Can we trust McCarthy to fix this?

[Redball Express]

The draft is coming and we are turning our attention to it

But how we conduct it is generally confusing.

It's an indication of the leadership of this team under our GM Jerrah.

Ultimately, Jerrah as GM is responsible for supporting this team building approach and setting the tone.

The types of players taken are always it seems these risk/rewards types..especially our #2 picks which we seem to devalue.

Picks like Jaylon Smith, Gregory, and others seem to follow a solid #1 pick. They generally are complete with injury problems, questionable medical reports and plunging draft positions.

Why not stop this and stay with BPA guys and stop dice rolling? Can anybody point out to me where this approach has ever produced unearthing a diamond in the rough?

Think long and hard now.

Is this going to stop with a new HC with so much rebuilding ahead?

Personally I hope so.

This team has been here before. Back when we had won our SBs in the 90s we hit a wall with Switzer carrying guns on to airplanes and Michael Irvin running with drug dealers and ladies of less than wholesome values.

Get me?

What it says is the team are accepting of short-term results to just get them on the field at any point to get some discounted help despite injury or suspension history.

Now all players will suffer injuries at some point. But if you start out with injuries and bad decision making off the field and draft them..

You double your potential risk for failure.

This team needs to stop this philosophy immediately and draft healthy, un-addicted, emotionally stable players.

No other sport franchise does this with the regularity as we do.

If this team is really trying to fix its problems going forward..

then Will Clay and others in the draft room must reset their goals.

I wonder if McCarthy has any influence on this at all?

He impresses me as a guy with high requirements.

Time to make all the changes and really get a fresh start for this team.

Back when I first started following this team I was 10 years old. One of the reasons the team became popular was that it represented cowboys..

a personality of being tough, heroic and single-mindedness in pursuing a moral high ground goal.

People flocked to that ideology in the mid-60s.

People were going to the theatres to see John Wayne and Hollywood heroes to escape stuff like assassinations, the Vietnam War and other national tragedies.

Bi-Polar, drug violations, violence prone players need not be considered for this team.

There was a time when this team refused to draft players like Randy Moss and took players like Greg Ellis instead because we had tired of the actions of players like Michael Irvin who was caught chasing drugs and women of suggested reputations.

Enough.

Can we see these issues as root causing issues for our failures as tone-setting approaching ingredients to our problems?

I never see GB have these issues. They have run rings around us over the last 25 years..

Does McCarthy fix things or does he continue our endless journey of frustration?

Your observations are welcome.

I apologize in advance for your time to read this. I value everybodies opinions, folks.

Comments?

 

[SoupcanSam]

The draft is coming and we are turning our attention to it

But how we conduct it is generally confusing.

It's an indication of the leadership of this team under our GM Jerrah.

Ultimately, Jerrah as GM is responsible for supporting this team building approach and setting the tone.

The types of players taken are always it seems these risk/rewards types..especially our #2 picks which we seem to devalue.

Picks like Jaylon Smith, Gregory, and others seem to follow a solid #1 pick. They generally are complete with injury problems, questionable medical reports and plunging draft positions.

Why not stop this and stay with BPA guys and stop dice rolling? Can anybody point out to me where this approach has ever produced unearthing a diamond in the rough?

Think long and hard now.

Is this going to stop with a new HC with so much rebuilding ahead?

Personally I hope so.

This team has been here before. Back when we had won our SBs in the 90s we hit a wall with Switzer carrying guns on to airplanes and Michael Irvin running with drug dealers and ladies of less than wholesome values.

Get me?

What it says is the team are accepting of short-term results to just get them on the field at any point to get some discounted help despite injury or suspension history.

Now all players will suffer injuries at some point. But if you start out with injuries and bad decision making off the field and draft them..

You double your potential risk for failure.

This team needs to stop this philosophy immediately and draft healthy, un-addicted, emotionally stable players.

No other sport franchise does this with the regularity as we do.

If this team is really trying to fix its problems going forward..

then Will Clay and others in the draft room must reset their goals.

I wonder if McCarthy has any influence on this at all?

He impresses me as a guy with high requirements.

Time to make all the changes and really get a fresh start for this team.

