News: CBS Ranks Zach Martin 1, Tyron Smith 2 in the NFL

John813 · Jun 23, 2022

plasticman said:
Best all time Cowboys offensive line?

T Tyron Smith
G Larry Allen
C Mark Stepnoski
G Zack Martin
T Rayfield Wright

Man, never thought Erik Williams would be not on the list but I think you're right having Wright over big E.

RonnieT24 · Jun 23, 2022

fivetwos said:
I'm a Step fan but I think Fred was better.

I'd have to agree. Fredbeard was every bit the technician Step was but 50 pounds heavier. If they were equal above the neck Fredbeard's superior body breaks the tie.

John813 · Jun 23, 2022

fivetwos said:
I'm a Step fan but I think Fred was better.

I think if Fred never got GBS and was still playing his individual accolades would of propelled him over Step with his individual accolades and team success.

It's a good debate though. Frederick was a beast with little flaws.

Hardline · Jun 23, 2022

I wanted Quenton Nelson so bad in that draft to pair with Zack Martin. He was my #1 target even though the Cowboys had what was considered the best OL in the league at the time.

fivetwos · Jun 23, 2022

America's Cowboy said:
No way. Fredbeard was very good, but Stepnoski was a multi-SB champion Center for the Great Wall of Dallas.

That's a good point, but many times guys are better as part of a successful unit than individually.

Not at all a slight to Stepnoski, who I was a big fan of, but he was replaced by Donaldson seamlessly here, and when he went to Houston/Tennessee, it wasn't like their line was great.

We lost Fred two years ago and are still reeling from it.

It's a apples/oranges comparison for sure, I just give Fred a slight nod on one vs the other individually.

Proof · Jun 23, 2022

John813 said:
I think if Fred never got GBS and was still playing his individual accolades would of propelled him over Step with his individual accolades and team success.

It's a good debate though. Frederick was a beast with little flaws.

really sucks honestly. what a player, and wonder how things may have gone w/ him still around.

fivetwos · Jun 23, 2022

John Fitzgerald and Tom Rafferty were excellent players as well.

It's very difficult to compare players from different eras.

john van brocklin · Jun 23, 2022

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:
The Cowboys always have other weaknesses that need addressing before they can even think about replacing Tyron. Some of the other OLinemen may need to be replaced before he does.

True, I wished they would have shored up the OL
This off season.

Parcells4Life · Jun 23, 2022

HanD said:
while he is prone to nagging injuries and isn't at the same level he was maybe 4 years ago, his demise is greatly exaggerated imo. those wanting to cut him at his current salary are crazy imo. he's on a bargain contract when he's playing healthy.

His demise comes late in the season when his body breaks down from wear and tear of first 3 months. He can’t hold up for a full season anymore.

And Zach’s back is getting to be the same way

terra · Jun 23, 2022

Parcells4Life said:
His demise comes late in the season when his body breaks down from wear and tear of first 3 months. He can’t hold up for a full season anymore.

And Zach’s back is getting to be the same way

I call BS on your slam as regards Zack. But then you apparently WANT our guys to go down.

PAPPYDOG · Jun 23, 2022

Brooksey said:
When Tyron Smith is playing, he's still has elite numbers. Last year he only allowed 2 sacks and 10 pressures in 416 pass attempts, #1 pressure rate in the league. He ranked #2 overall at left tackle while missing 5 games with a sprained ankle.

Left Tackle Pressure Rate
Tyron Smith 1.8%
Trent Williams 2.9%
Rashawn Slater 3.6%
Jordan Mailata 4.1 %

We all know Zach Martin is the best on the interior, link is below.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...t-williams-zack-martin-headline-stacked-list/

Wow and I thought our offline sucked???? :huh:

Swagger · Jun 23, 2022

Zekeats said:
So we got the best oline still, top 5 TE, top 5 play caller, our WR are awsome too, QB top 5......whats the problem then?

QB isn't top 5...and is the problem on offense

Swagger · Jun 23, 2022

PAPPYDOG said:
Wow and I thought our offline sucked????

Weird isn't it!

ChuckA1 · Jun 23, 2022

It's great the Cowboys have had two centers we can all argue about. Both were exceptionally talented players

Parcells4Life · Jun 23, 2022

terra said:
I call BS on your slam as regards Zack. But then you apparently WANT our guys to go down.

Last 2 years he’s had to miss time with the back beginning in November. Same as we saw with the start to Tyrons issues.

Risen Star · Jun 23, 2022

Brooksey said:
When Tyron Smith is playing, he's still has elite numbers. Last year he only allowed 2 sacks and 10 pressures in 416 pass attempts, #1 pressure rate in the league. He ranked #2 overall at left tackle while missing 5 games with a sprained ankle.

Left Tackle Pressure Rate
Tyron Smith 1.8%
Trent Williams 2.9%
Rashawn Slater 3.6%
Jordan Mailata 4.1 %

We all know Zach Martin is the best on the interior, link is below.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...t-williams-zack-martin-headline-stacked-list/

Cowboys! in your faces.

nyc-cowboy · Jun 23, 2022

fivetwos said:
Not at all a slight to Stepnoski, who I was a big fan of, but he was replaced by Donaldson seamlessly here,

But to be fair, Its not like Donaldson was just any Joe Schmo center, yes he was at the tail end of his career but he was a 6 time Pro Bowler and even made the PB the two years he was with Dallas.

But yes I give the slight edge Fred.

gimmesix · Jun 23, 2022

Brooksey said:
When Tyron Smith is playing, he's still has elite numbers. Last year he only allowed 2 sacks and 10 pressures in 416 pass attempts, #1 pressure rate in the league. He ranked #2 overall at left tackle while missing 5 games with a sprained ankle.

Left Tackle Pressure Rate
Tyron Smith 1.8%
Trent Williams 2.9%
Rashawn Slater 3.6%
Jordan Mailata 4.1 %

We all know Zach Martin is the best on the interior, link is below.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...t-williams-zack-martin-headline-stacked-list/

And that's why we're in no hurry to replace him. 12 games with Tyron is better than 17 games without.

Maybe Tyler develops into a worthy tackle replacement when Tyron finally can't go no more, but there are few tackles in the league on Tyron's level so it's a lot to expect for anyone to be able to fill his shoes. I just hope that whoever has to cover the position the games Tyron will miss can do an adequate job.

DallasDW00ds0n · Jun 23, 2022

No one questions his ability.

rambo2 · Jun 23, 2022

Zekeats said:
So we got the best oline still, top 5 TE, top 5 play caller, our WR are awsome too, QB top 5......whats the problem then?

The problem is that our fans are idiots. Just read what they post here on a daily basis.

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