Saints vs Buccaneers

Swagger · Jan 17, 2021

ghst187 said:
Is the narrative now that Brees was a choker? Yes he won one SB but it was against the other biggest choker

100%. He lost a lot of Big games with very good teams around him.

JJHLH1 · Jan 17, 2021

Bigdog said:
That is very impressive but I don’t know in all of sports. I can think of others such as the US winning the American Cup for 132 years, the North Carolina women’s soccer team has a 102 game unbeaten streak, and UCLA men’s basketball winning 10 straight NCAA championships.

Those are all amazing achievements but not quite as impressive in my opinion. Still incredible though.

The other record that comes to mind as being on a similar level to Brady is Michael Phelps’ 23 Olympic Gold medals. No other athlete has more than 9.

Or maybe Cy Young’s 511 career wins. A pitcher rarely wins 20 games in a season now. They could win 20 games for 25 straight seasons and still be short of the record.

khiladi · Jan 17, 2021

And again, GB ran all over the Rams front at 188 yards. Against the Titans, they rushed for 234 yards completely annihilating them.

GB also lost to the Vikings two weeks after they played TB. That was probably their worst stretch of football, especially running the ball and turning it over. They went through multiple games of not even breaking 100 yards rushing. AR threw two picks against TB, including a pick 6.

Their last 7 games, six times they rushed well over 100 yards and have committed only 2 TOs.

GB now, is not the same team TB played them.

I just don’t see TB beating Lambeau at all, unless TB can run the ball and generate TOs like they did against the Saints. But GB is protecting the ball and imposing its will on the ground. Coupled with Lambeau and TB being a downfield passing attack, I wouldn’t be surprised if TB gets blown out.

CowboysFanSince88 · Jan 17, 2021

WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO SEE BRADY WIN ANOTHER SB?

Motorola · Jan 17, 2021

MarcusRock said:
Tampa Bay at Green Bay. Just like old times in the NFC Central way back when.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Minnesota Vikings
Green Bay Packers
Detroit Lions
Chicago Bears

Hawkeye19 · Jan 17, 2021

ShortRound131 said:
At 43 lol.

And when he finally retires as a QB... he goes into coaching and wins just enough SBs as a HC to edge Belichik out as the greatest HC to ever play the game lol

Qcard · Jan 17, 2021

Swagger said:
100%. He lost a lot of Big games with very good teams around him.

That’s a tough though fair assessment of Brees.

ghst187 · Jan 17, 2021

Swagger said:
100%. He lost a lot of Big games with very good teams around him.

Interesting. And true.

I’m just trying to stir a pot and want to hear thoughts.

zerofill · Jan 17, 2021

khiladi said:
And again, GB ran all over the Rams front.

They also lost to the Vikings two weeks after they played TB. That was probably their worst stretch of football, especially running the ball and turning it over. AR threw two picks against TB, including a pick 6.

Their last 7 games, six times they rushed well over 100 yards and have committed only 2 TOs.

I think if both teams were playing their best games... GB would win against TB. But, I hope they aren't playing their best game on GB side of the ball lol.

ghst187 · Jan 17, 2021

Swagger said:
100%. He lost a lot of Big games with very good teams around him.

ALSO....that SB be won....his defense was great that year and in that game

Chuck 54 · Jan 17, 2021

I don’t care how old, weak, brittle, slow Tom Brady is.
Not only is he the GOAT, but he is also the freakin’ god of the QB sneak! I’m still waiting to see him stopped on that play. It’s my favorite short yardage play (no offense to Moore’s jet sweep or end reverse) :huh:

, and I love watching Brady. He knows when and how to run it and is almost never stopped.

Blackspider214 · Jan 17, 2021

Swagger said:
Yes so true.
I never understood why there wasn't much pressure on the Saints to roll with Teddy B last season. Brees was already on the decline with his deck chair passes yet they are now stuck with a running gimmick gadget guy as their QB!?

Teddy B didn't even lose a start last year. In fact, he looked better than Brees. And in the playoff game, Taysom Hill was driving them down the field and hitting plays. Brees comes in and throws a pick that changes that game.

I get winning a Super Bowl is a hard but in the NFC, it is the definition if parity. If you are telling me how great your coach and Brees is and you are doubled up by Coughlin and Eli, then I have a hard time accepting that as great. Same goes for Rodgers. One appearance. One win. Brees era is no different from Flacco's to be honest.

Blackspider214 · Jan 17, 2021

ghst187 said:
ALSO....that SB be won....his defense was great that year and in that game

Yep. The pick 6 to win the game. The pick to keep the Vikings from winning that game before. The onside recovery. I think the Saints had some other big plays that Super Bowl, too.

I wish we could get a defense here that can make plays in the playoffs.

khiladi · Jan 17, 2021

zerofill said:
I think if both teams were playing their best games... GB would win against TB. But, I hope they aren't playing their best game on GB side of the ball lol.

Honestly, I’m just rooting for Josh Allen and the Bills and then Mahomes.. I’m done with these two QBs...

Motorola · Jan 17, 2021

Alweezy said:
Probably so.. but Tom Brady coming into our conference putting his feet up on the desk, and making himself at home in the NFCCG got to be sitting a certain way with everyone in the conference. Green Bay better come right next week.

Ok... rooting for the team that eliminated the Cowboys two out of the last three appearances in the postseason.

Alweezy · Jan 17, 2021

Blackspider214 said:
Only one appearance at that. The same amount as the flash in the pan Kaepernick. One of the most overrated players in sports. When defenses tighten down and the refs swallow their whistles more, he folds over and over again. Good riddance to Brees. And *** the Saints.

To be fair, Saints had a tremendous opportunity these past few years to get superbowls and they were on the wrong end of some bad breaks.

Probably would have gone in 2018, but the Vikings get a miracle. We as Cowboys fans get the worst timeline of a gift wrapped Eagles Superbowl appearance as a result.

Then 2019 the league pretty much botched the finish.

I still get disappointed to this day over the one "maybe" chance we had in 2014. Saints had 2 legit shots at a Superbowl erased in one play in consecutive years. That's rough.

jwitten82 · Jan 17, 2021

CowboysFanSince88 said:
WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO SEE BRADY WIN ANOTHER SB?

I'm a fan of Brady, he's the GOAT

GenoT · Jan 17, 2021

khiladi said:
To be fair, Tampa was loaded on offense and loaded up some more. He was awful last year in NE. NE is in complete rebuild mode offensively.

Yeah...Tom’s last (2019) NE team only went 12-4.

What was the Pats record this year, without TB?

Chuck 54 · Jan 17, 2021

CowboysFanSince88 said:
WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO SEE BRADY WIN ANOTHER SB?

For the same reason TED was willing to wear a little yellow rain suit to get his “gift” to impregnate his girlfriend. Come on!

khiladi · Jan 17, 2021

GenoT said:
Yeah...Tom’s last NE team only went 12-4.

What was the Pats record this year, without TB?

Tom was still awful. I didn’t say Cam was better. He was even more awful.

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