OL has been dominant running the ball

[Parcells4Life]

 

[acer941]

You know I haven’t posted on here in a while, but I still look through the forum every now & then. But when I seen this post I had to reply...

Because one thing that really aggravates me from the last game is the run game, or lack there of.

It’s not because lack of production but lack of commitment!!

If you go back and watch that game and you will see that the cowboys passed the ball on 1st down 80% of the time! But the times they ran it on first down they consistently got good yards, that was also when Zeke broke a couple decent runs.

But what did the cowboys do? They went right back to the pass game or never even tried to run it. Zeke has 13 Carries midway through the 3rd quarter... 13 Carries!!!

2016-2017 year when we went 13-3.. what did the cowboys do?

They ran to set up the pass! There was even talk about if we were running Zeke too much... but what did we do? We Won!!

It’s so simple that it’s driving me mad!!

 

[acer941]

Oh one thing i’d Like to add, that should be simple football knowledge to our coaches. Is that when you lack playmakers at the WR position and don’t think you have a star QB, your game plan should be to pound the opposing defense to make them tired and less motivated so that those passing lanes will open up...

Especially when you have the tools to do it.

Carolina - Zeke 16 Runs, 69yards, 4.6 AVG. 1TD

Giants - Zeke 17 Runs, 78yards, 4.6, 1TD

Seahawks - Zeke 16 Runs, 127yards, 7.9 0TD

Stats do not lie gentlemen..

 

[Parcells4Life]

To be fair against Carolina they ran it every first down and they were waiting for them. Throwing it on first down is more of a tendency breaker than anything else.

The reason Zeke only had 13 carries is because the team can’t sustain drives. How many drives have there been when the team got 3+ 1st downs in the same drive?

Off the top of my head I can recall 2 vs the Giants, 2 vs Panthers maybe 2 vs Seattle.

Hard to get a lot of carries when you can’t stay on the field. It’s not practical to think they can run it 40 times for 200 yards. The passing game has to be able to pick up 3rd and 6-8. That’s what set this team apart for years when the offense was rolling.

 

[The Quest for Six]

Oh one thing i’d Like to add, that should be simple football knowledge to our coaches. Is that when you lack playmakers at the WR position and don’t think you have a star QB, your game plan should be to pound the opposing defense to make them tired and less motivated so that those passing lanes will open up...

Especially when you have the tools to do it.

Carolina - Zeke 16 Runs, 69yards, 4.6 AVG. 1TD

Giants - Zeke 17 Runs, 78yards, 4.6, 1TD

Seahawks - Zeke 16 Runs, 127yards, 7.9 0TD

Stats do not lie gentlemen..

Here's the key stat, the cowboys were 3 for13 on third down conversions Sunday .......

 

[CATCH17]

@AdamJT13 would tell us that this stat doesn't mean much and passing efficiency is what wins.

 

[gmoney112]

The running game has been abysmal when we needed it.

 

[acer941]

To be fair against Carolina they ran it every first down and they were waiting for them. Throwing it on first down is more of a tendency breaker than anything else.

The reason Zeke only had 13 carries is because the team can’t sustain drives. How many drives have there been when the team got 3+ 1st downs in the same drive?

Off the top of my head I can recall 2 vs the Giants, 2 vs Panthers maybe 2 vs Seattle.

Hard to get a lot of carries when you can’t stay on the field. It’s not practical to think they can run it 40 times for 200 yards. The passing game has to be able to pick up 3rd and 6-8. That’s what set this team apart for years when the offense was rolling.

They wouldn’t have 3rd and 6+, if they ran it more than once on a drive. What I’ve noticed is, run it once Mostly on first down then go to 5wr’s, or pass it to the TE short.

If they would commit to the run, and run it more often than they do, then that feeds into the play action working, CB’s and Safety’s looking into the backfield. It also helps alleviate the pain of the rushers..

A good example is Seattle from this last game. Their RB had a ton of runs with not many yards. But did u see what it did to our defense? It gassed them out, and made them think when they shouldn’t.

 

[Bobhaze]

The running game has been abysmal when we needed it.

This.
Look, the rushing numbers through 3 games are very misleading. In the Seattle game, a ton of Zeke’s yards were 1. when we were behind by 14 and their D was in “prevent” mode, 2. One of Zeke’s runs in Sea was 25 yards followed by a fumble, which negates those 25 yards. 3. This team so far this season has averaged less than 3 yards a rush on first down.

We shouldn’t kid ourselves. When you take out the “junk yards” while facing dime packages because we’re behind two scores, this running game is really average at best.

 

[acer941]

The running game has been abysmal when we needed it.

Can you please give me an example of this? If your talking about at the immediate beginning of the game? Most defense are pumped up and full of steam, a lot of teams struggle then to assert their run game. No team, no matter who they are can run 5+ yards every run. If you go back and watch our 13-3 year we started out 70% of our games slow to establish the run. It picked up in the 3rd and 4th QTR after zeke has 18+ carry’s.

I mean theirs even a stat that showed that we were like Double or maybe even triple the amount of Wins over losses when zeke has 20+ carry’s.

 

[Dre11]

The running game has been abysmal when we needed it.

Exactly.

 

[Dre11]

@AdamJT13 would tell us that this stat doesn't mean much and passing efficiency is what wins.

The numbers are inflated, the run game had 1 good game, Seattle and then add Dak option runs vs Giants, Austins sweeps.

 

[WhizKid]

You know I haven’t posted on here in a while, but I still look through the forum every now & then. But when I seen this post I had to reply...

Because one thing that really aggravates me from the last game is the run game, or lack there of.

