Who got a raw deal from the Cowboys?

SSoup said:

Patrick Crayton is a big example that comes to mind.

The fact that we traded a 1st rounder for WR Roy Williams assuming he would be a better #2 WR (which was still just the 3rd option in the passing game since our TE was posting starting WR numbers back then, and to be the 4th best option in our offense overall if you count the running game as a better option which it was)? Only to have Crayton outplay him?

It was pure disrespect and Crayton proved us fools for wasting that pick on someone who couldn't even outplay him after he got here.

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Crayton is a good one, but I disagree on Roy. It wasn't disrespect to Crayton as much as vastly overrating Roy.

But there was disrespect to come.

They brought in the punt return specialist to replace him in 2009, and when he sucks and they give up on him, they give punt returns back to Crayton and he gets 2 return TDs that year. Ha!

His final offseason with us, they draft Dez. Crayton asks to be cut, and they hold onto him until they trade him to SD for a 7th round pick on September 4th.

This was 2010. He was having his best season ever until he missed the final 6 games of the season, I presume from injury. 12.4 yards/target, 57 yards/game. That per target number is crazy.

buybuydandavis said:

Crayton is a good one, but I disagree on Roy. It wasn't disrespect to Crayton as much as vastly overrating Roy.

But there was disrespect to come.

They brought in the punt return specialist to replace him in 2009, and when he sucks and they give up on him, they give punt returns back to Crayton and he gets 2 return TDs that year. Ha!

His final offseason with us, they draft Dez. Crayton asks to be cut, and they hold onto him until they trade him to SD for a 7th round pick on September 4th.

This was 2010. He was having his best season ever until he missed the final 6 games of the season, I presume from injury. 12.4 yards/target, 57 yards/game. That per target number is crazy.

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I do think it was disrespect. It was a mindset of: "nothing Crayton does really counts because he's not sexy to us." Like he was an unsexy jobber who belonged on an unsexy Parcells coaching tree roster.

If someone we'd drafted with a higher pick during the new coaching regime's time had taken over Crayton's snaps and had been doing exactly what Crayton was doing (like if it had been Isiah Stanback for instance), they'd have been creaming their jeans over it. Go look at Crayton's 2007 stat line and tell me that if Stanback posted that line in 2007, we'd have still wasted a 1st rounder on an expensive generic starting WR like Roy.

Crayton did fine. Crayton did what they wished Stanback would've done. But because it was Crayton, it didn't count.

I felt Jourdan Lewis got a raw deal from Kris Richard for being shorter than his preference. I think many here felt the same.

Garrett, Dez, Quincy, T. O, , Romo, Chan Gailey, Antonio Bryant,

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CowboyRoy said:

Cowboys low balled him when they should have signed him. He would have had a great career here. Instead he goes to Philly and splits carries.

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He wasn't assigned to philly. He chose them and his career fell apart. Sometimes we all make bad choices.

SSoup said:

I do think it was disrespect. It was a mindset of: "nothing Crayton does really counts because he's not sexy to us." Like he was an unsexy jobber who belonged on an unsexy Parcells coaching tree roster.

If someone we'd drafted with a higher pick during the new coaching regime's time had taken over Crayton's snaps and had been doing exactly what Crayton was doing (like if it had been Isiah Stanback for instance), they'd have been creaming their jeans over it. Go look at Crayton's 2007 stat line and tell me that if Stanback posted that line in 2007, we'd have still wasted a 1st rounder on an expensive generic starting WR like Roy.




Crayton did fine. Crayton did what they wished Stanback would've done. But because it was Crayton, it didn't count.

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Remember that drop against the giants he had in the playoffs?

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:

Tyler Patmon. He beat up Dez Bryant and was off the team.

Jay Ratliff. The FO told this guy he was faking an injury. Really?

Jason Hatcher. He sat for years behind a bunch of nobodies.

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Didn’t ratliff get in jerrys face ?

https://www.dallascowboys.com/video/dez-bryant-tyler-patmon-fight-full-video-reaction-381136

Even fight!

robertfchew said:

Remember that drop against the giants he had in the playoffs?

