Dallas 1 offense 1st qrt stats WC game

Denim Chicken said:

We had two offensive possessions in the 1st. First series was pathetic. Incomplete pass and then loss of yards by Zeke. Third and long, can't convert (sorry of the later half of the season).

Second series Dak hit Lamb for 32 yards (big play) negated by a penalty. Third and long, can't convert, rinse and repeat.

• 1st & 10 at DAL 25
  (10:54 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass incomplete short right [A.Al-Shaair].
• 2nd & 10 at DAL 25
  (10:50 - 1st) E.Elliott up the middle to DAL 22 for -3 yards (D.Greenlaw).
• 3rd & 13 at DAL 22
  (10:15 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Prescott sacked at DAL 12 for -10 yards (sack split by N.Bosa and S.Ebukam).
• 4th & 23 at DAL 12
  (9:38 - 1st) B.Anger punts 57 yards to SF 31, Center-J.McQuaide. T.Benjamin to SF 42 for 11 yards (D.Armstrong).
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• (4:53 - 1st) R.Gould kicks 65 yards from SF 35 to DAL 0. T.Pollard pushed ob at DAL 18 for 18 yards (D.Flannigan-Fowles). PENALTY on DAL-L.Gifford, Offensive Holding, 9 yards, enforced at DAL 18.
• 1st & 10 at DAL 9
  (4:53 - 1st) D.Prescott pass incomplete short right to A.Cooper (A.Thomas).
• 2nd & 10 at DAL 9
  (4:42 - 1st) D.Prescott pass short left to A.Cooper to DAL 19 for 10 yards (E.Moseley).
• 1st & 10 at DAL 19
  (4:10 - 1st) E.Elliott left tackle to DAL 23 for 4 yards (S.Ebukam).
• 2nd & 6 at DAL 23
  (3:39 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass incomplete short right to E.Elliott.
• 3rd & 6 at DAL 23
  (3:35 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass deep middle to C.Lamb to SF 45 for 32 yards (D.Greenlaw). PENALTY on DAL-C.Williams, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at DAL 23 - No Play.
• 3rd & 16 at DAL 20
  (3:14 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass short middle to C.Wilson to DAL 20 for 7 yards. FUMBLES, ball out of bounds at DAL 19.
• 4th & 10 at DAL 19
  (3:14 - 1st) B.Anger punts 59 yards to SF 22, Center-J.McQuaide, fair catch by T.Benjamin

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If you have time, please rewatch the first series on a slow mode watching only Schultz.

I would really like opinions as to if that's scheme or just him being awful.

Denim Chicken said:

We had two offensive possessions in the 1st. First series was pathetic. Incomplete pass and then loss of yards by Zeke. Third and long, can't convert (sorry of the later half of the season).

Second series Dak hit Lamb for 32 yards (big play) negated by a penalty. Third and long, can't convert, rinse and repeat.

• 1st & 10 at DAL 25
  (10:54 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass incomplete short right [A.Al-Shaair].
• 2nd & 10 at DAL 25
  (10:50 - 1st) E.Elliott up the middle to DAL 22 for -3 yards (D.Greenlaw).
• 3rd & 13 at DAL 22
  (10:15 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Prescott sacked at DAL 12 for -10 yards (sack split by N.Bosa and S.Ebukam).
• 4th & 23 at DAL 12
  (9:38 - 1st) B.Anger punts 57 yards to SF 31, Center-J.McQuaide. T.Benjamin to SF 42 for 11 yards (D.Armstrong).
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• (4:53 - 1st) R.Gould kicks 65 yards from SF 35 to DAL 0. T.Pollard pushed ob at DAL 18 for 18 yards (D.Flannigan-Fowles). PENALTY on DAL-L.Gifford, Offensive Holding, 9 yards, enforced at DAL 18.
• 1st & 10 at DAL 9
  (4:53 - 1st) D.Prescott pass incomplete short right to A.Cooper (A.Thomas).
• 2nd & 10 at DAL 9
  (4:42 - 1st) D.Prescott pass short left to A.Cooper to DAL 19 for 10 yards (E.Moseley).
• 1st & 10 at DAL 19
  (4:10 - 1st) E.Elliott left tackle to DAL 23 for 4 yards (S.Ebukam).
• 2nd & 6 at DAL 23
  (3:39 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass incomplete short right to E.Elliott.
• 3rd & 6 at DAL 23
  (3:35 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass deep middle to C.Lamb to SF 45 for 32 yards (D.Greenlaw). PENALTY on DAL-C.Williams, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at DAL 23 - No Play.
• 3rd & 16 at DAL 20
  (3:14 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass short middle to C.Wilson to DAL 20 for 7 yards. FUMBLES, ball out of bounds at DAL 19.
• 4th & 10 at DAL 19
  (3:14 - 1st) B.Anger punts 59 yards to SF 22, Center-J.McQuaide, fair catch by T.Benjamin

