who are short yardage chain movers that are not that dynamic you could replace easily you just have to commit to running the ball with them and then you have a guy like blue or Sanders or combination come in and give you the bigger place that's the way it should be that's what we were lacking last year...

But I don't know I just sneaker II keeps thinking about it like people are 0 my God we lost Rico it's over.... I believe the coaching staff made this decision they watched film they know what they had in Rico and they decided to go in another direction....

I would have easily kept Lewis and or a guy like Gholston were bigger losses.. Truly looking at what the Cowboys lost and who they replaced them with it's not that big a deal i'd say Lewis is the only loss I'd be concerned about...
 
Rico had 1,328 yards from scrimmage.
Rico averaged 4.6 yards per carry.
Rico had 5 TDs (2 rushing, 3 receiving)

Everyone knows Zeke was getting the redzone carries, and if not Rico probably would've had more rushing TDs. To cherry pick Rico's TD production to attempt to discredit him is silly and football dumb.
 
Javonte Williams lacking vision and being a slower runner is a terrible combination. These RBs aren't good, but that hopium is thick right now. Cowboys need to look outside the building for a couple RBs, but maybe this is the plan for a reason.
 
gimmesix said:
Interesting info/commentary about Javonte Williams. One of the most interesting things to me is that the writer says the Broncos ranked No. 1 in run-block win rate.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...avonte-williams/ar-AA1GPnK5?ocid=BingNewsSerp
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Story means nothing what do you think he's just going to get the job here they're going to watch him carefully in practice and in preseason games if he doesn't show anything he'll be cut it won't be a big deal the man is not going to hang around on this team if he doesn't earn his spot so it doesn't matter what he did or didn't do in Denver it only matters what he does here in practice and scrimmages and preseason games they're going to know whether this guy's got anything to offer if he doesn't he's an easy cut IMHO

I can see a scenario where both the free agents we brought in are cut and that the two draft picks out play them and earn the job and then they will bring in another running back on cut downs there's going to be a lot of good running backs let go that can be your veteran presence in the running back room it's not a big deal none of this is a big deal everyone talking about Oh my god we lost Rico blah blah blah...

I believe the draft picks alone I'm not worried about I think they're going to be better than advertised they have young fresh legs and there'll be another veteran running back cut off a team there's a lot of teams loaded at running back and they're not going to be keeping all their running backs... An example might be a guy like I don't know Pierce in Houston I mean there are guys that'll be cut...

Those are some trade rumors pierce Breece Hall they might get let go for a cup of coffee..

The Cowboys were worried they would have went out and got Nick Chubb, but I also think they are not set on keeping one of these guys, so they'll go out and replace them...
 
Mr_437 said:
Rico had 1,328 yards from scrimmage.
Rico averaged 4.6 yards per carry.
Rico had 5 TDs (2 rushing, 3 receiving)

Everyone knows Zeke was getting the redzone carries, and if not Rico probably would've had more rushing TDs. To cherry pick Rico's TD production to attempt to discredit him is silly and football dumb.
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He didn't get retained because the coaches agree, And there's nothing more to say that hasn't already been said but I'll make a point again if they didn't see his value why should we agree with you because you're not the professional here it has nothing to do with money because they spent the same amount of money on the other free agent running backs apparently he didn't fit their plan because he's not dynamic that's why.... He's a solid player but we can get that out of the draft picks in my opinion we could get his production out of running back by committee one of those guys are going to rise to the top it's not hard to do what he did last year....



no one's cherry picking anything the guys not dynamic, that's it most of us see, it he's easily replaceable, most of us see it, but most important thing is the coaches saw it they could have retained him if they'd have went to Jerry and said we really need this guy on the team because he cost about the same right so it had nothing to do with money he was let go and not retain the same way Kendrick was not they didn't think he fit what they want to do here..

He had one good year, that's it it was last year that's a red flag when your contract years your only Good year in your career and you're not dynamic he's not special this is the same thing that the Cowboys do with guys like Dalton Schultz people think they're stupid for letting him go but I'm look at what he's not doing in Houston for the money he makes the Cowboys were correct sometimes you just got to let go and move on to the next guy and hope for something better....​

I like the guy but that doesn't mean you're correct in your evaluation because I'll trust and again I'm going to keep saying this you're not a coach you don't work for the NFL, you're not on the Dallas Cowboys staff, those guys are pretty experienced and if they chose not to go to Jerry and ask for this guy and beg for him to be on the team then I'm going to trust their evaluation...​
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that they spend about the same amount of money on the other free agent running backs that means there's something they didn't like about Rico, if he cost the same, and they let him go it wasn't about money. they made an evaluation that apparently you don't understand or agree with, but it don't matter because I'll trust the professional who see the same things I see...​


Again, you're not the coach you're not a talent evaluator they are they chose not to keep him that's the only important part of this debate you're not going to win..

I agree with the coaches and the coaches and the front office no more than you they've been working with this guy for like 4 years they know what they had and didn't have he's not a big loss he's easily replaceable they see it I see it but somehow you don't we're supposed to agree with you over the coaches in the front office?
 
charron said:
If you think Williams is that guy this makes sense. I think he was that guy pre-injury but hasn't been since.
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I don’t think Williams is but I question if maybe the Cowboys do since he’s now 2 years removed from the injury. I think we will struggle running honestly.
 
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