Back when I first started following this team I was 10 years old. One of the reasons the team became popular was that it represented cowboys..

a personality of being tough, heroic and single-mindedness in pursuing a goal.

People flocked to that ideology in the mid-60s.

People were going to the theatres to see John Wayne and Hollywood heroes to escape stuff like assassinations, the Vietnam War and other national tragedies.

Bi-Polar, drug violations, violence prone players need not be considered for this team.

There was a time when this team refused to draft players like Randy Moss and took players like Greg Ellis instead because we had tired of the actions of players like Michael Irvin who was caught chasing drugs and women of suggested reputations.

Enough.

Can we see these issues as root causing issues for our failures as tone-setting approaching ingredients to our problems?

I never see GB have these issues. They have run rings around us over the last 25 years..

Does McCarthy fix things or does he continue our endless journey of frustration?

Your observations are welcome.

I apologize in advance for your time to read this. I value everybodies opinions, folks.

Comments?

"You can" trust anybody after garrett

 

[Sydla]

Can we trust him? No.

But I can say I feel much better about 2020 than I would have if Garrett had somehow saved his job here.

 

[xwalker]

The draft is coming and we are turning our attention to it

But how we conduct it is generally confusing.

It's an indication of the leadership of this team under our GM Jerrah.

Ultimately, Jerrah as GM is responsible for supporting this team building approach and setting the tone.

The types of players taken are always it seems these risk/rewards types..especially our #2 picks which we seem to devalue.

Picks like Jaylon Smith, Gregory, and others seem to follow a solid #1 pick. They generally are complete with injury problems, questionable medical reports and plunging draft positions.

Why not stop this and stay with BPA guys and stop dice rolling? Can anybody point out to me where this approach has ever produced unearthing a diamond in the rough?

Think long and hard now.

Is this going to stop with a new HC with so much rebuilding ahead?

Personally I hope so.

This team has been here before. Back when we had won our SBs in the 90s we hit a wall with Switzer carrying guns on to airplanes and Michael Irvin running with drug dealers and ladies of less than wholesome values.

Get me?

What it says is the team are accepting of short-term results to just get them on the field at any point to get some discounted help despite injury or suspension history.

Now all players will suffer injuries at some point. But if you start out with injuries and bad decision making off the field and draft them..

You double your potential risk for failure.

This team needs to stop this philosophy immediately and draft healthy, un-addicted, emotionally stable players.

No other sport franchise does this with the regularity as we do.

If this team is really trying to fix its problems going forward..

then Will Clay and others in the draft room must reset their goals.

I wonder if McCarthy has any influence on this at all?

He impresses me as a guy with high requirements.

Time to make all the changes and really get a fresh start for this team.

Back when I first started following this team I was 10 years old. One of the reasons the team became popular was that it represented cowboys..

a personality of being tough, heroic and single-mindedness in pursuing a goal.

People flocked to that ideology in the mid-60s.

People were going to the theatres to see John Wayne and Hollywood heroes to escape stuff like assassinations, the Vietnam War and other national tragedies.

Bi-Polar, drug violations, violence prone players need not be considered for this team.

There was a time when this team refused to draft players like Randy Moss and took players like Greg Ellis instead because we had tired of the actions of players like Michael Irvin who was caught chasing drugs and women of suggested reputations.

Enough.

Can we see these issues as root causing issues for our failures as tone-setting approaching ingredients to our problems?

I never see GB have these issues. They have run rings around us over the last 25 years..

Does McCarthy fix things or does he continue our endless journey of frustration?

Your observations are welcome.

I apologize in advance for your time to read this. I value everybodies opinions, folks.

Comments?

That is not really how is has happened...

Jaylon came back from the injury. The Cowboys were correct on that part of the Jaylon pick.

Any issues Jaylon had in 2019 were mental and from gaining too much weight.

Randy Gregory is the primary "fail" on those types of picks.


Looking back at any failed picks, almost all of those picks involved the coaching staff pressuring the scouting department to draft a specific position or specific type of player early.

Will McClay preferred TJ Watt and another player to Taco, but Marinelli pushed for Taco because he "fit" the requires of a 4-3 DE.

