Can we rebuild defense before Dak is done?

[kskboys]

Do they make plays when we need them, look at our red zone scoring, and also when we play tough teams, who is that play maker that we can go to in times of need (yes there's Pickens and Lamb) i'll give you that

Impossible to tell w/ this OLE' Defense. We should be good enough on O to make a super bowl run if we can form a top 5 D.

 

[Aven8]

Cowboys are in need of basically a total rebuild on defense. We need arguably 2 starting CB, 2 Safeties, a couple LB’s and at least 1 edge rusher. Thats being optimistic.

So how many years will that take ? Even if we were to hit on both 1st round picks this year that only fills 2 spots . Maybe . Again , being very optimistic. And that’s assuming we use both picks on defense.

We currently have no second day picks so doubtful much more immediate starters in 2026 draft on defense. 2027 at best assuming we use both early picks on defense maybe 2 more Day 1 starters.

In 2 years filling 4 starting positions on defense would be optimal. Unless of course we are aggressive in FA and hit on a couple defenders. 2028 we could possibly finish out the rebuild on defense. Maybe begin to be an outlier playoff contender assuming offense is still in tact.

Where will we be on Daks contract in 2028? And where will this offense be in a couple years. I tend to think Jethro screwed himself again. He’ll waste some of Daks most seasoned and experienced years rebuilding defense.

in 2028 after potentially 4 consecutive missed playoff seasons will we be prepared to extend Dak again or begin to look for our future bringing young blood at QB to go with a rebuilt defense?

In Mike Nolan’s season in 2020 our D ranked 28th in points allowed. The following season DQ came in in 2021 and improved the scoring D to 7th in the league.

It can happen rather quickly if they commit to it.

 

[kskboys]

Unless you’ve accumulated a ton of draft picks and hit on nearly all of them at least two years in a row, it’s nearly impossible to have a solid player at every position.

It’s up to coaching/scheme to overcome that, which is where this team usually falls short….and there’s one mans ego to blame.

Of course. However, when you only have 2 solid players on your entire D, no coaching/scheme will overcome that. This team fell short on talent on D, and yes, it is on one man, the GM.

 

[kskboys]

In Mike Nolan’s season in 2020 our D ranked 28th in points allowed. The following season DQ came in in 2021 and improved the scoring D to 7th in the league.

It can happen rather quickly if they commit to it.

You got to add in that we drafted Parsons and added some actual S's. And Andy Dalton was the starter most of the year. We ran the ball profusely in 22.

If DQ is so great, then why was WASH's D worse than ours last season?

 

[fivetwos]

Of course. However, when you only have 2 solid players on your entire D, no coaching/scheme will overcome that. This team fell short on talent on D, and yes, it is on one man, the GM.

Sadly true, although I’d say they have 4-5 solid players on defense, not nearly enough, but somewhere to start at least. If they actually open the checkbook and don’t blow the draft, AND Parker is a miracle worker, there’s a shot at….well, nevermind, probably not lol.

The OP is one excellent point though. Jerry doesn’t seem to mind throwing seasons away, or is he just really that inept?

 

[Kwyn]

Considering we likely have six more years of Dak, if expect that’s time enough to build a defense

 

[Aven8]

You got to add in that we drafted Parsons and added some actual S's. And Andy Dalton was the starter most of the year. We ran the ball profusely in 22.

If DQ is so great, then why was WASH's D worse than ours last season?

Getting QW was an amazing get and although not the pass rusher Micah is, dominant in his own right. DQ had nothing but success while he was here outside of the GB debacle. My point is with the right mix and coaching it can turn around quickly in this league.

 

[Diehardblues]

In Mike Nolan’s season in 2020 our D ranked 28th in points allowed. The following season DQ came in in 2021 and improved the scoring D to 7th in the league.

It can happen rather quickly if they commit to it.

Scoring D can be misleading sometimes as scoring can come from different aspects and impacted by turnovers, etc.

I’d be more curious what those two Total Team D rankings were in comparison?
Which Team D is official ranking.

 

[Diehardblues]

He said the exact opposite a week ago.

I don’t take him at his word. Do you?

Actions speak louder than words. We’ll see.

 

[Diehardblues]

You may get part of your answer over the next two months before the draft. If it’s business as usual, the answer is likely no. They do not have the time.

Jethro has been attempting to appease to critics but actions will speak loudest.

 

[Hadenough]

Are you talking about the same Cooper Rush that has been in the league one year less than Dak and has spent most of his career bouncing on and off of practice squads?

The same Cooper Rush that threw like 3, 4 interceptions vs an Eagles franchise that Dak led Cowboys teams have a winning record against?

The same Cooper Rush that barely averages 140 yards per game passing?

If you believe Rush is capable of winning games as a starter regularly, why haven't 31 other GMs and coaching staffs watched the same film you've watched? Rush has been in the league for 10 years now. Why hasn't he secured a max contract and starting job yet?

Do yourself a favor and stop putting Cooper Rush name in the same sentence of other quarterbacks who have been perennial top ten quarterbacks, who have become an All-Pro and MVP candidate.

Cooper Rush is not capable of doing any of those things.

