Salary Cap fact versus fiction

jterrell

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So with Tavon Austin we are +1 on retaining talent via free agency. That's not counting losing Terrence Williams and David Irving (complete non-factors in 2018).

So is it your argument that we have gained on the Rams? A net gain of Christian Covington and our 2nd round pick versus a net loss of Roger Saffold plus the Rams 1st round pick?
My point is you can't use the Pats and Rams as examples of teams that sign Free Agents based on 1 season in their history.
Neither of those teams have signed a premium FA this year AT ALL.

Dallas shouldn't worry about any other team, they should worry about themselves.
Maximize talent by using their money properly and not stupidly on short term gains.

They tried that for a decade and failed marvelously.
 

KingintheNorth

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The Pats will cut many of those fringe guys to get com picks for the top guys they lost.
You don't get comp picks for players you cut.

The Patriots have mastered the off-season. They have been an elite team for two decades.

The Cowboys are pretending to duplicate the Patriots but leaving out essential strategies used by the Patriots. We have been a slightly above average team for the past two decades. We're also on our third or fourth "strategy" in that span.
 

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That's fair and time will be the ultimate judge, but seeing how we have not been able to lure any significant free agents to sign for less than market value and the free agents we have signed (Carroll, Thornton, Paea, Mayowa, etc) have been mostly bad, it appears stubborn is the leader in the clubhouse.
We’ve had some good FA’s as well you conviently left out, Cooper, McFadden, Looney.
 

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Meaningless post.
Every team participates in free agency.
Some focus mor eon their own guys, some on lower end cheap guys, some go try to win the off-season by signing the biggest names.

Good teams do VERY little of the latter.

And no one has ever suggested the Cowboys win the offseason.

The Cowboys focus on signing their own and then bargain barrel fishing for slop players.

Spending a bit of cash to grab a good mid-level FA or two to fix a hole is precisely what this team should do.

They simply have a flawed outlook on how to use FA.
 

jterrell

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You don't get comp picks for players you cut.

The Patriots have mastered the off-season. They have been an elite team for two decades.

The Cowboys are pretending to duplicate the Patriots but leaving out essential strategies used by the Patriots. We have been a slightly above average team for the past two decades. We're also on our third or fourth "strategy" in that span.
good lord... you get comp pick for net FA loss/gain.
if you cut the guy he doesn't count you.
the fringe players they signed in FA will be earmarked as expendable to protect 4th and 5th round comp picks.
see D.Thompson last year in DAL.

NE is very unlikely to sign a bunch of budget guys then let those guys go unrewarded with com picks for guys they pay 2m a year to.
In another words they will end up with a net loss almost certainly.
DAL's big loss was Beasley who is likely not worth much when all is said and done so they may not be as concerned as they usually are.
 

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Some of us feel a good off season sets up the season. Since Dallas continues to mostly ave bad off seasons, this opinion has legs
 

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Cooper was traded for.

McFadden was average one year and so bad the rest, he was barely on the game day active roster.

Looney was a marginal yet solid signing.
wrong Cooper.
He meant cheap FA stopgap Copper who played well in spot duty here for peanuts.

McFadden ran for over 1000 yards then was benched for a 4th overall draft pick.
DAL paid him 3.7M total for 3 years.

Looney saved this past playoff season. Calling that marginal is flat wrong.
 

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Pitt is eating over 10% of their cap for Antonio Brown.
That's a double hit.
Lose a top 3 WR and lose 10% of the cap at the same time.
You always fail to mention that PITT rolled over 18m from last year...... they had space because they re-did ABrown's deal to help sign LBell

But being perceived as cheap like DAL turned LBell against them.... they couldn't see ABrown quitting on them after just giving him a raise but he did and they had to take a bad deal to get rid of him

But that 18m roll-over negates the ABrown dead money and they got 2 draft picks to boot.... plus they saved 1m in cap space this year and 14m next year.... and that was worst case scenario
 

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the problem is how "some of you" define a good off-season.

thus the OP.


yes some, but when the season ends ad Dallas cant win a parity league, kinda proves the other some of us correct.

I like your post, i dont have a problem with the post, i do have a problem with Dallas offseason
 

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I think we are about 2 years away from "going for it"

Over the next 2 years we need to sign Dlaw, Dak, Cooper, Jones, Jaylon, Mo Collins, Zeke and I am sure I am forgetting others. Once we have that core, or as much of it as possible locked up on long term deals then there will be a better idea of how much room there is to add those 1 or 2 pieces from the outside to put them "over the top".

Then we could see some restructuring of contracts to create big space to add those pieces.

It could happen next year if we get enough of the core locked up.

Two years from now we might be having to replace our LT or some other guy on the line. We better be one year away from, “Going for it” or we’ll be rebuilding the O-Line again. :p



And how in Sam Hades did I walk into the middle of a Nerds Cap Numbers War in the Fargan Offseason???:angry:






It’s Fargan Wars Up in Here!!!!:popcorn:
 

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Dead money is a measure of contract mistakes. That's real money that could have been used to bring in solid free-agents (or retain good players otherwise lost to free agency).

In 2018, the Cowboys were #4 in the league in dead money, with $32,685,658.
In 2017, the Cowboys were #5 with $26,658,546.

In a league where so many games are decided by a handful of points, imagine how much help that money could have brought in. Bad management has cost this team many games.

The good news is were improving, coming in at #21 for 2019, with $4,258,471 in dead money.
 

ShiningStar

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Dead money is a measure of contract mistakes. That's real money that could have been used to bring in solid free-agents (or retain good players otherwise lost to free agency).

In 2018, the Cowboys were #4 in the league in dead money, with $32,685,658.
In 2017, the Cowboys were #5 with $26,658,546.

In a league where so many games are decided by a handful of points, imagine how much help that money could have brought in. Bad management has cost this team many games.

The good news is were improving, coming in at #21 for 2019, with $4,258,471 in dead money.


thats so twisted it makes sense
 

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Spanning the last decade, the team has taken 2 positions that are so diametrically opposed that it's almost unbelievable that the same people are in charge. In 2012, Stephen laughed at the idea of cap hell and pretty much restructured simply out of spite of the Austin fine. Now, the team isn't restructuring nor are they spending available money.

No matter where you stand when it comes to cap management, it shouldn't be hard to agree that Dallas' front office is still trying to figure it out...unfortunately.
 

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What bother me is our philosophy of spending money on several sub par free agents who typically end up useless or cut. I realize you have to fill out a roster, but Id much rather sign one or two legit players and then pay guys like Nolan Carroll.

*not pay guys like Nolan Carrol. Pathetic post, needed to be proof read.
 
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