The Cooper, Gallup and Cobb upgrade

[X550i]

I agree he wasn't throwing guys open, but I'm rewatching the game now, and I can tell you, he was fitting the ball into some pretty tight spaces, as well as hitting the wide open guys in stride. There were a couple the receivers had to turn around and catch behind them (Jarwin/Cobb) but even those weren't bad. The TD to Jarwin may have been intentionally thrown behind him, to make sure the defender couldn't get to it, even though that wasn't really a threat.

This concept of 'throwing guys open' is interesting.
I'm assuming it means a receiver is covered before the QB releases the ball. Once the ball is in the air, then the receiver 'separates' himself to become open and hence, catches the ball.
If that is the case, then the onuses is on the receiver to create separation by either speed or direction. Does that mean those overthrown balls to Gallup last year, were Dak 'throwing open' but the the receiver didn't do his job?

 

[Kevinicus]

Remember us lining up last season against Carolina and thinking it was the worst WR corp we’d had since I could remember... We started with T-Will and Deonte Thompson!
One year later and we have as good a 3 set at WR, as any team in the league and the best we’ve had in decades.

I remember people singing the praises of our WR group last year, and went on and on about addition by subtraction with Dez, and were in awe of the brick grabbing ways of our WR coach...and then Dak played crappy and they all changed their minds.

 

[G2]

This concept of 'throwing guys open' is interesting.
I'm assuming it means a receiver is covered before the QB releases the ball. Once the ball is in the air, then the receiver 'separates' himself to become open and hence, catches the ball.
If that is the case, then the onuses is on the receiver to create separation by either speed or direction. Does that mean those overthrown balls to Gallup last year, were Dak 'throwing open' but the the receiver didn't do his job?

I think it's a misused phrase. I have to think the lack of chemistry and time practicing together was a more realistic culprit to some of the in-completions.

 

[sean10mm]

I remember people singing the praises of our WR group last year, and went on and on about addition by subtraction with Dez, and were in awe of the brick grabbing ways of our WR coach...and then Dak played crappy and they all changed their minds.

Did Dez do something after leaving Dallas that I missed aside from a few tweets and a trip to IR?

The WR corps was trash with our without Dez at that point, it wasn't 2014.

 

[Western]

Also, Jarwin > Swain.

 

[percyhoward]

I remember people singing the praises of our WR group last year, and went on and on about addition by subtraction with Dez, and were in awe of the brick grabbing ways of our WR coach...and then Dak played crappy and they all changed their minds.

If you thought those particular WR were good, but saw the passing game struggle when they played, then saw the same QB play well with different receivers (both before and after them), you'd be forced to change your mind about those particular WR. That's just how informed opinion works, isn't it?

 

[Kevinicus]

Did Dez do something after leaving Dallas that I missed aside from a few tweets and a trip to IR?

The WR corps was trash with our without Dez at that point, it wasn't 2014.

There's no way to know what Dez would have done had he chosen to sign somewhere earlier on, or been in Dallas, so, I'm not sure why you bother to mention it.

I also don't know what it has to do with what I said about what people said last year. Are you trying to deny that a lot of people were doing what I said?

 

[Kevinicus]

If you thought those particular WR were good, but saw the passing game struggle when they played, then saw the same QB play well with different receivers (both before and after them), you'd be forced to change your mind about those particular WR. That's just how informed opinion works, isn't it?

Well, yes, if the minds weren't changed instantly once their narrative fell apart, long before the QB started playing "well" with different receivers.

 

[stilltheguru]

Grateful for Copper (obviously), but I love me some Gallup!

Such a gem for a third-round pick!

Yes it's very early, but I'm gonna say that he's already the best #2 we've had since Tony Hill — better than Williams, Rocket, Harper, etc.

The kid appears humble, dedicated, fast with great hands and could be a #1 in a pinch. Great, young player.

Hes no terry glenn yet or Miles Austin

 

[Hawkeye0202]

You've got Cooper, Gallup, and Cobb to deal with, and also Jarwin and Witten. It's going to take a special defense to adequately cover all 5 of those men and still stop Zeke/Pollard.

1000% ....Now add the creativity of Kellen whose been dreaming of this opportunity since he was a kid in high school.

 

[percyhoward]

Well, yes, if the minds weren't changed instantly once their narrative fell apart, long before the QB started playing "well" with different receivers.

Of course, he played well both before and after.

 

[Runwildboys]

This concept of 'throwing guys open' is interesting.
I'm assuming it means a receiver is covered before the QB releases the ball. Once the ball is in the air, then the receiver 'separates' himself to become open and hence, catches the ball.
If that is the case, then the onuses is on the receiver to create separation by either speed or direction. Does that mean those overthrown balls to Gallup last year, were Dak 'throwing open' but the the receiver didn't do his job?

