When the Game Was Played on Natural Grass

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Blaine Nye was one of my very favorite players back in the day! He always had something funny and really entertaining to comment about. The "Zero Club" was a perfect example of that. He was an extremely capable blocker and certainly a well-respected member of some great Cowboys teams. He was the guy who said Clint Longley was someone who had the advantage of one who "plays with the triumph of an uncluttered mind." :D
 
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GORICO said:
Road---tell me what Smith you are talking about?....i tried to google .Lee Roy Jordan punches smith in the mouth ...but did not find anything?
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According to Eagles fans that was the hit that started the rivalry

"On Dec. 10, 1967, Jordan delivered an elbow and forearm to the face of Eagles running back Timmy Brown, a hit naked and vicious and unforgettable for the man who suffered it - or for anyone who witnessed it. Newspaper reports at the time said it cost Brown four teeth. Brown said recently that the actual number was nine."

"No opponent inspires the same visceral dislike that Dallas does, and the genesis of the Cowboys' status as the Eagles' bête-noir can be traced to that single moment, when Jordan shattered the veneer of civility between the two teams in the same instant he shattered Brown's jaw."
"That," Brown said in a phone interview, "started the rivalry."

https://www.inquirer.com/philly/spo..._that_started_the_Eagles-Cowboys_rivalry.html
 
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Doesn't half the NFL have natural grass? Or close to it?
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I believe you're right. It might even be a bit more than half. But you have to admit, today's turf is much better than the previous version. I remember as a 12 year old kid being allowed to run around on Giants Stadium with that awful carpet. I would never want to be tackled on that surface. It reminded me of being tackled on a baseball infield with the added benefit of rug burn. Players must have hated that compared to grass.

IMO every stadium should have natural grass. They have the means to maintain it now. I have nothing to back up what I am about to say, but I do believe even the new turf causes more injuries. You can cut sharper and that stresses your joints. On rainy days where you might not be able to do that on natural grass, you'd probably still be ok on this new turf. That alone opens up more opportunity for injury.
 
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Roadtrip635 said:
Yes he was

"And, I'll never forgive Lee Roy Jordan smashing Brown in the teeth with his forearm, which required some serious dental work for #22."

https://www.inquirer.com/philly/columnists/vince_papale/Why_we_all_love_to_hate_the_Cowboys.html
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Jordan's tackle that sent Philly's HB Tim Brown out of the game with a mouthful of broken teeth..

was one of the best hits I ever saw.

Brown had been gouging us in the previous game of the season and in the rematch..

Jordan made sure he was not going to embarass the defense again.

Brown never really was the same after that game.

I am sure Jordan's hit would have been an ejection in today's rules.

Go Leroy..

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Flamma said:
I believe you're right. It might even be a bit more than half. But you have to admit, today's turf is much better than the previous version. I remember as a 12 year old kid being allowed to run around on Giants Stadium with that awful carpet. I would never want to be tackled on that surface. It reminded me of being tackled on a baseball infield with the added benefit of rug burn. Players must have hated that compared to grass.

IMO every stadium should have natural grass. They have the means to maintain it now. I have nothing to back up what I am about to say, but I do believe even the new turf causes more injuries. You can cut sharper and that stresses your joints. On rainy days where you might not be able to do that on natural grass, you'd probably still be ok on this new turf. That alone opens up more opportunity for injury.
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Can't speak for Giants Stadium, but old Texas Stadium was probably as bad or worse. Played high school games there back in the early 80's and it wasn't much different than playing out on the street. It was an absolutely horrible surface.
 
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Bullflop said:
Blaine Nye was one of my very favorite players back in the day! He always had something funny and really entertaining to comment about. The "Zero Club" was a perfect example of that. He was an extremely capable blocker and certainly a well-respected member of some great Cowboys teams. He was the guy who said Clint Longley was someone who had the advantage of one who "plays with the triumph of an uncluttered mind." :D
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He also said, "It's not whether you win or lose, but who gets the blame."
 
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plasticman said:
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There was a time when professional football was played on a field...of grass....sometimes during a heavy rain. One thing was for sure. By the end of the game you knew who the starters were, the special teams, and the backups that didn't play a single down.

This is Blaine Nye, RG for the Cowboys from 1968 to 1976, nine seasons. He was a starter for 7 seasons, made the Pro Bowl twice, started in three Super Bowls. During the last 6 seasons, he never missed a game.

I think this image gives the phrase "in the trenches", a significant perspective. The guy was obviously in a battle for three and a half hours. Covered from head to toe in mud, you can't see the star on his helmet, you can barely make out the six on his jersey.

