Are there actions you think the team should take to be less predictable?

[Reverend Conehead]

My concern is that the Rams were able to predict our offense and thus counter with the ideal defensive schemes to stop out offense. I wondered if the team should hire a specialist who studies the team to find tendencies and game plans based on them. Then the offense uses those very tendencies to be less predictable. For example, display a tendency that indicates a run and then do playaction. That's just one example.

What are the ways a team should go about being less predictable? I know in some cases, you know what you're going to do, they know it, and you just want to outplay them. However, in other cases, it can help to keep them guessing. I know throughout the season a lot of people complained about our offense being to predictable. What could or should the team do about it?

 

[Miller]

I've had this same thought since Dak Year 1 but if they are going to take anything from the old Pats I'd mix in hurry up out of the blue. Dak does well at the end of the halfs running it and I believe he is a much better passer out of the pocket. I know it goes against our philosophy but chaos in our offense seems to work...when things break down. Let's say its your second possession of the second quarter and it's 7-7...run hurry up through half with some designed Dak runs, roll outs, etc. I think top Ds or the ones that do their homework sit on our team. Even if we own time of possession I don't feel we are wearing teams out because I don't think they get gassed. We need to use Dak and Zeke to do that and to make Ds blow wind the 2nd half. Picking up the pace does this and gets our guys into a flow. We talked about how the Pats are great at using their strengths and building around what they have. We don't.

 

[charron]

My concern is that the Rams were able to predict our offense and thus counter with the ideal defensive schemes to stop out offense. I wondered if the team should hire a specialist who studies the team to find tendencies and game plans based on them. Then the offense uses those very tendencies to be less predictable. For example, display a tendency that indicates a run and then do playaction. That's just one example.

What are the ways a team should go about being less predictable? I know in some cases, you know what you're going to do, they know it, and you just want to outplay them. However, in other cases, it can help to keep them guessing. I know throughout the season a lot of people complained about our offense being to predictable. What could or should the team do about it?

it's much less about scheme as it is about when to call which plays you want and being able to do call multiple plays from the same few formations. We all look at the rams and say they do all these things, but really it's very simple. Get in 11 personnel and run 6 plays out of 1 formation all game long with a few variations on each.

 

[Whyjerry]

My concern is that the Rams were able to predict our offense and thus counter with the ideal defensive schemes to stop out offense. I wondered if the team should hire a specialist who studies the team to find tendencies and game plans based on them. Then the offense uses those very tendencies to be less predictable. For example, display a tendency that indicates a run and then do playaction. That's just one example.

What are the ways a team should go about being less predictable? I know in some cases, you know what you're going to do, they know it, and you just want to outplay them. However, in other cases, it can help to keep them guessing. I know throughout the season a lot of people complained about our offense being to predictable. What could or should the team do about it?

For starters hire a new head coach.

 

[ItzKelz]

Fire the OC/play caller?

 

[Beaker42]

My concern is that the Rams were able to predict our offense and thus counter with the ideal defensive schemes to stop out offense. I wondered if the team should hire a specialist who studies the team to find tendencies and game plans based on them. Then the offense uses those very tendencies to be less predictable. For example, display a tendency that indicates a run and then do playaction. That's just one example.

What are the ways a team should go about being less predictable? I know in some cases, you know what you're going to do, they know it, and you just want to outplay them. However, in other cases, it can help to keep them guessing. I know throughout the season a lot of people complained about our offense being to predictable. What could or should the team do about it?

Fire Garrett!!! Hope I’m the first get this in.



EDIT - ****** 3 mins too late.

 

[Roadtrip635]

All teams self scout, some do a better job at it than others and it's also more important to some teams than others. We have often relied on simply manhandling, out executing or simply our guy beats their man strategy instead of creating mismatches and forcing defenses to make choices. Part of problem is personnel packages we use that tip defenses off. There are also many type formations and plays we rarely use like bunch or stacked sets, very little motion, rarely attack the middle of the field, our deep passes are always down the sidelines, we never run a deep post or corner or deep crosses.

 

[ShortRound]

oh I don't know ... get a new coach maybe,

 

[visionary]

My concern is that the Rams were able to predict our offense and thus counter with the ideal defensive schemes to stop out offense. I wondered if the team should hire a specialist who studies the team to find tendencies and game plans based on them. Then the offense uses those very tendencies to be less predictable. For example, display a tendency that indicates a run and then do playaction. That's just one example.