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Sack, penalty. Lol

killed a 30 yarder to lamb. Pathetic

How about those punts though?!

At least we got that going for us.

Yeah, our whole team crapped the bed that day.

QB, RB, WR, OL, Defense, penalties on both sides… you name it.

DandyDon52 said:

ok had to post this as it says alot, I was stunned by it. Also made me laugh 7 total yds lol. I bet I could take 11 guys from CZ and get into double digits at least !!!!!! In fact I bet
I could double what the cowboys had. Which would only be 14 yds, but hey thats twice what
the cowboy millionaires got.

I am gonna bash here cause they deserve it !
kellen moore Top OC of # 1 offense in nfl ! any owner gm sees this and they wont want him as HC.
Mike M. knows how to win championships !!!!!!!!! what happened here mike?? surely this isnt how?
Dak P. better than Romo
Zeke highest paid RB in the nfl !! man sure glad jones extended him !
Ceedee # 1 pick, great on yac, and top wr
cooper # 1 pick coooooo - now coop did get the 1st down and all the pass yds so he did something.
he did let one 1st down pass get knocked out of his hands though.

But overall this is due to game plan by mike and kellen, only 2 runs the rest passes and total mess.
play calling was not good , neither was execution, then add the penaltys.
In fact if you factor in the penalty/s, cowboys would have all negative stats.

This is horrible from a HC who boasts he knows how to win championships lol/
yet jones boys in all thier wisdom and football knowledge, have already announced they like what they have
and are keeping mike

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OK, I will be your RB and can get more than 1 yard but I need to select my OL because there's some here that just won't block for me. I also need to let you know, I plan on fumbling before I get hit.

MajesticRey said:

Yeah, our whole team crapped the bed that day.

QB, RB, WR, OL, Defense, penalties on both sides… you name it.

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Agreed. Was going to say the same thing.

Everybody loves to point fingers and place blame, but you can literally look to any part of the team that day that sucked it up and find fault.

America's Cowboy said:

You wonder why our Offense only rushed twice? How that affected this Offense and helped the 49ers D? How the 49ers with only their 4 down D-linemen consistently overpowered and stopped our rushing attack, forced a franchise high 14 penalties and gravely affected our pass?

ANSWER: our Oline

Fix the Oline, everything else will work much better. Football 101

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So what is wrong with our O line? Tyron, when he plays is one of the best left tackles, Martin is a perennial all pro. Lael is a road grader. The other two spots are suspect. Biadiz is small and plays weak. He gets bulldozed every rushing play and does not push anyone around on runs. McGovern is not the answer and Connor Williams is a penalty waiting to happen on most downs, but especially on important down and distance.
Add in a number of false starts by anyone of the above and you have a poop show. So how can we fill, the O line? We will not replace four lousy players with four studs. Why is it that other teams with much less talent seem to run the ball better than we do.

Coaching, coaching, coaching. From technique, to leverage, to play calling our coaches are pretty awful. Kellen started out the year with such success and then seemed to recede into Garrett land. I would call the plays before they happened. I made Romo look like a stiff when it cam to predicting when they would run. It would be so obvious and the plays were not pretty. We do not know how to run to the outside, we do not use Pollard, we rely on Zeke whose entire repertoire is limited to one yard and a crashing halt. Zeke has lost more than a step and is barely able to move through holes. His burst is gone and his ability to jump laterally is also gone. This means he is late to the hole and by the time he gets there the defense has closed the door.

Kellen is pass happy and gives up on the run because it does not generate any positive yardage.

