Dak’s third down rating

[keysersoze]

Because a lot of it is his fault.

My point exactly. That’s your personal opinion

 

[PAPPYDOG]

That’s 4 positions sir. Can we address those 4 using free agency AND the draft?

Why not other GM do.......its called wheeling and dealing unfortunately our GM is also the owner and not a football man....

 

[Techsass]

Let’s talk about that Oline

Look at the Oline go.

I'm not questioning the numbers, but I'm assuming we're looking at different weeks?

Never mind. I just now noticed the time stamps. At least we're trending upwards.

 

[HowardC]

I guess you were in the cradle in 2016. 2017 was an anomaly.

We have all seen the regression of Dak. It is not a myth or delusion. Like I said, 1 game...

 

[HowardC]

My point exactly. That’s your personal opinion

Not an opinion. You must be blind. Dak has been skittish in the pocket at times and his awareness has been lacking. There have also been times where he has ran right into sacks.

 

[Rockport]

We have all seen the regression of Dak. It is not a myth or delusion. Like I said, 1 game...

We all haven’t seen the regression of Dak. We have seen the regression of the offense. Arm chair QB’s like yourself are unable to understand that and take the simplistic route and just blame the QB.

 

[LocimusPrime]

I'm not questioning the numbers, but I'm assuming we're looking at different weeks?

Never mind. I just now noticed the time stamps. At least we're trending upwards.

Yes it's a positive upward trend. I like it. Hope we keep improving.

 

[percyhoward]

When Dak refuses to throw the dammed ball he going to be pressured. The OL can only block for so long before they start having to hold.

I think all 3 sacks against the Lions were on Dak (one was just running out of bounds and losing a yard, on the other two he ran himself into pressure). Here's how John Owning described the 11 sacks of Dak in the previous 3 games:

5 sacks: offensive lineman got beat

2 sacks: Dallas failed to pick up the blitz

2 sacks: Prescott vacated a clean pocket to run into pressure

1 sack: Collins and Martin failed to properly pass off a stunt

1 sack: Barkevious Mingo sniffed out Dallas' play-action bootleg

Over that same 3-game period, PFF attributes 4 sacks to Prescott, and 1 each to Williams and Collins. That leaves 5 sacks that PFF doesn't account for at all in those three games.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Someone said that dropped passes rating can't be true. Well here's another site that supports it

Transactions
NFL Team Leaderboards: Receiving

Receiving Categories: NFL | NFC | AFC

NFL Passes Dropped
Rank Team Passes Dropped
1 Cleveland Browns 10
2 Minnesota Vikings 10
3 Philadelphia Eagles 10
4 Green Bay Packers 9
5 Oakland Raiders 9
6 Cincinnati Bengals 8
7 Jacksonville Jaguars 8
8 Denver Broncos 7
9 Tennessee Titans 7
10 Buffalo Bills 6
11 Indianapolis Colts 6
12 Baltimore Ravens 6
13 Detroit Lions 5
14 Kansas City Chiefs 5
15 New England Patriots 5
16 New Orleans Saints 5
17 Los Angeles Chargers 5
18 Carolina Panthers 5
19 Houston Texans 4
20 Arizona Cardinals 4
21 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 4
22 New York Giants 3
23 New York Jets 3
24 San Francisco 49ers 3
25 Seattle Seahawks 3
26 Chicago Bears 2
27 Miami Dolphins 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers 2
29 Atlanta Falcons 1
30 Dallas Cowboys 1
31

 

[LocimusPrime]

Safe to say since two different credible sites have the cowboys as one of the teams with the least amount of dropped passes, there's gotta be something to it

 

[Jake]

I’m hoping this will improve after a few more games!
We shall see, got my fingers crossed

A big part of third down ranking depends on what you do the first two downs, but those names are hard to ignore. Dak's in bad company.

Folks, we seem to spend a lot of time trying to convince ourselves that Dak is a "franchise QB", when the reality is you know you have one when you see it. No rationalizations are necessary. Unfortunately, it appears the Jones boys are convinced he is one much like Jerry thinks JG is going to be Tom Landry. They just need a few more years to prove it.

