You cant teach discipline play, it is a result of attitude

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MM is never going to be more than he is...he may study various offensive schemes and get creative but time mgt and player penalties will never improve unless we can get an assistant to be the bad guy
 

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MM isn't going anywhere. I'm happy with Stephen's decision. You have to give a HC a chance. Garrett was here for a decade. What'd he give Dallas? At best, a handful of 8-8 seasons. Big Mac started in a pandemic & had to use what he had & still gave Dallas 6 wins. Only to follow with a 12-5 playoff birth the following. Give the man a chance & stop complaining until you walked in his shoes.
 
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It starts with drafting smart players and continues with signing smart vets in free agency. If a guy doesn't play smart with discipline before he wears the star, chances are he won't with the star.
 
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RodeoJake said:
It starts with drafting smart players and continues with signing smart vets in free agency. If a guy doesn't play smart with discipline before he wears the star, chances are he won't with the star.
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>>>keyword<<<< Smart players. That's the difference, they get it.
 
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malbis030347 said:
MM is never going to be more than he is...he may study various offensive schemes and get creative but time mgt and player penalties will never improve unless we can get an assistant to be the bad guy
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You can teach an attitude adjustment.......or your off the team......ask jimmy
 

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You can teach it, but is much harder with guaranteed contract....
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You are very correct. Not sure about today, but Marines and Army used to teach it all the time.
Break them down, build them up. Discipline individual for a while, then discipline the team. And if someone is a screwup, discipline the team while he watches. Only takes a few times before the team resolves the issue.

Problem is that you can't teach discipline without having discipline. Everyone sees it.
 

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Yes, you can teach discipline.
Discipline = time + repetition +practice + proper instruction
The issue isn't not being able to teach discipline. The issue is do you have the TIME to see it through.
A dumb person can become smart, but it may take time. And, unfortunately, time is a commodity that is precious. Everyone doesn't have the same amount of time to instill discipline. So if you have a stupid player who needs 10 years to unlearn bad habits, the coach may not have that much time, nor the player.
But you can teach discipline.
 
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I don't see why this is rocket science half the dag-on problem is pre-snap penalties.

For heaven's sake don't move till the ball snapped problem solved.

Draft or acquire in free agency a couple strong giant offensive lineman including a center that don't get run over and don't have to hold every play. Problem solved

Then force Dak to watch the divisional game between the bills and the Chiefs every day for a month till he learns how good quarterbacks play. When to run when to throw how long to hold the ball it's a crash course of elite quarterback play from both quarterbacks. Problem solved maybe. Lol
 
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While I would agree that by and large penalties are mental, I do think coaching can help solve a number of issues by teaching proper technique.

Improving technique will not solve all our penalty issues (I'm looking at you pre-snap penalties), but they could help tremendously.

JMHO
 
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Blackrain said:
I don't see why this is rocket science half the dag-on problem is pre-snap penalties.

For heaven's sake don't move till the ball snapped problem solved.

Draft or acquire in free agency a couple strong giant offensive lineman including a center that don't get run over and don't have to hold every play. Problem solved

Then force Dak to watch the divisional game between the bills and the Chiefs every day for a month till he learns how good quarterbacks play. When to run when to throw how long to hold the ball it's a crash course of elite quarterback play from both quarterbacks. Problem solved maybe. Lol
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Collins, Gregory, Tank, Tyron, Either Connor, Biadazz..Its certainley not rocket science its simple there is no recourse for stupid play on this team. I dont think it's a coaching problem...There is truth to leaving players saying the owner sets the lineup and usage...we just really dont want to believe it.
 
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CowboyFrog said:
Collins, Gregory, Tank, Tyron, Either Connor, Biadazz..Its certainley not rocket science its simple there is no recourse for stupid play on this team. I dont think it's a coaching problem...There is truth to leaving players saying the owner sets the lineup and usage...we just really dont want to believe it.
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Collins is lazy, Gregory took forever just to get clean from dope obviously not much discipline there, tank is a classic overpaid paycheck collector, Tyron has figured out how to get paid full salary and take off a few games every year.

And Connor and that freaking center are weak and worthless

But this is strictly just my opinion of these underachieving linemen
 
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Blackrain said:
Collins is lazy, Gregory took forever just to get clean from dope obviously not much discipline there, tank is a classic overpaid paycheck collector, Tyron has figured out how to get paid full salary and take off a few games every year.

And Connor and that freaking center are weak and worthless

But this is strictly just my opinion of these underachieving linemen
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Right but Jerry likes them so.....Hell everyone and thier dog knew Collins should be tried at LG but Jerry didnt want to force him to, because Collins was promised that transfer to tackle so he could make more...jesus just typing that makes me mad.
 

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Blackrain said:
Collins is lazy, Gregory took forever just to get clean from dope obviously not much discipline there, tank is a classic overpaid paycheck collector, Tyron has figured out how to get paid full salary and take off a few games every year.

And Connor and that freaking center are weak and worthless

But this is strictly just my opinion of these underachieving linemen
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daboyzruleperiod said:
MM isn't going anywhere. I'm happy with Stephen's decision. You have to give a HC a chance. Garrett was here for a decade. What'd he give Dallas? At best, a handful of 8-8 seasons. Big Mac started in a pandemic & had to use what he had & still gave Dallas 6 wins. Only to follow with a 12-5 playoff birth the following. Give the man a chance & stop complaining until you walked in his shoes.
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Just to nitpick, Garrett did much better than a handful of 8-8 seasons in his decade. He tied for the best season record ever by any Cowboys team and had a first round bye. He was a huge improvement and the best coach since Johnson. He wasn’t good enough to get us any further. He had reached his best, and it wasn’t good enough.
 
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daboyzruleperiod said:
MM isn't going anywhere. I'm happy with Stephen's decision. You have to give a HC a chance. Garrett was here for a decade. What'd he give Dallas? At best, a handful of 8-8 seasons. Big Mac started in a pandemic & had to use what he had & still gave Dallas 6 wins. Only to follow with a 12-5 playoff birth the following. Give the man a chance & stop complaining until you walked in his shoes.
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……I would but I’m pretty sure the arches are blown out of them
 
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