Thats like me comparing Drew Henson to Tony Romo. Im not sure why people feel comfortable making statements that make them look totally ridiculous and uninformed to real life facts and occurrences.

The same Cooper Rush that beat both teams that were in the SB the year before. Rams and Bengals. And you guys tried to make a big deal out it when Dak did it last season.

 

[vig454]

DAK NEVER GOT STARTED!

 

[GINeric]

The same Cooper Rush that beat both teams that were in the SB the year before. Rams and Bengals. And you guys tried to make a big deal out it when Dak did it last season.

I commend Rush for what he contributed, but he's nowhere near the level of quarterbacking as Dak and never will be.

If you can't tell me if Rush is capable of being top 10, capable of becoming an All-Pro and capable of being in MVP considerations before then it sounds pretty dumb to mention in the same sentences as a quarterback who has.

Thats all im saying. If Rush was good, he'd be starting somewhere with a max contract. But he isn't. He's been in the league for 10 years now.

And for the record, the Cowboys came back from being 21 points down and beat the reigning Superbowl champions. Dak was part of that effort as well, he was not the only one who made that comeback happen.

Rush on his best day wasn't capable of helping the team to pull that off.

 

[diamonddelts]

Cowboys are in need of basically a total rebuild on defense. We need arguably 2 starting CB, 2 Safeties, a couple LB’s and at least 1 edge rusher. Thats being optimistic.

So how many years will that take ? Even if we were to hit on both 1st round picks this year that only fills 2 spots . Maybe . Again , being very optimistic. And that’s assuming we use both picks on defense.

We currently have no second day picks so doubtful much more immediate starters in 2026 draft on defense. 2027 at best assuming we use both early picks on defense maybe 2 more Day 1 starters.

In 2 years filling 4 starting positions on defense would be optimal. Unless of course we are aggressive in FA and hit on a couple defenders. 2028 we could possibly finish out the rebuild on defense. Maybe begin to be an outlier playoff contender assuming offense is still in tact.

Where will we be on Daks contract in 2028? And where will this offense be in a couple years. I tend to think Jethro screwed himself again. He’ll waste some of Daks most seasoned and experienced years rebuilding defense.

in 2028 after potentially 4 consecutive missed playoff seasons will we be prepared to extend Dak again or begin to look for our future bringing young blood at QB to go with a rebuilt defense?

Jerry has not built a premium top 5 defense in 30 years as GM. But sure let's theorize on if he can do it in 2 years or less.

 

[kskboys]

Sadly true, although I’d say they have 4-5 solid players on defense, not nearly enough, but somewhere to start at least. If they actually open the checkbook and don’t blow the draft, AND Parker is a miracle worker, there’s a shot at….well, nevermind, probably not lol.

The OP is one excellent point though. Jerry doesn’t seem to mind throwing seasons away, or is he just really that inept?

4-5? Who?

O got Q and possibly Osa. Who else would you call solid? EZ might be headed that way.

 

[fivetwos]

4-5? Who?

O got Q and possibly Osa. Who else would you call solid? EZ might be headed that way.

Yep. Clark has to be on that list.

Bland has had his issues but if healthy he has to be as well. Overshown also.

Debatable yeah. It’s splitting hairs really but I’d call it closer to 4-5 than 2-3. JMO, and I’m far from the eternal optimist lol.

 

[kskboys]

Yep. Clark has to be on that list.

Bland has had his issues but if healthy he has to be as well. Overshown also.

Debatable yeah. It’s splitting hairs really but I’d call it closer to 4-5 than 2-3. JMO, and I’m far from the eternal optimist lol.

Clark is most likely gone. We're not going to pay him 21 mil.

No idea on Bland. Overshown can't stay on the field.

Anyway, we have a long way to go.

 

[fivetwos]

Clark is most likely gone. We're not going to pay him 21 mil.

No idea on Bland. Overshown can't stay on the field.

Anyway, we have a long way to go.

If they let go of Clark just to save the salary it was monumentally dumb to ask for him instead of an additional day two pick.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Considering we likely have six more years of Dak, if expect that’s time enough to build a defense

You're willing to give Dak six more years, even if we stay mediocre? That's why teams should draft at QB more often, 16 years for a QB that doesn't contribute in the the playoffs on a mediocre team is as foolish as keeping Jason Garrett as Head Coach for 10 years, at some point.

 

[Diehardblues]

Clark is most likely gone. We're not going to pay him 21 mil.

No idea on Bland. Overshown can't stay on the field.

Anyway, we have a long way to go.

Looks like Cowboys are going to give Overshown the opportunity at least one more season. He showed too much promise 2 years ago before horrific injury which could turn out to be too much to overcome.

And if Bland can recover from foot injuries the same could imply . It would certainly reduce as much talent as we need to insert on defense . He and Revel could be our starting CB. Then focus on Safety in draft with 1st round. And 2nd 1st round pick edge rusher and or LB.

Certainly agree on Clark. Williams should be enough to build around. And let’s resign Clowney.

That all looks more promising than what we have. And possibly enough to begin the rebuild if we hit on draft picks . Maybe find whatever we don’t in draft in FA. Like more LB and another Safety.