If T.Hills ends up being a bust, that pick was heavily influenced by need which came again from Marinelli. McClay had a FS rated higher than Hill.

Marinelli only had that much influence because Garrett was a weak Head Coach.

 

[Stash]

The draft is coming and we are turning our attention to it

But how we conduct it is generally confusing.

It's an indication of the leadership of this team under our GM Jerrah.

Ultimately, Jerrah as GM is responsible for supporting this team building approach and setting the tone.

The types of players taken are always it seems these risk/rewards types..especially our #2 picks which we seem to devalue.

Picks like Jaylon Smith, Gregory, and others seem to follow a solid #1 pick. They generally are complete with injury problems, questionable medical reports and plunging draft positions.

Why not stop this and stay with BPA guys and stop dice rolling? Can anybody point out to me where this approach has ever produced unearthing a diamond in the rough?

Think long and hard now.

Is this going to stop with a new HC with so much rebuilding ahead?

Personally I hope so.

This team has been here before. Back when we had won our SBs in the 90s we hit a wall with Switzer carrying guns on to airplanes and Michael Irvin running with drug dealers and ladies of less than wholesome values.

Get me?

What it says is the team are accepting of short-term results to just get them on the field at any point to get some discounted help despite injury or suspension history.

Now all players will suffer injuries at some point. But if you start out with injuries and bad decision making off the field and draft them..

You double your potential risk for failure.

This team needs to stop this philosophy immediately and draft healthy, un-addicted, emotionally stable players.

No other sport franchise does this with the regularity as we do.

If this team is really trying to fix its problems going forward..

then Will Clay and others in the draft room must reset their goals.

I wonder if McCarthy has any influence on this at all?

He impresses me as a guy with high requirements.

Time to make all the changes and really get a fresh start for this team.

Back when I first started following this team I was 10 years old. One of the reasons the team became popular was that it represented cowboys..

a personality of being tough, heroic and single-mindedness in pursuing a goal.

People flocked to that ideology in the mid-60s.

People were going to the theatres to see John Wayne and Hollywood heroes to escape stuff like assassinations, the Vietnam War and other national tragedies.

Bi-Polar, drug violations, violence prone players need not be considered for this team.

There was a time when this team refused to draft players like Randy Moss and took players like Greg Ellis instead because we had tired of the actions of players like Michael Irvin who was caught chasing drugs and women of suggested reputations.

Enough.

Can we see these issues as root causing issues for our failures as tone-setting approaching ingredients to our problems?

I never see GB have these issues. They have run rings around us over the last 25 years..

Does McCarthy fix things or does he continue our endless journey of frustration?

Your observations are welcome.

I apologize in advance for your time to read this. I value everybodies opinions, folks.

Comments?

That 2nd round rolling the dice strategy was discontinued a few years back now so you need not concern yourself with that. Take note of the safe selections of Chico and Conner Williams. They may not be home runs, but neither was high risk or a roll of the dice as had been done in the past

 

[Ranching]

The draft is coming and we are turning our attention to it

But how we conduct it is generally confusing.

It's an indication of the leadership of this team under our GM Jerrah.

Ultimately, Jerrah as GM is responsible for supporting this team building approach and setting the tone.

The types of players taken are always it seems these risk/rewards types..especially our #2 picks which we seem to devalue.

Picks like Jaylon Smith, Gregory, and others seem to follow a solid #1 pick. They generally are complete with injury problems, questionable medical reports and plunging draft positions.

Why not stop this and stay with BPA guys and stop dice rolling? Can anybody point out to me where this approach has ever produced unearthing a diamond in the rough?

Think long and hard now.

Is this going to stop with a new HC with so much rebuilding ahead?

Personally I hope so.

This team has been here before. Back when we had won our SBs in the 90s we hit a wall with Switzer carrying guns on to airplanes and Michael Irvin running with drug dealers and ladies of less than wholesome values.

Get me?

What it says is the team are accepting of short-term results to just get them on the field at any point to get some discounted help despite injury or suspension history.

Now all players will suffer injuries at some point. But if you start out with injuries and bad decision making off the field and draft them..

You double your potential risk for failure.

This team needs to stop this philosophy immediately and draft healthy, un-addicted, emotionally stable players.

