News: DC: Lawrence was asked: Do you believe in the coaching staff?

Zman5

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No, dude. He doesn't. He spends most of the week counting money and laughing at you for continuing to tune in.

‘And suckering dumb fans to think he’s a good HC and have them defend him with meaningless quotes from players.
 

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it is at least to the dermis layer versus your hairbrush stroke

Counting plays on a drive and saying what they were isn't exactly saying anything more than what you get looking at a stat sheet. While it wasn't my intention to get into a breakdown of plays, I've at least pointed to some actual errors that happened when the plays were run.
 

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Counting plays on a drive and saying what they were isn't exactly saying anything more than what you get looking at a stat sheet. While it wasn't my intention to get into a breakdown of plays, I've at least pointed to some actual errors that happened when the plays were run.

So you are good with no runs when your passing game is stymied to that point, the running game is moving the ball, and you have 18 minutes to play down 2 scores.

11 passes, 5 completions when Buffalo is playing zone. This strategy is completely fine with you - mainly because it is what they did and basically they are infallible. That is almost stockholm syndrome-ish
 

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Not sure. I'm not the one proclaiming they were wrong to call the plays.

Thank you for proving you have as much feel for the game as the coaches. Arguing the one 4th down call as some anecdotal proof they (and by default you) are right and try to presume proof by authority.

11 pass plays and no runs. no runs for elliot or pollard in the last 20 minutes of the game down 2 scores.

It was panic and Buffalo played them one dimensional and they abided
 

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So you are good with no runs when your passing game is stymied to that point, the running game is moving the ball, and you have 18 minutes to play down 2 scores.

11 passes, 5 completions when Buffalo is playing zone. This strategy is completely fine with you - mainly because it is what they did and basically they are infallible. That is almost stockholm syndrome-ish

I was critical in another thread about their abandoning the running game. That doesn't mean the plays on that drive were necessarily bad calls. If the problem was execution, as is the sentiment of every single player who spoke to media, I'll defer to their expertise over that of an anonymous fan. No offense.*

*That's not a pun about what happened in the game
 

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You think they executed well in that game?

No. Anybody who ever played football at a college level or higher knows when a whole football team doesn’t execute well, the team wasn’t prepared by the coaches during the week. You want to tell me every player on the team all of sudden lost their talent and forgot to play?
 

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I was critical in another thread about their abandoning the running game. That doesn't mean the plays on that drive were necessarily bad calls. If the problem was execution, as is the sentiment of every single player who spoke to media, I'll defer to their expertise over that of an anonymous fan. No offense.*

*That's not a pun about what happened in the game

So I assume you deferred to Aikman, Romo, TO, Dez, Holley and Marcus Spears and any other player who has criticized the coaching once removed from the team and mandated media snippets?
 

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Thank you for proving you have as much feel for the game as the coaches.

Nice. I think being compared to an actual NFL coach is quite complimentary, thanks. I doubt you've ever been flattered in kind.

Arguing the one 4th down call as some anecdotal proof they (and by default you) are right and try to presume proof by authority.

Like I said earlier, not planning on doing breakdowns of plays. There are obviously a myriad of player mistakes we'll never know about with not knowing the playcall and assignments. Lewis seemed pretty hard on himself. Dak brought up some of his mistakes he made.

11 pass plays and no runs. no runs for elliot or pollard in the last 20 minutes of the game down 2 scores.

It was panic and Buffalo played them one dimensional and they abided

Does that absolve them of their poor execution?
 

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No. Anybody who ever played football at a college level or higher knows when a whole football team doesn’t execute well, the team wasn’t prepared by the coaches during the week. You want to tell me every player on the team all of sudden lost their talent and forgot to play?

No. I'm saying there were more miscues by Dallas players than by Buffalo players. Anybody who ever played would also know when you step on the field it's up to you to do your job and players can screw up, just like any other job.

What's funny is the whole, "what else would the players say?" critique. Lewis didn't have to tell the media he felt like he let the team down because he didn't do his job. Lawrence didn't have to say, "that's a stupid question." They didn't have to visibly roll their eyes when asked about coaching being a problem. None of the players who owned up to their mistakes had to say any of that. They all could have just said, "we didn't get it done and need to be better."
 

