Twitter: Dak Prescott's place in Cowboys QB History

OGSixshooter said:
Dak's Place in Cowboy's History:

Rings:
Troy: 3
Roger: 2
Dak: Not even a conference championship APPEARANCE

Stat Prescott plays in a pass happy era with 5 more games per season than Roger....

LOL LOL LOL
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The number keys on your keyboard appear to be blank after the word Rings...lol. Not even the 0.00 works
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
Cowboys have given Dak names but never “players”. Micah was a name and the playoffs start and he’s a no name.

Name and star power has never been the problem.

Lack of toughness, lack of physicality, lack of dawgs….

We will see this year…people didn’t like the names because they weren’t big names but they got some dawgs and players who don’t take plays off.
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Yeah, you're right, I mean Tyron Smith wasn't all-decade, Martin wasn't all-decade, Fredrick wasn't a repeated all-pro until he was forced to retire, Tyler Smith isn't a 3 time Probowler and all-pro. He didn't have a running back who led the league in rushing multiple times early in his career. Has been given basically a WR 1 and 1A every year because he needs it (the need to trade for Cooper when he couldn't function without one highlights that). Lamb has been a 3-time All-Pro in 6 years, and we constantly want to blame him. With all that, I am wondering what your take is on Dak's toughness, physicality, and whether he is a "dawg". There were too many drives where the "team" took plays off and three-and-outed repeatedly. Too many, who has the ball on every one of those? For a decade, we have spent 50% more on the offense versus the defense to make it function the way it has. Facts.

Is this all on Dak? No, but after 10 years, you cannot say it has simply been in spite of him at this point, as you repeatedly do.

Dak isn't part of the problem, but he hasn't been part of the solution either.
 
irishline said:
Yeah, you're right, I mean Tyron Smith wasn't all-decade, Martin wasn't all-decade, Fredrick wasn't a repeated all-pro until he was forced to retire, Tyler Smith isn't a 3 time Probowler and all-pro. He didn't have a running back who led the league in rushing multiple times early in his career. Has been given basically a WR 1 and 1A every year because he needs it (the need to trade for Cooper when he couldn't function without one highlights that). Lamb has been a 3-time All-Pro in 6 years, and we constantly want to blame him. With all that, I am wondering what your take is on Dak's toughness, physicality, and whether he is a "dawg". There were too many drives where the "team" took plays off and three-and-outed repeatedly. Too many, who has the ball on every one of those? For a decade, we have spent 50% more on the offense versus the defense to make it function the way it has. Facts.

Is this all on Dak? No, but after 10 years, you cannot say it has simply been in spite of him at this point, as you repeatedly do.

Dak isn't part of the problem, but he hasn't been part of the solution either.
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lol...oh, that is going to sting the Rabbit Hole Master right back into his hole!
 
shabazz said:
In the final analysis its the story of two talented but flawed QBs with the same "GM"
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I'm not sure that's a requirement.....no "flawed" QB went to or won the SB...ever?

The GM has given Dak some prime tools...on offense anyway. We've had some "decent' defenses...last year we were SCREAMING for "average" we've surely had that at least a couple years.

I'm pretty much okay with most things about the team..even no SB (last years defense excepted). What I despise is the WAY we did "2-5" (sorry shab!). The won loss ratio is miniscule to the WAY we got 2-5. I don't see how that's all on Jerry. Good enough to get INTO the playoffs...and then the players ship themselves?
 
OGSixshooter said:
Dak: Not even a conference championship APPEARANCE
Stats Prescott plays in a pass happy era with 5 more games per season than Roger....
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Don't forget the extreme protections that todays QB's have that Troy and Roger didn't have.

Troy and Roger had shortened careers because of injuries, mostly frequent concussions. Dak isn't going to have to deal with the same thing and could easily play another 5 or 6 years.
 
irishline said:
Yeah, you're right, I mean Tyron Smith wasn't all-decade, Martin wasn't all-decade, Fredrick wasn't a repeated all-pro until he was forced to retire, Tyler Smith isn't a 3 time Probowler and all-pro. He didn't have a running back who led the league in rushing multiple times early in his career. Has been given basically a WR 1 and 1A every year because he needs it (the need to trade for Cooper when he couldn't function without one highlights that). Lamb has been a 3-time All-Pro in 6 years, and we constantly want to blame him. With all that, I am wondering what your take is on Dak's toughness, physicality, and whether he is a "dawg". There were too many drives where the "team" took plays off and three-and-outed repeatedly. Too many, who has the ball on every one of those? For a decade, we have spent 50% more on the offense versus the defense to make it function the way it has. Facts.

