About these opt-outs

BoysfanfromCanada

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,970
Reaction score
6,392
I thought it would be fun to see who Dane Brugler had in his first 2021 mock right after the 2020 draft last year (he just posted his first 2022 mock). Lots of the players he was right on about (Lawrence being first, Sewell/Fields/Chase/Parsons rounding up the top 5), what stuck out more to me were the other top 12 players that I hadn't heard of from listening to the draft show. Lots of these players were taken after Round 5, some were even UDFAs
________________________________________________________________________________
6. New York Jets — *Shaun Wade, CB, Ohio State
Ohio State might have had three cornerbacks drafted in the first round of the 2020 draft, but Wade elected to return to school for the 2020 season. He has the athletic twitch and size to do everything from press to off-coverage, lining up inside and outside.

7. New York Giants — *Justyn Ross, WR, Clemson
The Giants need more size at wide receiver to help Daniel Jones push the ball downfield. Ross is tall and long with acrobatic ball skills, offering the speed that makes him a playmaker at every level of the field.

8. Detroit Lions — Marvin Wilson, DT, Florida State
Derrick Brown likely would have been a top-25 pick in the 2019 NFL Draft, but he went back for his senior year and became a top-10 pick (No. 7 overall to the Panthers). Wilson could very well take the same path to the NFL.

9. Las Vegas Raiders — *Tyler Shelvin, DT, LSU
It was impossible not to notice Shelvin when studying LSU’s defense last season. He needs to show more impact as a pass rusher this season, but with his size and power, he dominates the point of attack and shuts down the run.
________________________________________________________________________________

Now my questions is, had these players opted out of last season, would they still have been considered 1st round talents due to how well they played in 2019? Some of these guys may have opted out this year or not declared, I'm not sure (I did google most of them, and most were drafted late or FA), but that doesn't explain why they would have their value drop so much, while opt-outs like Parsons, Chase and Sewell were unaffected.

What if Sewell or Parsons or Farley played last year, had below expectation seasons, would they have been possibly 3rd or 4th round draft picks, or did they all show enough that their value would still have been high? You constantly hear of players that were at one time considered 1st round talent but dropped immensely when that didn't translate in college. I'm just wondering how sure are we that Parsons wouldn't have been one of those fallers?
 

John813

Well-Known Member
Messages
22,306
Reaction score
34,174
Well Ross had a medical condition* that almost ended his career, TBD how he plays this year.

I think someone like Wilson was hurt big time.

Shelvin I believe would of fallen anyways due to the lack of need of the big fat heavy 2 down guys.
IMO I think he could of gone that high had he shown pass rush ability.


*congenital fusion in his spine

**If he is cleared this year for CFB and returns to his old self I think Ross could be a worthy of a 1st round pick following medical checks out
 

joseephuss

Well-Known Member
Messages
27,907
Reaction score
6,808
Marvin Wilson didn't opt out. He suffered a leg injury during the 2020 season causing him to miss several games.

Shaun Wade didn't opt out. Initially he declared he was going to opt out, but changed his mind and played in 2020.
 

DBOY3141

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,340
Reaction score
5,955
Marvin Wilson didn't opt out. He suffered a leg injury during the 2020 season causing him to miss several games.

Shaun Wade didn't opt out. Initially he declared he was going to opt out, but changed his mind and played in 2020.
I think he is saying if they did opt out in 2020....would they have been drafted higher as Brugler said in his Mock draft for 2021.
 

BoysfanfromCanada

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,970
Reaction score
6,392
Well Ross had a medical condition* that almost ended his career, TBD how he plays this year.

I think someone like Wilson was hurt big time.

Shelvin I believe would of fallen anyways due to the lack of need of the big fat heavy 2 down guys.
IMO I think he could of gone that high had he shown pass rush ability.


*congenital fusion in his spine

**If he is cleared this year for CFB and returns to his old self I think Ross could be a worthy of a 1st round pick following medical checks out

Injuries are disappointing, but you'd think they'd keep some value regardless of injury. I mean Farley had back surgery to end his 2019 season, opted out, and had a 2nd surgery this year and he was still picked in the first round because he flashed enough (moreso Wilson than the career ending type)

I wonder why Dane had a fatty ranked so high since 1T/NTs have always had lower value
 

BoysfanfromCanada

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,970
Reaction score
6,392
I think he is saying if they did opt out in 2020....would they have been drafted higher as Brugler said in his Mock draft for 2021.

That, and should the teams that drafted players who opted out be worried they're not seeing a years worth of tape that could have possibly shown they're not first round talents.
 
Top