Thankfully, college football is on tomorrow. Go Bucks!

 

[ClintDagger]

I’ve thought the drops excuse was overblown and it appears that’s true.

 

[LocimusPrime]

For those who question the Eli vs Dak third down stat from ESPN Try this one. It’s only for the NFC

FL Leaders
Type:
Passing:
NFL | NFC | AFC

%1st Dwn/Pass Att, 3rd & 3-7
Rank Name Team Stats
1 E. Manning NYG 65.0 ( 13/20 )
2 A. Rodgers GB 61.5 ( 8/13 )
3t R. Fitzpatrick TB 60.0 ( 9/15 )
3t J. Goff LAR 60.0 ( 9/15 )
5t C. Newton Car 57.1 ( 8/14 )
5t M. Trubisky Chi 57.1 ( 8/14 )
7 K. Cousins Min 55.6 ( 15/27 )
8 D. Brees NO 54.5 ( 6/11 )
9 M. Ryan Atl 52.9 ( 9/17 )
10t C. Wentz Phi 50.0 ( 5/10 )
10t J. Garoppolo SF 50.0 ( 4/8 )
12 M. Stafford Det 43.5 ( 10/23 )
13 N. Foles Phi 37.5 ( 3/8 )
14 D. Prescott Dal 33.3 ( 4/12 )
15t S. Bradford Ari 30.8 ( 4/13 )
15t A. Smith Was 30.8 ( 4/13 )
17 R. Wilson Sea 29.4 ( 5/17 )
© 2018 by STATS.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Here’s third and long for the NFC only


Leaders
Type:
Passing:
NFL | NFC | AFC

%1st Dwn/Pass Att, 3rd & 8+
Rank Name Team Stats
1 M. Stafford Det 50.0 ( 5/10 )
2 M. Ryan Atl 36.8 ( 7/19 )
3t K. Cousins Min 35.7 ( 5/14 )
3t J. Goff LAR 35.7 ( 5/14 )
5 R. Wilson Sea 28.6 ( 4/14 )
6 A. Rodgers GB 25.0 ( 6/24 )
7 C. Wentz Phi 22.2 ( 2/9 )
8 E. Manning NYG 18.8 ( 3/16 )
9t N. Foles Phi 18.2 ( 2/11 )
9t A. Smith Was 18.2 ( 2/11 )
9t M. Trubisky Chi 18.2 ( 2/11 )
12 C. Newton Car 16.7 ( 1/6 )
13 R. Fitzpatrick TB 15.4 ( 2/13 )
14 S. Bradford Ari 14.3 ( 1/7 )
15 D. Brees NO 13.3 ( 2/15 )
16 D. Prescott Dal 12.5 ( 2/16 )
17 J. Garoppolo SF

 

[keysersoze]

Not an opinion. You must be blind. Dak has been skittish in the pocket at times and his awareness has been lacking. There have also been times where he has ran right into sacks.

And there’s been plenty of times the Oline failed to to its job. Too many times Dak has been under pressure from the snap. Let’s just be real here. Dak has had enough trouble on his own accord without you blaming him for things he cannot control. Fact of the matter is that our Oline is no longer superior as it once was.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Top OT blockers

Rob Havenstein LAR 110 96%
2 Andrew Whitworth LAR 112 93%
3 Taylor Lewan TEN 75 90%
4 David Bakhtiari GB 156 89%
5 Tyron Smith DAL 123 88%
6 Trent Williams WAS 99 88%
7 Dion Dawkins BUF 142 87%
8 Ryan Ramczyk NO 146 87%
9 Duane Brown SEA 129 87%
10 Josh Wells JAX 122 87%

 

[jobberone]

Dak does need to run more and throw out of the pocket.

 

[LocimusPrime]

This isn't a defensive thread but




Go cowboys

 

[FTWayne]

Dak's QBR for the season is not great, hope this improves... he's #26 btw.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

26 isn't bad, no where to go but up. well I guess he could go down 6 spots.

 

[LocimusPrime]