cowboyjoe
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First, let me say that I am disturbed over the cowboys drafting murray. I could be wrong about this, but parcells got rid of lacewell. As soon as parcells left, jerry jones got lacewell back into cowboys organizaton. Now, we heard from jerry's own lips yesterday that Lacewell was one of the best talent scouts for linebackers ever and on his advice we chose Carter.
I do think Carter will be a good linebacker when fully healthy. My question to you zoners is this. What in the heck is going on in our scouting department. Read some of these clips about Lacewell how he ruined some of our drafts after jimmy johnson left.
News > Cowboys remove Larry Lacewell from his position as director of pro and college scouting.
JAIME ARON
Associated Press
IRVING, Texas - Although Larry Lacewell is about to turn 68 and has been planning to retire for months, the departure of the Dallas Cowboys' scouting director can be considered the first of many changes for the team this offseason.
And it could be another sign of the power base in the organization shifting to coach Bill Parcells.
Lacewell announced his retirement Thursday, ending a 13-season stay that spanned from the final two years of coach Jimmy Johnson to the first two under Parcells.
Aside from personnel decisions, Lacewell's impact on the club stemmed from his close relationship to owner Jerry Jones. A fellow Arkansas native, Lacewell was a trusted adviser to Jones in areas well beyond evaluating talent. He'll remain a part-time adviser, but his absence from team headquarters likely means more influence for Parcells.
http://www.cowboycards.com/Articles/Lacewell.asp
Lacewell, Scouting Director For Past 12 Seasons Calling It Quits (Dallas Cowboys.com)
After finishing 6-10 last season, changes were undoubtedly expected for the Cowboys this off-season. The first big change will start in the scouting department, where longtime Director of College and Pro scouting Larry Lacewell will retire from the position. Lacewell, a longtime friend of Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones, came to the Cowboys in 1992 and has overseen the last 11 drafts here at Valley Ranch. The Cowboys have yet to announce a replacement, although this move was expected in the organization. Lacewell, who turns 68 in February, sold his house in Dallas last spring and recently bought some property in Hot Springs, Ark.
But a change in leadership might be good, considering some of the recent draft history for the Cowboys. This past year, the Cowboys saw little overall production from their eight draft picks. While Julius Jones, the club’s top pick, did return from a shoulder injury to finish the season strong, rushing for 819 yards in eight games, the Cowboys didn’t get anything out of their next three picks. Second-round offensive tackle Jacob Rogers only played sparingly on special teams and never on offense, while third-round guard Stephen Peterman suffered a torn ACL in preseason and missed the entire season. Fourth-round pick Bruce Thornton was inactive for the first three games before suffering a torn ACL in his first game of the season.
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/dallas_cowboys_scouting_director_larry_lacewell_retires/
Last I knew it, Tom Ciwoskwi was our Director of Scouting and doing a pretty good job when cowboys listened to him. Not like when scouts told wade no, and wade said, I think i can make Jason Williams fit our scheme. We all know how that turned out. Was Larry Lacewell in on that jason wiilliams pick bending jerry jones ear. Same thing with robert brewster, when we kept trading down. Is that little book that Jerry Jones has in december, is that book some of Larry Lacewell's work and not so much our own scouting departments, but bending of the ear from lacewell to jerry jones?
Next, we have the comments from Jerry Jones on RB Murray that Coach Barrry Switzer is one of the best talent judges etc in pro football business, so with his praises of Murray we took the RB from Oklahoma who is injury prone.
So, actually zoners who is running the draft, and who has more influence talking in jerry jones ears to pick these players? I am not questioning the Carter pick, I think we all know if he didnt get injured he would have been a top 15 to 20 pick in first round, but still sounds like former scouting directors and former head coaches like switzer are bending jerry jones ears and he is listening to them instead of our own scouting department.
would someone please explain this to me. Are the Dallas Cowboys and inside cowboys organization so blind to our running game, there was no place for our running backs to run inside due to our inept OGs etc... How can you draft a rb that has been injury prone in his career, to not taking an elite OG like will rackley or a NT like Kendrick Ellis etc... The rbs cant run if there is no holes to run through.
Here are some videos of press conference and where jerry jones is talking about switzer and larry lacewell i think.
http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/multimedia_center.cfm?id=A3FAE0A6-BCB4-0DAA-23AF26B07CA9BE8F
http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/multimedia_center.cfm?id=A45863E6-0277-35C6-9D653AB13FB5EA6C
http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/multimedia_center.cfm?id=A4058263-FF75-0777-36913012D98F25AC
I understand part of thinking behind murray, they want to push barber or choice and felix and have a downhill runner while getting a special teams player, but murray hasnt returned punts since high school i think no sure about kickoffs. And at best I see murray as a 3rd down situation back, i just think you could have gotten better on offensive line with a will rackley OG/OT or kendrick ellis at NT/DE, gotten a full time starter by midseason maybe. Just frustrated now.