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Please tell me that costly mistake isn't your justification for the team throwing away a 1st rounder on a worse receiver in a stupid attempt to replace him?

Because if a key offensive piece making a costly mistake in a playoff loss in their 4th season is all it takes to make you decide you can't build on/with that player, thank God you didn't have your hands on the wheel after Jason Witten's fumble in the 2006 playoff loss cost us 3-7 points in a game we ultimately lost by one point.

Bullflop said:

I felt Jourdan Lewis got a raw deal from Kris Richard for being shorter than his preference. I think many here felt the same.

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Lewis' advanced stats are interesting, I have to admit.

Since Byron Jones was implanted in the CB spot in 2018, Lewis is the only corner on the team who has been comparable every season when it comes to the stat of passer rating allowed. Lewis allowed passer ratings of 85.6 and 86.8 in 2018 and 2019. Byron allowed passer ratings of 84.7 and 87.7.

It's not an apples-to-apples comparison, of course. But it's interesting that opposing QB's really weren't that much better off throwing at Lewis than they were throwing at Byron, and they were worse off throwing at Lewis instead of Byron in 2019.

To add some context, Awuzie allowed a passer rating of 89 in 2019. Which wasn't far off from Byron's 2019 (bearing in mind Byron regressed in that category in 2019), so his ceiling isn't insanely far off from Byron's floor if we're calling that Byron's floor. But that's Awuzie's ceiling. How about his floor?

Well... Awuzie in 2018 was a big bowl of yikes, allowing a passer rating of 97. So when it rains, it pours with him. The gulf between what an opposing offense could expect when throwing at Awuzie versus throwing at Byron in 2018 was massive. If anything, they should've thrown at Awuzie even more than they did in 2018 -- he got targeted more in 2019, the year when opposing QBs didn't have much more luck against him than they had against Byron, than he did in 2018 when he was a flaming dumpster fire.

Jourdan Lewis was our main slot guy in 2019. But he wasn't in 2018. Anthony Brown was targeted 64 times in 2018 (the same number of times Lewis was targeted in 2019, after Lewis was only targeted 19 times in 2018). How did Brown fare when he was playing ahead of Lewis? He allowed a passer rating of 107.5. Yikes.

If Lewis was in there for Brown's snaps, allowing a passer rating 20 points lower, our 2018 defense statistically would've been harder to attack.

But Kris Richard must've just liked Brown more. Lewis played 15 games in 2018, so I don't think he was hurt or hobbled and that's why he was an afterthought that year. Richard just must not have liked him at all.

Terrell Owens and Patrick Crayton deserve honorable mention. Both tried to tell the truth about what was really going on in Dallas and both were shipped out unceremoniously.

The answer to this question is hardly anyone. And that my friends is a BIG part of the problem. Jerruh loves his babies too much. people say what a great businessman he is but a true businessman would never let it get personal. This isn't a business for him. It is his passion, his hobby, his pass time. It is simply fun for him win or lose.

Ebnorice said:

Anthony spencer got kind of shafted in a way. Two franchise tags and never got that big contract.

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He never deserved the two tags let alone the big contract. Almost Anthony so over rated.

leeblair said:

Antonio Bryant, Tashard Choice.

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LOL complete JAGS

CowboyRoy said:

Demarco Murray got pretty screwed.

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This is actually a pretty good example. He is one of the few players that the Cowboys extracted excellent production out of a reasonable contract then just let him walk away. An excellent decision and what I thought was a real turning point for the franchise. We were a crazy young team. Appeared to be drafted intelligently. Appeared to no longer feel the need to reward everyone with massive contracts. My how quickly things turned.

gimmesix said:

Tyrone Crawford.

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LOL I am assuming this is a a sarcastic joke.

Romo! had an ok team around him 2 years the whole time he was in dallas. Daks already had more.

leeblair said:

Terrell Owens and Patrick Crayton deserve honorable mention. Both tried to tell the truth about what was really going on in Dallas and both were shipped out unceremoniously.

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I agree with TO. He was making good bank but was incredible on the field. That 3 year stretch of stats was insane. Then he was let go because the team needed a scape goat. That is what happens when you have a leaderless, ruderless ship. Crayton is a complete nobody and thus can not get screwed.