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So I assume you deferred to Aikman, Romo, TO, Dez, Holley and Marcus Spears and any other player who has criticized the coaching once removed from the team and mandated media snippets?

Depends on the critic and the critique. Coaches aren't perfect. But we're talking about the Thanksgiving Day game that just occurred. You know, the one where the players all seemed to take the blame for their poor performance?
 

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No. I'm saying there were more miscues by Dallas players than by Buffalo players. Anybody who ever played would also know when you step on the field it's up to you to do your job and players can screw up, just like any other job.

What's funny is the whole, "what else would the players say?" critique. Lewis didn't have to tell the media he felt like he let the team down because he didn't do his job. Lawrence didn't have to say, "that's a stupid question." They didn't have to visibly roll their eyes when asked about coaching being a problem. None of the players who owned up to their mistakes had to say any of that. They all could have just said, "we didn't get it done and need to be better."


So why were Bills player able to do their job better with one less day to practice due to travel?
You think it’s because they have better players in almost every positions?
This game was a total team beat down. It wasn’t just one or two players. We weren’t even competitive.
 

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No. I'm saying there were more miscues by Dallas players than by Buffalo players. Anybody who ever played would also know when you step on the field it's up to you to do your job and players can screw up, just like any other job.

What's funny is the whole, "what else would the players say?" critique. Lewis didn't have to tell the media he felt like he let the team down because he didn't do his job. Lawrence didn't have to say, "that's a stupid question." They didn't have to visibly roll their eyes when asked about coaching being a problem. None of the players who owned up to their mistakes had to say any of that. They all could have just said, "we didn't get it done and need to be better."

So when JG says Maher has been doing a good job.,you think he means it? Like you said he didn’t have to say it.
 

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Nice. I think being compared to an actual NFL coach is quite complimentary, thanks. I doubt you've ever been flattered in kind.


Like I said earlier, not planning on doing breakdowns of plays. There are obviously a myriad of player mistakes we'll never know about with not knowing the playcall and assignments. Lewis seemed pretty hard on himself. Dak brought up some of his mistakes he made.



Does that absolve them of their poor execution?

If you feel good about that, take it as a compliment. In all sincerity, you probably could not be any more of an ineffective figure head if you coached the team

As to the last point, I almost feel that you are trolling or maybe just dont have the analytical and strategic capacity to follow a cogent point. Giving the benefit of the doubt to the latter, I'll walk through slowly.

They struggled with blitzes today, no? This is coaching and preparedness for a top 5 QB pressuring team. Routes need to change, blocking assignments picked up, adjustments made. As for play calling, If Buffalo zone blitzes, then throwing into predetermined lanes (curl, dig or slant), then less probability of positive execution of the original play is likely to work. If Buffalo knows that once you get Dallas down double digits - they go one dimensional. Life gets easier for Buffalo. The offense has self-imposed itself into a one dimensional strategy way too early and Buffalo gets to play to its strength.

Almost an exact same situation happened last week. get inside the 10 and except it was run for 3 (stretch option of all things) throw, throw - ending up with a 4th and 7. Kick FG. Receive criticism.

FF to now, 1st and goal at the 9. pass, pass for 3, pass and have a 4th and 6 - pass in the dirt. Unlike the Viking game where Zeke had as many 0 and neg yard runs as positive run, He was chipping at 4-6ypc the last 2 weeks. last 2 weeks - No runs. All faith in a struggling passing game against great pass defences. As opposed to a potential 4th and 1 or 2 where the entire playbook is open, pass, pass, pass, makes 4th down be a pass if they do not complete it. The coaches have no feel for the game, or Dak has no feel for the game.

Execution is a red herring. Football play calling is not unlike economic behavioural option modeling or easier - chess. If x then y, or If X +Y, then z otherwise A1. If you let a defense know you are one dimensional, then they dictate the action and the offense must react. If more options are open (i.e. the threat is in the recency bias memory of the opposition), then more wrinkles or options are available for successful "execution"

Hail Mary's and onside kicks don't predominantly fail from lack of "execution." The opponent knows what is coming and that countermeasure reduces the probability of positive execution.


Or maybe we are just one swim move and one trap block away - just bad form - correctable as the players said
 
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