It’s not because lack of production but lack of commitment!!

If you go back and watch that game and you will see that the cowboys passed the ball on 1st down 80% of the time! But the times they ran it on first down they consistently got good yards, that was also when Zeke broke a couple decent runs.

But what did the cowboys do? They went right back to the pass game or never even tried to run it. Zeke has 13 Carries midway through the 3rd quarter... 13 Carries!!!

2016-2017 year when we went 13-3.. what did the cowboys do?

They ran to set up the pass! There was even talk about if we were running Zeke too much... but what did we do? We Won!!

It’s so simple that it’s driving me mad!!

It's definitely a commitment problem. If they would understand who they are and stick to it, other parts of the game should open up (play-action, RPO).

 

[acer941]

Seriously?!

Please do me a favor! take it As me begging you if you have to! Go to ESPN and then go to our game’s Play by Play and look at our first quarter drives and Zeke’s Runs! Then tell me if my statements have any backing or not.

They are not crazy numbers but positive yards of 3 -5 yards on first down. Is the perfect set up for any drive! Hell we lived off of that in 2016-2017

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Oh one thing i’d Like to add, that should be simple football knowledge to our coaches. Is that when you lack playmakers at the WR position and don’t think you have a star QB, your game plan should be to pound the opposing defense to make them tired and less motivated so that those passing lanes will open up...

Especially when you have the tools to do it.

Carolina - Zeke 16 Runs, 69yards, 4.6 AVG. 1TD

Giants - Zeke 17 Runs, 78yards, 4.6, 1TD

Seahawks - Zeke 16 Runs, 127yards, 7.9 0TD

Stats do not lie gentlemen..

I did a break down of the runs in the three games. keep in mind Zeke ran 17 times against giants, but Dak had a few runs and so did Austin. Also, we have been on pace to give Zeke 20-25 runs a game through first three quarters, but given we have been behind two games in the 4th by two scores, we abandon the run. so zeke is losing carries there. Also, I did a breakdown of run/pass for first and 2nd downs. we have run more on first downs than passed. we are about 50/50 on second downs regardless of down and distance, but have abandoned the run on 3rd downs. most of the 3rd downs are 3 and 7 and more and that explains why we are passing. keep in mind that some of Zeke's runs come on third downs and 4th quarter and we just haven't had opportunities. Against the giants, we ran more in the 4th quarter.

 

[Dre11]

Seriously?!

Please do me a favor! take it As me begging you if you have to! Go to ESPN and then go to our game’s Play by Play and look at our first quarter drives and Zeke’s Runs! Then tell me if my statements have any backing or not.

They are not crazy numbers but positive yards of 3 -5 yards on first down. Is the perfect set up for any drive! Hell we lived off of that in 2016-2017

All of Zeke's first half runs, i watched all of them a second time.


The first series he was dropped for a 2 yard loss on 3rd and 1
2nd series. 2 nod down Gallop pops ball up for int. Zeke got 7 on 1st down
3rd series 1st down run 3 yards, 2 nd down pass for 4, 3rd down drop. Running into kicker
1st down overthrow to gallop, 2nd down 1 yard gain on run, 3rd and 9 pressure and overthrow.
4th series 1st down tried bootleg off Fake to Zeke, Sack lost of 10, 2 nd 20 Zeke 11 on draw, 3rd 9 drop by Zeke.
5th series 1st down Zeke for 17 , 1st down 3 yards Zeke , 2nd down incomplete, 3rd down 7 18 yards to Beasley on crossing route, 1st down 3 yards Zeke, 2nd down no gain to Zeke, penalty Dallas, 2nd 12 10 yard to Hurns, 3 drops down Elliott steps out, TD came back, fg
6rh series, 1:52 till half on 25 1st down sack, 2nd down screen to Elliott no gain,3rd down 17 screen to Elliott 8 yards ,punt

 

[Rogerthat12]

Running the ball well is meaningless without scoring points.

 

[charron]

Stats don't tell the whole story otherwise we would be moving the ball much more consistently. We have about 2 good drives per game, most often we are going 3 and out and being stuffed well short of a 1st down wether running or passing.

 

[acer941]

Running the ball well is meaningless without scoring points.

We have one playmaker on this offense, no matter how you look at it. We only have one. Austin is to inconsistent to be counted, Beasley only makes routine catches he should make.

Zeke is the one guy we have that can break a game for us and if used right he could open the play-action which can be lethal to defense. I honestly see it as our only option, i may be pushing on points on that you don’t see eye to eye on me with. But this is the only way I can see us salvaging this season.

 

[Romotil45]

You know I haven’t posted on here in a while, but I still look through the forum every now & then. But when I seen this post I had to reply...

Because one thing that really aggravates me from the last game is the run game, or lack there of.

It’s not because lack of production but lack of commitment!!

If you go back and watch that game and you will see that the cowboys passed the ball on 1st down 80% of the time! But the times they ran it on first down they consistently got good yards, that was also when Zeke broke a couple decent runs.

But what did the cowboys do? They went right back to the pass game or never even tried to run it. Zeke has 13 Carries midway through the 3rd quarter... 13 Carries!!!

2016-2017 year when we went 13-3.. what did the cowboys do?

They ran to set up the pass! There was even talk about if we were running Zeke too much... but what did we do? We Won!!

It’s so simple that it’s driving me mad!!

Yeah unfortunately the goal in my opinion is to tank and this is one example of it. Zeke is the type of player that can take over a game so we are limiting his touches. We need to loose one more game than the giants to get Justin Herbert. GO COWBOYS you can do it. If we don't get Justin Herbert we will be in QB hell for the foreseeable future.