No other sport franchise does this with the regularity as we do.

If this team is really trying to fix its problems going forward..

then Will Clay and others in the draft room must reset their goals.

I wonder if McCarthy has any influence on this at all?

He impresses me as a guy with high requirements.

Time to make all the changes and really get a fresh start for this team.

Back when I first started following this team I was 10 years old. One of the reasons the team became popular was that it represented cowboys..

a personality of being tough, heroic and single-mindedness in pursuing a moral high ground goal.

People flocked to that ideology in the mid-60s.

People were going to the theatres to see John Wayne and Hollywood heroes to escape stuff like assassinations, the Vietnam War and other national tragedies.

Bi-Polar, drug violations, violence prone players need not be considered for this team.

There was a time when this team refused to draft players like Randy Moss and took players like Greg Ellis instead because we had tired of the actions of players like Michael Irvin who was caught chasing drugs and women of suggested reputations.

Enough.

Can we see these issues as root causing issues for our failures as tone-setting approaching ingredients to our problems?

I never see GB have these issues. They have run rings around us over the last 25 years..

Does McCarthy fix things or does he continue our endless journey of frustration?

Your observations are welcome.

I apologize in advance for your time to read this. I value everybodies opinions, folks.

Comments?

Confusing? Wow, I didn't know you had access to the war room! I'm impressed.....

 

[Redball Express]

That 2nd round rolling the dice strategy was discontinued a few years back now so you need not concern yourself with that. Take note of the safe selections of Chico and Conner Williams. They may not be home runs, but neither was high risk or a roll of the dice as had been done in the past

I just do not want any reversals.

When McCarthy says he is the steward of the team going forward..

does he see everything it entails?

That is my concern.

We all know the Jones' have had a big hand in the mis-directions of our past.

I do not want to see us sacrifice his performance of producing good results where he is.

I see some Jimmy Johnson in him. Do not want him to burn out after 3 years in Dallas.

I do not expect 13 years as McCarthy had in GB.

Half of that would make me smile.

That would be about the time Jerrah should be moving out of team rolls and on to his yatch.

 

[Stash]

I just do not want any reversals.

When McCarthy says he is the steward of the team going forward..

does he see everything it entails?

That is my concern.

I have two reasons for optimism:

1. Jerry Jones is currently enamored with Mike McCarthy. Championships go a long way in terms of credibility with Jerry. They did with Jimmy, and they did with Parcells. Jerry listened to those two accomplished coaches like no others.
2. The team knows they screwed up by overruling a scouting department that was knocking it out of the park. That got them one epic bust in Taco, and one well on his way to being another one in Hill. I think they're going to allow the scouts to again to do their jobs for a while.

 

[ESisback]

Some will say “yes”, some will say “no”, and it will always be that way, whomever they hire.

While it’s WAY too early with so many unanswered questions, IMHO, we’ll be a much better team. We NEEDED a change, some fresh air, a new perspective. I expect the offense to remain lethal with the personnel we have, and Moore in his second year as OC. Our ST has nowhere to go but up. If we acquire a few vital pieces in FA and the draft (DT, S, LB), and add to what we already have, Nolan will abandon the BBDB and improve the D.

Hope is a good thing.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

IMO McCarthy is a good coach and a good hire, so I'm giving the man a chance.

 

[jazzcat22]

We will have to trust MM to fix it, we have no other choice.
However he has skins on the wall, so the answer is probably, yes we can.

So far he has made many good moves with the coaching staff. For those that think some are...meh, ok, see what happens, well yes, we all are in that boat. But since he has full authority on his staff, then I think we can trust him on the draft, as well as FA. But then FA depends on the price as well.

So we will see how MM works with McClay as well as with Stephen.

Also how much will we see in the OTA's and mini camp as to what this will all look like. Though we won't see much of the real Offense and Defense. But it will give some indication on a few things.

All this makes it a much more worth while off season than if the other guy was still here.

 

[The Fonz]

"You can" trust anybody after garrett

If only life as simple ...Cowboys issue is deeper than just a coach or 2

 

[blueblood70]

The draft is coming and we are turning our attention to it

But how we conduct it is generally confusing.

