Jerry's Actions Do Not Align With "Win Now"

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We keep hearing from the Owner and General Manager key terms like "the man in the mirror", or "I can change", or "I don't have 30 training camps left", yet we consistently take a conservative approach to team building.

It doesn't align with the "Super Bowl or bust" lip service we keep hearing from this Front Office. If Jerry was truly fearing his own mortality and desperately wanted to ride off into the sunset with another Super Bowl victory, wouldn't all bets be on the table? It seems like we take the same train ride every season. We get to the draft, make a few good picks, sign lowly, aging, or anonymous players in free agency, overpay and extend our own overrated players, hype said players up all training camp, put together a mediocre to above-average product on the field, then have the season end disappointingly. Rinse and repeat every season. Line 'em up and do it again.

Now, we're entering a period of cap hell, with nothing to show for it. And furthermore, there is a large black cloud looming over your HC, the one you were so confident in that you didn't even give anyone else a genuine thought.

When was the last time Jerry made a truly "win now" move, as the operator of this franchise? It seems like every year, numerous impact players become available and it seems like every time, it's the Chiefs, Bucs, Rams, or even Packers making moves to grab them. These are the teams contending. I'm not saying what Jerry is doing is totally wrong per se, but trying to build solely through the draft and developing and (over)paying your own players can be a slow and arduous process. It hardly aligns with "win now."
 
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Oh, for sure, that is all that is involved, and the coach shuffle hasn't settled in to sort out all coaching, player, and cap flow plans haven't been organizationally reveiewed, studied, and directions taken as to team intent and needs.

This organization is not a bunch of fools, nor as ignorant as many meandering about and declaring all is stupidity.
 
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ClappingCarrot said:
We keep hearing from the Owner and General Manager key terms like "the man in the mirror", or "I can change", or "I don't have 30 training camps left", yet we consistently take a conservative approach to team building.

It doesn't align with the "Super Bowl or bust" lip service we keep hearing from this Front Office. If Jerry was truly fearing his own mortality and desperately wanted to ride off into the sunset with another Super Bowl victory, wouldn't all bets be on the table? It seems like we take the same train ride every season. We get to the draft, make a few good picks, sign lowly, aging, or anonymous players in free agency, overpay and extend our own overrated players, hype said players up all training camp, put together a mediocre to above-average product on the field, then have the season end disappointingly. Rinse and repeat every season. Line 'em up and do it again.

Now, we're entering a period of cap hell, with nothing to show for it. And furthermore, there is a large black cloud looming over your HC, the one you were so confident in that you didn't even give anyone else a genuine thought.

When was the last time Jerry made a truly "win now" move, as the operator of this franchise? It seems like every year, numerous impact players become available and it seems like every time, it's the Chiefs, Bucs, Rams, or even Packers making moves to grab them. These are the teams contending. I'm not saying what Jerry is doing is totally wrong per se, but trying to build solely through the draft and developing and (over)paying your own players can be a slow and arduous process. It hardly aligns with "win now."
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I think you're contradicting yourself here. You admit that we're in "cap hell" and the reason we're there is because Jerry has operated from a 'win now' position for years, always believing that we're just a player or two way. He's chosen the 'keep what you have' route while you seem to want that 'big splash' free agent.
 
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I think you're contradicting yourself here. You admit that we're in "cap hell" and the reason we're there is because Jerry has operated from a 'win now' position for years, always believing that we're just a player or two way. He's chosen the 'keep what you have' route while you seem to want that 'big splash' free agent.
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No we are in cap hell because we are overrating our own players and keep getting fleeced in negotiations. That was the sentiment I was trying to convey.
 
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ClappingCarrot said:
We keep hearing from the Owner and General Manager key terms like "the man in the mirror", or "I can change", or "I don't have 30 training camps left", yet we consistently take a conservative approach to team building.
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He thinks he's already got a SB roster, including the QB, and reiterated as much last week. He's also got a HC who has won a SB ring.

We may not agree with his assessments, I don't, but he's in win-now mode in his mind.
 
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CAP HELL!

we will have the same basic team we did this last season. With a fresh cost of turd polish, some rookies and some bargain free agents. I’m not sure why people who have been watching this team for as long as they have don’t understand the nature of this thing. The super bowl for me and the Joneses is the Forbes list.
 
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On paper the Cowboys had the talent to win now. Players underachieving and coaching continues to be an issue.
 
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ClappingCarrot said:
We keep hearing from the Owner and General Manager key terms like "the man in the mirror", or "I can change", or "I don't have 30 training camps left", yet we consistently take a conservative approach to team building.

It doesn't align with the "Super Bowl or bust" lip service we keep hearing from this Front Office. If Jerry was truly fearing his own mortality and desperately wanted to ride off into the sunset with another Super Bowl victory, wouldn't all bets be on the table? It seems like we take the same train ride every season. We get to the draft, make a few good picks, sign lowly, aging, or anonymous players in free agency, overpay and extend our own overrated players, hype said players up all training camp, put together a mediocre to above-average product on the field, then have the season end disappointingly. Rinse and repeat every season. Line 'em up and do it again.