The one thing Zeke does better than most running backs is pick up the blitz. He is a beast at that. Maybe we should put him in the H back position. He is no longer a No. 1 running back. We need to draft a running back to go with Pollard.

How our offense was NO. 1 is beyond me. In every important game they faded fast and were non existent. They did beat up the Eagles second and third string defense though. Remember when we said we had four weeks to fix the offense. We had the Eagles scrubs in the last game and Dak and the boys feasted and believed they were ready. Guess what? Not even close.

I do not see an easy fix at all.

Jeff

Cboyfan4ever said:

Dallas started slow for most of the year w/ the exception of a few games against the nfc least teams.

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Nope

CowboyRoy said:

Nope

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Yes, been slow starters for yrs.

Cboyfan4ever said:

Yes, been slow starters for yrs.

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So now you are changing your stance? You claim that the offense was slow starting most of the year is false.

CowboyRoy said:

So now you are changing your stance? You claim that the offense was slow starting most of the year is false.

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Slow this year,slow in previous yrs w/ Dak.Do you not watch the games?

DandyDon52 said:

ok had to post this as it says alot, I was stunned by it. Also made me laugh 7 total yds lol. I bet I could take 11 guys from CZ and get into double digits at least !!!!!! In fact I bet
I could double what the cowboys had. Which would only be 14 yds, but hey thats twice what
the cowboy millionaires got.

I am gonna bash here cause they deserve it !
kellen moore Top OC of # 1 offense in nfl ! any owner gm sees this and they wont want him as HC.
Mike M. knows how to win championships !!!!!!!!! what happened here mike?? surely this isnt how?
Dak P. better than Romo
Zeke highest paid RB in the nfl !! man sure glad jones extended him !
Ceedee # 1 pick, great on yac, and top wr
cooper # 1 pick coooooo - now coop did get the 1st down and all the pass yds so he did something.
he did let one 1st down pass get knocked out of his hands though.

But overall this is due to game plan by mike and kellen, only 2 runs the rest passes and total mess.
play calling was not good , neither was execution, then add the penaltys.
In fact if you factor in the penalty/s, cowboys would have all negative stats.

This is horrible from a HC who boasts he knows how to win championships lol/
yet jones boys in all thier wisdom and football knowledge, have already announced they like what they have
and are keeping mike

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Made you laugh? Serious question, would you want us to have a bad season next year so that Jerry makes changes and you can keep laughing......or, would you like to see us win a SB and be proven wrong and be laughed at?

DandyDon52 said:

ok had to post this as it says alot, I was stunned by it. Also made me laugh 7 total yds lol. I bet I could take 11 guys from CZ and get into double digits at least !!!!!! In fact I bet
I could double what the cowboys had. Which would only be 14 yds, but hey thats twice what
the cowboy millionaires got.

I am gonna bash here cause they deserve it !
kellen moore Top OC of # 1 offense in nfl ! any owner gm sees this and they wont want him as HC.
Mike M. knows how to win championships !!!!!!!!! what happened here mike?? surely this isnt how?
Dak P. better than Romo
Zeke highest paid RB in the nfl !! man sure glad jones extended him !
Ceedee # 1 pick, great on yac, and top wr
cooper # 1 pick coooooo - now coop did get the 1st down and all the pass yds so he did something.
he did let one 1st down pass get knocked out of his hands though.

But overall this is due to game plan by mike and kellen, only 2 runs the rest passes and total mess.
play calling was not good , neither was execution, then add the penaltys.
In fact if you factor in the penalty/s, cowboys would have all negative stats.

This is horrible from a HC who boasts he knows how to win championships lol/
yet jones boys in all thier wisdom and football knowledge, have already announced they like what they have
and are keeping mike

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This whole debacle is on the TEN TOE SLOTH! The 9ers came into this game with a defensive scheme and dared the SLOTH to beat them through the air and by looking at the stats HE COULDN'T GET IT DONE! The SLOTH was too slow in the pocket reading anything that pertain to football, however if there would have been a zero missing on his paycheck he would have spotted that in a NY minute. The NFL has all but undressed the SLOTH making him an easy mark every time he has to go up against a decent team in this league. The TEN TOE MEDIOCRE SLOTH will get his when he plays bottom-feeders which excites his fan club, but it does nothing for the real Cowboy Fan around the world.