Please someone explain this to me!
I do think Carter will be a good linebacker when fully healthy. My question to you zoners is this. What in the heck is going on in our scouting department. Read some of these clips about Lacewell how he ruined some of our drafts after jimmy johnson left.
News > Cowboys remove Larry Lacewell from his position as director of pro and college scouting.
JAIME ARON
Associated Press
IRVING, Texas - Although Larry Lacewell is about to turn 68 and has been planning to retire for months, the departure of the Dallas Cowboys' scouting director can be considered the first of many changes for the team this offseason.
And it could be another sign of the power base in the organization shifting to coach Bill Parcells.
Lacewell announced his retirement Thursday, ending a 13-season stay that spanned from the final two years of coach Jimmy Johnson to the first two under Parcells.
Aside from personnel decisions, Lacewell's impact on the club stemmed from his close relationship to owner Jerry Jones. A fellow Arkansas native, Lacewell was a trusted adviser to Jones in areas well beyond evaluating talent. He'll remain a part-time adviser, but his absence from team headquarters likely means more influence for Parcells.
http://www.cowboycards.com/Articles/Lacewell.asp
Lacewell, Scouting Director For Past 12 Seasons Calling It Quits (Dallas Cowboys.com)
After finishing 6-10 last season, changes were undoubtedly expected for the Cowboys this off-season. The first big change will start in the scouting department, where longtime Director of College and Pro scouting Larry Lacewell will retire from the position. Lacewell, a longtime friend of Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones, came to the Cowboys in 1992 and has overseen the last 11 drafts here at Valley Ranch. The Cowboys have yet to announce a replacement, although this move was expected in the organization. Lacewell, who turns 68 in February, sold his house in Dallas last spring and recently bought some property in Hot Springs, Ark.
But a change in leadership might be good, considering some of the recent draft history for the Cowboys. This past year, the Cowboys saw little overall production from their eight draft picks. While Julius Jones, the club’s top pick, did return from a shoulder injury to finish the season strong, rushing for 819 yards in eight games, the Cowboys didn’t get anything out of their next three picks. Second-round offensive tackle Jacob Rogers only played sparingly on special teams and never on offense, while third-round guard Stephen Peterman suffered a torn ACL in preseason and missed the entire season. Fourth-round pick Bruce Thornton was inactive for the first three games before suffering a torn ACL in his first game of the season.
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/dallas_cowboys_scouting_director_larry_lacewell_retires/
Last I knew it, Tom Ciwoskwi was our Director of Scouting and doing a pretty good job when cowboys listened to him. Not like when scouts told wade no, and wade said, I think i can make Jason Williams fit our scheme. We all know how that turned out. Was Larry Lacewell in on that jason wiilliams pick bending jerry jones ear. Same thing with robert brewster, when we kept trading down. Is that little book that Jerry Jones has in december, is that book some of Larry Lacewell's work and not so much our own scouting departments, but bending of the ear from lacewell to jerry jones?
Next, we have the comments from Jerry Jones on RB Murray that Coach Barrry Switzer is one of the best talent judges etc in pro football business, so with his praises of Murray we took the RB from Oklahoma who is injury prone.
So, actually zoners who is running the draft, and who has more influence talking in jerry jones ears to pick these players? I am not questioning the Carter pick, I think we all know if he didnt get injured he would have been a top 15 to 20 pick in first round, but still sounds like former scouting directors and former head coaches like switzer are bending jerry jones ears and he is listening to them instead of our own scouting department.
would someone please explain this to me. Are the Dallas Cowboys and inside cowboys organization so blind to our running game, there was no place for our running backs to run inside due to our inept OGs etc... How can you draft a rb that has been injury prone in his career, to not taking an elite OG like will rackley or a NT like Kendrick Ellis etc... The rbs cant run if there is no holes to run through.
Here are some videos of press conference and where jerry jones is talking about switzer and larry lacewell i think.
http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/multimedia_center.cfm?id=A3FAE0A6-BCB4-0DAA-23AF26B07CA9BE8F
http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/multimedia_center.cfm?id=A45863E6-0277-35C6-9D653AB13FB5EA6C
http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/multimedia_center.cfm?id=A4058263-FF75-0777-36913012D98F25AC
I understand part of thinking behind murray, they want to push barber or choice and felix and have a downhill runner while getting a special teams player, but murray hasnt returned punts since high school i think no sure about kickoffs. And at best I see murray as a 3rd down situation back, i just think you could have gotten better on offensive line with a will rackley OG/OT or kendrick ellis at NT/DE, gotten a full time starter by midseason maybe. Just frustrated now.
Please someone explain this to me!