It's an indication of the leadership of this team under our GM Jerrah.

Ultimately, Jerrah as GM is responsible for supporting this team building approach and setting the tone.

The types of players taken are always it seems these risk/rewards types..especially our #2 picks which we seem to devalue.

Picks like Jaylon Smith, Gregory, and others seem to follow a solid #1 pick. They generally are complete with injury problems, questionable medical reports and plunging draft positions.

Why not stop this and stay with BPA guys and stop dice rolling? Can anybody point out to me where this approach has ever produced unearthing a diamond in the rough?

Think long and hard now.

Is this going to stop with a new HC with so much rebuilding ahead?

Personally I hope so.

This team has been here before. Back when we had won our SBs in the 90s we hit a wall with Switzer carrying guns on to airplanes and Michael Irvin running with drug dealers and ladies of less than wholesome values.

Get me?

What it says is the team are accepting of short-term results to just get them on the field at any point to get some discounted help despite injury or suspension history.

Now all players will suffer injuries at some point. But if you start out with injuries and bad decision making off the field and draft them..

You double your potential risk for failure.

This team needs to stop this philosophy immediately and draft healthy, un-addicted, emotionally stable players.

No other sport franchise does this with the regularity as we do.

If this team is really trying to fix its problems going forward..

then Will Clay and others in the draft room must reset their goals.

I wonder if McCarthy has any influence on this at all?

He impresses me as a guy with high requirements.

Time to make all the changes and really get a fresh start for this team.

Back when I first started following this team I was 10 years old. One of the reasons the team became popular was that it represented cowboys..

a personality of being tough, heroic and single-mindedness in pursuing a moral high ground goal.

People flocked to that ideology in the mid-60s.

People were going to the theatres to see John Wayne and Hollywood heroes to escape stuff like assassinations, the Vietnam War and other national tragedies.

Bi-Polar, drug violations, violence prone players need not be considered for this team.

There was a time when this team refused to draft players like Randy Moss and took players like Greg Ellis instead because we had tired of the actions of players like Michael Irvin who was caught chasing drugs and women of suggested reputations.

Enough.

Can we see these issues as root causing issues for our failures as tone-setting approaching ingredients to our problems?

I never see GB have these issues. They have run rings around us over the last 25 years..

Does McCarthy fix things or does he continue our endless journey of frustration?

Your observations are welcome.

I apologize in advance for your time to read this. I value everybodies opinions, folks.

Comments?

OMG I'm not reading all that but to answer the subject line

do we have a choice? can we wait on all the questions until we see some games..lmao

 

[fivetwos]

No choice

 

[JayFord]

All i care about is not taking project players in round 2

round 2 is for people who are starters and can contribute IMMEDIATELY

round 5-7 is where you take projects

 

[Redball Express]

Confusing? Wow, I didn't know you had access to the war room! I'm impressed.....

WE ARE THE WAR ROOM.

No more conflicts or division than over at the Star.

I can only imagine the email downloads from there.

 

[mardwin]

The guy has literally just cleaned house... so that's where you begin when things are not working.

 

[Redball Express]

All i care about is not taking project players in round 2

round 2 is for people who are starters and can contribute IMMEDIATELY

round 5-7 is where you take projects

Agreed.

Reaching has been seriously debilitating for us.

And when a player fails to meet expectations..
It's usually becuz he is trying to replace a previous failed position becuz we over-reached with them.

The lesser player thrown in to play shows why he is the lesser player.

It's a domino effect I am tired of dealing with as a loyal fan.

If I took the risks in my life decisions as this team does trying to win using this it..

Oh my..

 

[Redball Express]

OMG I'm not reading all that but to answer the subject line

do we have a choice? can we wait on all the questions until we see some games..lmao

No problem.

Sure.

 

[SackMaster]

I love today's culture to freak out BEFORE something happens.

It is kind of acceptable when there is a track record of suckage (aka the other "HC"), but when it concerns something with little to no track record, it's a fruitless pursuit of worry.

Feel free to worry all you want, but I think the wiser, and more healthy way, to look at it is wait for some actual RESULTS before writing dissertations on how terrible it all COULD be.

JMHO