Cboyfan4ever said:

Slow this year,slow in previous yrs w/ Dak.Do you not watch the games?

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This conversation is about this year. Which games did we start out slow? List them. Your claim was most. It’s false.

America's Cowboy said:

You wonder why our Offense only rushed twice? How that affected this Offense and helped the 49ers D? How the 49ers with only their 4 down D-linemen consistently overpowered and stopped our rushing attack, forced a franchise high 14 penalties and gravely affected our pass?

ANSWER: our Oline

Fix the Oline, everything else will work much better. Football 101

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"There was a lot of single coverage on CeeDee Lamb," Aikman explained. "I hate going back to (when I was playing) because nobody cares, but
You're going to complete the pass whenever you want," Aikman added. "(Michael Irvin) would've had 10 catches at halftime if they played us the way they played CeeDee Lamb in that game … The game is not that difficult. If I've got a great player at wide receiver and a corner is playing him in single coverage, throw him the ball. He's going to win most of the time."

FVSTONE said:

This whole debacle is on the TEN TOE SLOTH! The 9ers came into this game with a defensive scheme and dared the SLOTH to beat them through the air and by looking at the stats HE COULDN'T GET IT DONE! The SLOTH was too slow in the pocket reading anything that pertain to football, however if there would have been a zero missing on his paycheck he would have spotted that in a NY minute. The NFL has all but undressed the SLOTH making him an easy mark every time he has to go up against a decent team in this league. The TEN TOE MEDIOCRE SLOTH will get his when he plays bottom-feeders which excites his fan club, but it does nothing for the real Cowboy Fan around the world.

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this isnt all on dak, it was kellen and mike, bad game plan bad play calling etc.
Whole Team played poorly. Execution was bad and players were doing stupid things dropping passes etc, and that all comes back to how they are coached.

starcity214 said:

"There was a lot of single coverage on CeeDee Lamb," Aikman explained. "I hate going back to (when I was playing) because nobody cares, but
You're going to complete the pass whenever you want," Aikman added. "(Michael Irvin) would've had 10 catches at halftime if they played us the way they played CeeDee Lamb in that game … The game is not that difficult. If I've got a great player at wide receiver and a corner is playing him in single coverage, throw him the ball. He's going to win most of the time."

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CeeDee was in single coverage many times, BUT HE WAS COVERED. It's not like CeeDee had separation or was open. CeeDee is not Michael Irvin who used his body to get catching separation from any DBs. CeeDee is thinner, not as strong and has yet been able to figure out how to use his body to get separation the way Michael Irvin did. Troy Aikman was once again talking out of his ***.

starcity214 said:

"There was a lot of single coverage on CeeDee Lamb," Aikman explained. "I hate going back to (when I was playing) because nobody cares, but
You're going to complete the pass whenever you want," Aikman added. "(Michael Irvin) would've had 10 catches at halftime if they played us the way they played CeeDee Lamb in that game … The game is not that difficult. If I've got a great player at wide receiver and a corner is playing him in single coverage, throw him the ball. He's going to win most of the time."

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ok dak did play poorly in this game, BUT.....

1.Ceedee is not Irving, he is not even close, in fact he is just a average good wr, thats all.
2.kellen is not Norv Turner, he is not even close.
3.MM is not Jimmy Johnson, he is not even close.
4.Aikman at the time had the biggest OL in the NFL
5.Dallas back then had the # 1 defense in the NFL
6.Zeke is not Emmitt Smith ,he is not even close.
7.Dallas had a great run game, and norv knew how to use it.

So comparing to that team is a joke. Put dak on that team, and he would be a lot better than he is now with the bozo coaches he has.
Maybe not as good as troy, but much better.
It is a team game, and coaching matters, and people just seem to disregard it.

CouchCoach said:

OK, I will be your RB and can get more than 1 yard but I need to select my OL because there's some here that just won't block for me. I also need to let you know, I plan on fumbling before I get hit.

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ok I am good with all but the fumbling lol.
It wont hurt that much to get smashed to the turf a couple of times!

I could use the 3 stooges and do better than cowboys did.

Its the scheme , KM got exposed weeks ago ( Broncos) ..,

Made no adjustments, none .