What are the ways a team should go about being less predictable? I know in some cases, you know what you're going to do, they know it, and you just want to outplay them. However, in other cases, it can help to keep them guessing. I know throughout the season a lot of people complained about our offense being to predictable. What could or should the team do about it?

Ummm....
That is what a good HC and OC are supposed to do

What is next?
Hire a butt washer for Garrett because he doesn't know when he crapped in his pants

 

[Runwildboys]

Fire the OC/play caller?

I just went back in time and got rid of Linehan and made Moore the OC..........That's right, Kellen Moore.

..............Oh, and I'm thinking about going back and bringing in John Kitna as the QB coach...........Done!

 

[ClappingCarrot]

The problem is at the top of the coaching staff. Garrett is predictable in almost everything he does - and what goes on on the football field isn't any different.

 

[Captain-Crash]

maybe we just don't have a qb that threatens the defense.. only so much you can do with a "checkdown charlie"

 

[conner01]

it's much less about scheme as it is about when to call which plays you want and being able to do call multiple plays from the same few formations. We all look at the rams and say they do all these things, but really it's very simple. Get in 11 personnel and run 6 plays out of 1 formation all game long with a few variations on each.

Mixing in different plays from same formation is huge and creates less predictable offense
Mix in some no huddle which is easier if you aren’t changing players so much
Run more out of 4 wide sets, use motion to not only get receivers open but it gives you a tell on the coverage too

 

[Runwildboys]

The problem is at the top of the coaching staff. Garrett is predictable in almost everything he does - and what goes on on the football field isn't any different.

Blame Garrett, but he wasn't the play caller.

 

[CATCH17]

Same thing I said over a decade ago. Get rid of Garrett.

 

[xwalker]

My concern is that the Rams were able to predict our offense and thus counter with the ideal defensive schemes to stop out offense. I wondered if the team should hire a specialist who studies the team to find tendencies and game plans based on them. Then the offense uses those very tendencies to be less predictable. For example, display a tendency that indicates a run and then do playaction. That's just one example.

What are the ways a team should go about being less predictable? I know in some cases, you know what you're going to do, they know it, and you just want to outplay them. However, in other cases, it can help to keep them guessing. I know throughout the season a lot of people complained about our offense being to predictable. What could or should the team do about it?

Assign all plays a number.

Then use a random number generator on a phone/tablet to call plays.

It would be impossible to predict plays if they used it on all plays in all games.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Ummm....
That is what a good HC and OC are supposed to do

What is next?
Hire a butt washer for Garrett because he doesn't know when he crapped in his pants

We could buy a bidet for him. That literally is a butt washer.

 

[CouchCoach]

Ya know that title they used to have when all the others were taken? What they need is a Quality Control Coach. A coach doing what the other coaches are doing, looking for patterns and tendencies that can be exploited. There obviously are some patterns and tendencies displayed in the past which aided coaches in a predictive pattern. Whether that continues remains to be seen. Want to beat the enemy? Look at yourself the way the enemy does.

 

[charron]

Mixing in different plays from same formation is huge and creates less predictable offense
Mix in some no huddle which is easier if you aren’t changing players so much
Run more out of 4 wide sets, use motion to not only get receivers open but it gives you a tell on the coverage too

Linehan did some things I liked by moving Brown around in the slot, in the backfield etc but just didn't do much with him there. The olawale play was good but poor execution. One of the things I heard was Dak admitting he couldn't remember who the main receiver was or hot receiver at the beginning of the season when it was all "by committee" approach. McVays system works cause it is the same plays over an over which is easier on a young QB. With zeke in the backfield you can hand it to him, run play fake, quick screen, qb designed run, and then get creative with your route combo's based on how defenses like to line up. Gotta figure out what Dak is comfortable throwing. He struggles hitting guys down the sideline but he certainly hit jarwin up the middle easy enough, run it, exploit it etc.

 

[GenoT]

Be less predictable?

3.5 seasons of Garrett as OC, followed by 8.5 seasons of Garrett as HC indicated change is needed.

Until that happens, no amount of different play-callers, new schemes/looks, dipsy-doodle, fake or trick plays will get this team over the hump.