Is this all on Dak? No, but after 10 years, you cannot say it has simply been in spite of him at this point, as you repeatedly do.

Dak isn't part of the problem, but he hasn't been part of the solution either.
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I never said it’s in spite of him. I actually say the opposite. He is why they haven’t had more success. Not solely. But yes he contributes to why they haven’t won. Ultimately he’s not good or hasn’t been good enough to win especially for a Jerry led team.

Romo wasn’t either. Whether that’s on Romo or Dak or Jerry is debatable.

I didn’t get to experience the 70s Cowboys and I was too young to really understand the 90s Cowboys.

But from 2000 to 2026 I’ve followed football religiously. I’ve seen what bad teams do and what good teams do.

I have never seen teams win the way the Cowboys have tried to. Even you listing off all of these great offensive linemen….ive never seen a team use so many 1st rounders on offensive linemen and completely ignore the opposite side of the interior defensive line.

I’ve never seen a team just hire any head coach and not take it serious.

I’ve never seen a soft team win a SB.

Never seen a non physical team win a SB.

I can go down the list of things I’ve seen teams do to win that the Cowboys don’t do.

So yeah we can rattle off millions of names….ill never deny they do a good job with names.

But look at the last few champions…go see how many have players like Kenneth Murray at linebacker or Mazi Smith and Trysten Hill at defensive tackle…..you’ll see why it’s been 30 years….and 30 years predates Dak and Romo….even Quincy…..that’s Aikman territory….
 
12+88=7 said:
Roger Staubach is the #1 QB in Dallas history. And no stats will ever change that.

Troy has more SB wins and is #2.
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Yep. He and Troy each have a dozen playoff wins and five rings to show for their time here. No basketball on grass stats will change that.
 
1. Roger
2. Romo
3. Troy
4. Meredith
5. White
6. Dak

Circumstances can greatly dictate success, but you have to play well in big games against real contenders, win or lose.

Dak doesn't do that like the others.

Stats mean less than nothing. They're irrelevant.
 
erod said:
1. Roger
2. Romo
3. Troy
4. Meredith
5. White
6. Dak

Circumstances can greatly dictate success, but you have to play well in big games against real contenders, win or lose.

Dak doesn't do that like the others.

Stars mean less than nothing. They're irrelevant.
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But Romo doesn’t have a history of playing well in big games or even playing in many to begin with so why is he ahead of Troy?
 
irishline said:
Yeah, you're right, I mean Tyron Smith wasn't all-decade, Martin wasn't all-decade, Fredrick wasn't a repeated all-pro until he was forced to retire, Tyler Smith isn't a 3 time Probowler and all-pro. He didn't have a running back who led the league in rushing multiple times early in his career. Has been given basically a WR 1 and 1A every year because he needs it (the need to trade for Cooper when he couldn't function without one highlights that). Lamb has been a 3-time All-Pro in 6 years, and we constantly want to blame him. With all that, I am wondering what your take is on Dak's toughness, physicality, and whether he is a "dawg". There were too many drives where the "team" took plays off and three-and-outed repeatedly. Too many, who has the ball on every one of those? For a decade, we have spent 50% more on the offense versus the defense to make it function the way it has. Facts.

Is this all on Dak? No, but after 10 years, you cannot say it has simply been in spite of him at this point, as you repeatedly do.

Dak isn't part of the problem, but he hasn't been part of the solution either.
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Notice the framing: Dak must be given all these ingredients and pieces...and only then can we judge him? NONSENSE. Dak was coddled and AIDED by those weapons...it's not like Dak came in as a college champion, blue chip talent or even with astounding measurables. He's a try-hard, do-good mid QB whose intangibles are supposed to set him apart. Too bad he has deep trauma and chokes in pressure moments. Not sure how this QB must be "given" anything.

And then there's the fact that when you look at it...Dak has been given TONS OF TALENT!!! He's got 2 all pro WRs...but that's not enough for TheBSContinues.
 
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