Now, we're entering a period of cap hell, with nothing to show for it. And furthermore, there is a large black cloud looming over your HC, the one you were so confident in that you didn't even give anyone else a genuine thought.

When was the last time Jerry made a truly "win now" move, as the operator of this franchise? It seems like every year, numerous impact players become available and it seems like every time, it's the Chiefs, Bucs, Rams, or even Packers making moves to grab them. These are the teams contending. I'm not saying what Jerry is doing is totally wrong per se, but trying to build solely through the draft and developing and (over)paying your own players can be a slow and arduous process. It hardly aligns with "win now."
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The Cowboys don't say "Super Bowl or Bust". What they say is they want to win now, but also build something lasting that will provide a shot year after year. They never claim all or nothing.

I personally think that is the right attitude. The longer a team is viable and the more realistic shots it has, the better the odds of winning occasionally.

The problem is with the execution of the plan. They have not been able to accomplish this.
 
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ClappingCarrot said:
We keep hearing from the Owner and General Manager key terms like "the man in the mirror", or "I can change", or "I don't have 30 training camps left", yet we consistently take a conservative approach to team building.

It doesn't align with the "Super Bowl or bust" lip service we keep hearing from this Front Office. If Jerry was truly fearing his own mortality and desperately wanted to ride off into the sunset with another Super Bowl victory, wouldn't all bets be on the table? It seems like we take the same train ride every season. We get to the draft, make a few good picks, sign lowly, aging, or anonymous players in free agency, overpay and extend our own overrated players, hype said players up all training camp, put together a mediocre to above-average product on the field, then have the season end disappointingly. Rinse and repeat every season. Line 'em up and do it again.

Now, we're entering a period of cap hell, with nothing to show for it. And furthermore, there is a large black cloud looming over your HC, the one you were so confident in that you didn't even give anyone else a genuine thought.

When was the last time Jerry made a truly "win now" move, as the operator of this franchise? It seems like every year, numerous impact players become available and it seems like every time, it's the Chiefs, Bucs, Rams, or even Packers making moves to grab them. These are the teams contending. I'm not saying what Jerry is doing is totally wrong per se, but trying to build solely through the draft and developing and (over)paying your own players can be a slow and arduous process. It hardly aligns with "win now."
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We are always in win now mode.

Yet it has to be done conservatively because of the kid.

So we are stuck in nowhere mode.

It's like taking an upper and a downer at the same time.

Treadmill maybe?

I hear your point though.
 
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Jake said:
He thinks he's already got a SB roster, including the QB, and reiterated as much last week. He's also got a HC who has won a SB ring.

We may not agree with his assessments, I don't, but he's in win-now mode in his mind.
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Jake, do you doubt this Dallas roster has a lot of very good talent?

But what makes all fans think that there also isn't a functional level of knowledge about talent levels currently on the team; how it should be molded; and what needs to be improved?
 
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You can't say he hasn't made win now trades. Trading for Cooper, trading for Quinn, and even trading for Michael Bennett. We would have also landed Earl Thomas too had compensation not been so high. Sometimes it's the blockbuster trades you don't make that work out in the end.

In terms of splash signings they could have moved more money around but most free agents are just that because their existing teams don't feel they're worth the money. So rarely do free agent signings ever live up to their contract. The Cowboys have a couple of those themselves and they had inside information on the player.
 

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The fact that they force fed and started an injured Zeke over the other running backs to the detriment of the team tells you all you need to know about the attitude. Jerry wants to win but only within certain parameters. He isn't going to spend too much money on coaches, isn't going to embarrass himself, give up final say, etc. All of these parameters make winning challenging, which has resulted in these last 26 years.
 
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It is highly likely those believing Jerry Jones fears his own mortality are much more afraid of the time he has left than he does.

Each individual does not view mortality exactly the same.
 
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CCBoy said:
Jake, do you doubt this Dallas roster has a lot of very good talent?

But what makes all fans think that there also isn't a functional level of knowledge about talent levels currently on the team; how it should be molded; and what needs to be improved?
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This team has talent, but it is overrated by ownership, such that it doesn't understand why we can't win it all with mediocre coaching and a QB who is limited.Jerry thinks this is the 1995 team and even Barry Switzer could coach them to a title. In reality, it's closer to the 1998 team-- talented, but limited, especially in the coaching department and subsequently one and done in the playoffs. This year's team had talent enough for a12-5 record in a crappy division and one and done in the playoffs. It needed better QB play and better coaching to do anything more.
 
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This team has talent, but it is overrated by ownership, such that it doesn't understand why we can't win it all with mediocre coaching and a QB who is limited.Jerry thinks this is the 1995 team and even Barry Switzer could coach them to a title. In reality, it's closer to the 1998 team-- talented, but limited, especially in the coaching department and subsequently one and done in the playoffs. This year's team had talent enough for a12-5 record in a crappy division and one and done in the playoffs. It needed better QB play and better coaching to do anything more.
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Explain then how it lost by a field goal amount against a team in the AFC and NFC Championship Games...both.
 
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