It's more about the QB seeing the open areas of the field, and where the DBs are and where they're coming from, then throwing the ball where only the receiver can get to it. It mostly occurs on intermediate patterns. It's a legitimate phrase, but I didn't see it happen in this game.

 

[Baileyneverfailey]

Start of last year I couldn't believe they were willing to go into the season with the receiving corps we had. This year it could be one of the NFL's most productive groups. Cooper is great, Gallup is turning into a monster, Cobb is a straight upgrade over Beasley when healthy, and Austin brings his own options to the offense which will be hard to handle.

 

[AshyLarry06]

Here’s a quick example of how much better the Cowboys are in 2019 at acquisition of talent.

At the beginning of the 2016 season, the Cowboys’ starting receivers were Dez Bryant, Terrance Williams and Cole Beasley. Williams was a former 3rd round pick and Beasley a former UFA. They were the supporting cast for #1 receiver Dez Bryant who had signed a big contract in 2015. A pretty decent trio at the time, and it appeared they were our future at WR.

Flash forward to 2019 and we actually have a huge upgrade with Amari Cooper, Michael Gallup and Randall Cobb which was on display yesterday in the giants game. Dez was definitely a playmaker in his day, but Amari Cooper is a much more complete player with his precise route running. Comparing 3rd round pick Michael Gallup to TWill is also a huge upgrade. Gallup is also a great route runner and his savvy for getting open far exceeds TWill. And comparing free agent Randall Cobb to his predecessor Cole Beasley is also better. Cobb is bigger, stronger, and a better blocker in addition to his solid route running.

This year’s receiver group is a huge upgrade to what we had in 2016. And it showed yesterday. The weapons Dak has now make this offense potentially the best we’ve seen in a long time.

It’s early in a long season, but I think it’s pretty clear we have upgraded big time at the WR position.

Agree as a whole but Dez in his prime was above and beyond better than Coop, and i love Coop. But Dez was a monstrosity and completely unstoppable for 2-3 years there.

 

[Jumbo075]

Here’s a quick example of how much better the Cowboys are in 2019 at acquisition of talent.

At the beginning of the 2016 season, the Cowboys’ starting receivers were Dez Bryant, Terrance Williams and Cole Beasley. Williams was a former 3rd round pick and Beasley a former UFA. They were the supporting cast for #1 receiver Dez Bryant who had signed a big contract in 2015. A pretty decent trio at the time, and it appeared they were our future at WR.

Flash forward to 2019 and we actually have a huge upgrade with Amari Cooper, Michael Gallup and Randall Cobb which was on display yesterday in the giants game. Dez was definitely a playmaker in his day, but Amari Cooper is a much more complete player with his precise route running. Comparing 3rd round pick Michael Gallup to TWill is also a huge upgrade. Gallup is also a great route runner and his savvy for getting open far exceeds TWill. And comparing free agent Randall Cobb to his predecessor Cole Beasley is also better. Cobb is bigger, stronger, and a better blocker in addition to his solid route running.

This year’s receiver group is a huge upgrade to what we had in 2016. And it showed yesterday. The weapons Dak has now make this offense potentially the best we’ve seen in a long time.

It’s early in a long season, but I think it’s pretty clear we have upgraded big time at the WR position.

Don't stop there. The Cowboys have upgraded the 5th receiver spot as well, with the addition of former high 2nd round pick, and Ohio State alumnus Devin Smith. Smith is better than TWill, and I liked TWill. The Cowboys have depth they haven't had in the past, also.

 

[AshyLarry06]

You've got Cooper, Gallup, and Cobb to deal with, and also Jarwin and Witten. It's going to take a special defense to adequately cover all 5 of those men and still stop Zeke/Pollard.

Lol that is the craziest part, this offense was moving up and down, looking damn near unstoppable, and thats without much use of arguably the best offensive weapon in all of football. Just wait till we get Zeke fully implemented back into the offense...

 

[Cowboyz88]

Hes no terry glenn yet or Miles Austin

We'll see.

 

[Bobhaze]

Hes no terry glenn yet or Miles Austin

Cooper’s already better than Miles Austin. When Terry Glenn was here, he was already on the downside of his good career, so I’m assuming you mean his days before Dallas.

 

[Batman1980]

It's quite the turnaround from 16 and 2018 especially.

Deionte Thompson

 

[Jipper]

Gallup is a bonafide #2 who's ascending. He has sneaky speed and is always blowing past DB's. If he and Dak can get their timing down, this offense will be explosive. He should have double digit TD's. Cobb may prove to be one of the sneakiest most underrated offseason signings. People forget how good he really was in GB.

i think he could be a number one honestly...if i recall correctly, coming out of college he was the best at td's in the endzone when targeted...? someone remember this stat?