Twitter: Dallas finalizing deal with DE Everson Griffen

fivetwos · Aug 14, 2020

Still can't believe they pulled the trigger on Griffen.

Rayman70 · Aug 14, 2020

this is the kind of mentor DLAW NEEDS. This guy is a leader IMO. Just watching what he said in this 26 sec. video clip. Looking at his production, and the fact he IS a force at DE. You dont see him on twitter pushing his own line of merch. Its all about results with him. This is why MM and the defensive coaches pounded the table for him. They know what he brings. Maybe this will be motivational for Dlaw as well...friendly team competition.

fivetwos · Aug 14, 2020

Rayman70 said:
this is the kind of mentor DLAW NEEDS. This guy is a leader IMO. Just watching what he said in this 26 sec. video clip. Looking at his production, and the fact he IS a force at DE. You dont see him on twitter pushing his own line of merch. Its all about results with him. This is why MM and the defensive coaches pounded the table for him. They know what he brings. Maybe this will be motivational for Dlaw as well...friendly team competition.

Offenses are gonna have some problems for sure.

Dont forget if Aldon Smith has anything at all, and also the pups.

IMO it's up to Nolan to get these guys on the field together in a nickel rush package, not the same old predictable crap we've been running out there.

Dhragon · Aug 14, 2020

The REAL question is will Griffin be a HOT BOYZ???

The world is waiting with baited breath.

jrumann59 · Aug 14, 2020

GhostOfPelluer said:
He only has $1.1M of guaranteed money left in his deal. They might be able to get him down to 2-3M if they wanted, but I think they value him more than most fans do. I don't think he'd get more than 3M on the open market.

Probably but with all the reclamation projects and rookies they probably want to see what they have and if all the pieces work.

GhostOfPelluer · Aug 14, 2020

jrumann59 said:
Probably but with all the reclamation projects and rookies they probably want to see what they have and if all the pieces work.

I'm in no hurry to get rid of him, unlike some others here. I see the point about his salary being higher than you would want for the statistical production he brings, but I think we missed his presence last year greatly. He can win one-on-one matchups with interior blockers consistently and is a great depth piece/borderline starter.

jrumann59 · Aug 14, 2020

GhostOfPelluer said:
I'm in no hurry to get rid of him, unlike some others here. I see the point about his salary being higher than you would want for the statistical production he brings, but I think we missed his presence last year greatly. He can win one-on-one matchups with interior blockers consistently and is a great depth piece/borderline starter.

I agree his flexibility last year was missing. His contract is what it is, what we think and value is different than the powers that be. We are sitting on couches hemming and hawing, while the FO has a better idea of whats going on, regardless of what you think about the FO.

CWR · Aug 15, 2020

cowboygo said:
Will you look at that.

Its unbelievable, and then we have Aldon, and Woods coming off the bench, potentially Gregory as well. That Dline got nice real quick.

Stash · Aug 15, 2020

jrumann59 said:
I agree his flexibility last year was missing.

Where? At RDE, where Quinn led the team with 11.5 sacks? Crawford hasn't had that many sacks from that spot in the last four years.

And I didn't miss getting bashed in the run game with Crawford out there either. Like when Saquon Barkley was breaking off huge runs, or when the Rams put up 273 yards rushing in the playoffs.

His contract is what it is, what we think and value is different than the powers that be. We are sitting on couches hemming and hawing, while the FO has a better idea of whats going on, regardless of what you think about the FO.

"It is what it is". The ultimate, white-flag, I have no excuse comment.

jrumann59 · Aug 15, 2020

stasheroo said:
Where? At RDE, where Quinn led the team with 11.5 sacks? Crawford hasn't had that many sacks from that spot in the last four years.

And I didn't miss getting bashed in the run game with Crawford out there either. Like when Saquon Barkley was breaking off huge runs, or when the Rams put up 273 yards rushing in the playoffs.

"It is what it is". The ultimate, white-flag, I have no excuse comment.

Are you in the FO? So it is what it is you can scream what you want whenever you want but unless you have job in the FO why worry about it.

Crawford is an average DE always has been. But him missing last year meant too many snaps for the likes of Collins and Hill and others. Peoples fixation on his contract when this board as a collective do not have the power to move that needle is what my comment was about.

Stash · Aug 15, 2020

jrumann59 said:
Are you in the FO?

What does that matter? Do I have to blindly rubber stamp whatever they do or can I actually think for myself?

So it is what it is you can scream what you want whenever you want but unless you have job in the FO why worry about it.

Because I can see a stupid decision when I see it. And react accordingly. My fandom does not require a blind eye or making excuses for mistakes.

Crawford is an average DE always has been. But him missing last year meant too many snaps for the likes of Collins and Hill and others. Peoples fixation on his contract when this board as a collective do not have the power to move that needle is what my comment was about.

There are plenty of things in this world that I cannot change. It does not mean that I have to willingly shrug my shoulders and accept them. I will both praise the team when they make good moves - like I have for McCoy, Poe, Smith, and Griffen. But I also reserve the right to criticize where I feel it is warranted. And paying a backup defensive lineman as much as all of those guys qualifies.

xwalker · Aug 15, 2020

@GhostOfPelluer said:

He only has $1.1M of guaranteed money left in his deal. They might be able to get him down to 2-3M if they wanted, but I think they value him more than most fans do. I don't think he'd get more than 3M on the open market.

Crawford has zero guaranteed money remaining.

For 2020 he gets 8M if he stays and zero is he is cut.

There is a cap charge remaining from money that he has already been paid but that the Cowboys have not charged to the cap. That money hits the cap with or without him on the team. It is completely irrelevant to the decision to keep or cut him.

quickccc · Aug 15, 2020

fivetwos said:
Still can't believe they pulled the trigger on Griffen.

i still cannot believe got him so incredibly cheap ..and Everson after opting out of a 42 million dollar contract .
i wonder if he would have signed up with the Iggles or Seattle for such a bargain price ?
And both Cowboys and Griffen's camp did a helluva job keeping this surprised negotiations under silent wraps.
It clearly caught entire Cowboys nation by surprise.

MWH1967 · Aug 16, 2020

Never seen an official sign...did it happen?

Risen Star · Aug 16, 2020

GhostOfPelluer · Aug 17, 2020

xwalker said:
@GhostOfPelluer said:
Crawford has zero guaranteed money remaining.

For 2020 he gets 8M if he stays and zero is he is cut.

There is a cap charge remaining from money that he has already been paid but that the Cowboys have not charged to the cap. That money hits the cap with or without him on the team. It is completely irrelevant to the decision to keep or cut him.

Fair enough, I was equating guaranteed money and cap charge, understandably there is a difference.

CoachD · Aug 21, 2020

QuincyCarterEra said:
Aldon Smith has no guaranteed money. This move just as likely can be seen as Smith insurance.

Man that "if and when" thing is pretty powerful.

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