This is one of my favorite images of the Dallas Cowboys. He is looking, I believe, at the Cowboy defense on the field with intense interest. It appears obvious that he outcome of the game has not been determined.

As a junior at Stanford, Nye was a defensive tackle, recording 104 tackles that season. He graduated from Stanford with a bachelor's degree in Physics.

Blaine Nye was drafted by the Cowboys in the 5th round as a DT. However, in 1970, the Cowboys needed help on the offensive line. After two games he was named the starter and he lined up next to Hall of Famer Rayfield Wright.

During his career, Blain Nje was co-founder of "The Zero Club" comprised of players who swore never to seek publicity or attention. They were also dedicated to doing nothing that required planning. Dan Reeves once requested membership in the Zero Club and he was flatly rejected simply for expressing an interest.

Nye was considered to be one of the smartest players in the league. During the offseasons he earned two Masters degrees, one in Physics and one in Business Administration. After retiring, Nye earned his PHD in Finance. His dissertation was titled "Demand and Pricing for Health Care and Guaranteed Insurability".

Nye founded Stanford Consulting Group. Inc. He performed numerous economic analyses and research, providing expert testimony in multiple areas including securities litigation, intellectual property, business litigation, damages, and insurance economics. Contrast this with the image you see.
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The first rule of Zero Club?.......you dont ask to be added to the Zero Club
 
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plasticman said:
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There was a time when professional football was played on a field...of grass....sometimes during a heavy rain. One thing was for sure. By the end of the game you knew who the starters were, the special teams, and the backups that didn't play a single down.

This is Blaine Nye, RG for the Cowboys from 1968 to 1976, nine seasons. He was a starter for 7 seasons, made the Pro Bowl twice, started in three Super Bowls. During the last 6 seasons, he never missed a game.

I think this image gives the phrase "in the trenches", a significant perspective. The guy was obviously in a battle for three and a half hours. Covered from head to toe in mud, you can't see the star on his helmet, you can barely make out the six on his jersey.

This is one of my favorite images of the Dallas Cowboys. He is looking, I believe, at the Cowboy defense on the field with intense interest. It appears obvious that he outcome of the game has not been determined.

As a junior at Stanford, Nye was a defensive tackle, recording 104 tackles that season. He graduated from Stanford with a bachelor's degree in Physics.

Blaine Nye was drafted by the Cowboys in the 5th round as a DT. However, in 1970, the Cowboys needed help on the offensive line. After two games he was named the starter and he lined up next to Hall of Famer Rayfield Wright.

During his career, Blain Nje was co-founder of "The Zero Club" comprised of players who swore never to seek publicity or attention. They were also dedicated to doing nothing that required planning. Dan Reeves once requested membership in the Zero Club and he was flatly rejected simply for expressing an interest.

Nye was considered to be one of the smartest players in the league. During the offseasons he earned two Masters degrees, one in Physics and one in Business Administration. After retiring, Nye earned his PHD in Finance. His dissertation was titled "Demand and Pricing for Health Care and Guaranteed Insurability".

Nye founded Stanford Consulting Group. Inc. He performed numerous economic analyses and research, providing expert testimony in multiple areas including securities litigation, intellectual property, business litigation, damages, and insurance economics. Contrast this with the image you see.
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I miss those days. I never played a game indoors or on fake turf. Elements are supposed to be part of the game.
 
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Back in the good ole days when linemen weighed 250lbs. When the fastest guys on the field ran a 4.5 and could jump 29 inches. When an ACL meant end of career and they barely lifted weights....not like the soft kids of today.
 

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Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:
Screw natural grass.

It brings back memories of Dallas losing to S.F. in the NFCCG in '95. The 49ers didn't beat us. That field beat us.
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We could have been the first and only team to win three straight SB if it wasn't for that field.
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Both teams played on that field.
 
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DandyDon52 said:
That was homefield advantage lol , and both teams had to play on it.
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Both teams played on that field.
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Welcome to Psych 101

When players play in horrible conditions, the refs tend to let things go a little more than they should. Remember the blatant pass interference on #88 that wasn't called.

I think some of the refs just want these games to be over so they can go home. I'm sure they get tired of running around in mud, rain, sleet, or snow also. Remember the tuck rule that sent the Pats to the Superbowl.

Under good game conditions I think Deion gets called for P.I. and Brady's tuck call gets called a fumble. There is just something about these refs and horrid conditions that makes them just lay eggs sometimes. Its psychological.
 
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