How do our best players stack up against the best players at that position?

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QB- Dak- 16 middle of the pack QB
RB- Zeke- 3
WR- Cooper- 7
LT- T. Smith- 10 because he is never healthy anymore.
RG- Martin- 1
C- Frederick- 10 because of what he went through if hes in the top 10 thats a great year
DE- DLaw- 8
CB- B. Jones- 5
LB- J. Smith- 10
LB- LVE- 10

Garrett - 20
Marinelli- 15
 
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Crazed Liotta Eyes said:
Yeah, didn't hold up so much as an adult. Did you ever see Food of the Gods? Scared the crap out of me at 9 and had me laughing at 30 when I re-watched. Now the Excorsist...shudder.
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Truly enjoyed watching these as a kid. Back when movies were somewhat cheasy but interesting and entertaining. I remember them oldies but goodies scary and monster movies used to come out on a show call BOO. Every Saturday they would show 2 matinee back-to-back scary/monster movie classics. That show was the bomb! ;):D:cool::popcorn:


 
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jazzcat22 said:
Also someone or a few will say it does not matter where the players rank, because we don’t have the coaching to win woth them.
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And that is a very valid point.
Coaching Matters a lot. After watching Belicheats defense dominate a much more talented offense in the Super Bowl, everyone must realize that by now!
 
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QB- Dak- 5 (Dak with Cooper played like a top 5 qb. He went 7-1, and played well vs the Rams 2nd half, our D & Zeke didn't).
RB- Zeke- 1 (#1 rb's show up vs the Rams & use their speed on the edges, which he refused to do.)
 
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Hadenough said:
QB- Dak- 16 middle of the pack QB
RB- Zeke- 3
WR- Cooper- 7
LT- T. Smith- 10 because he is never healthy anymore.
RG- Martin- 1
C- Frederick- 10 because of what he went through if hes in the top 10 thats a great year
DE- DLaw- 8
CB- B. Jones- 5
LB- J. Smith- 10
LB- LVE- 10

Garrett - 20
Marinelli- 15
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Dak is not a middle of the pack qb with Cooper & a much better OL (which sucked last year in protection.) He is top 5. Only Brady has more wins since 2016.
 
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To be a dominant team in today's NFL, a team has to have the following dominant players:

QB
3 Special Play Makers - Offense
3 Offensive Linemen
2 Defensive Linemen pass rushers
3 Defensive Playmakers


Dallas

QB - yes
Play Makers - Offense:: Cooper, Elliott, and Gallup - yes
3 Offensive Linemen: Smith, Martin, Frederick - yes
2 Dominant Pass Rushers: Lawrence, Quinn - yes
3 Defensive Playmakers: Smith, Vander Esch, Jones - yes...Sean Lee


Some would argue that the best Cowboys defender just signed a contract for 100 million dollars, Tank Lawrence. Some would even argue that their best defender doesn’t get the name recognition because teams tried to phase him out of the game plan by not throwing his way last season in corner back Byron Jones.

Considering last year and what most saw while watching the games, the best players on defense are arguably the two young linebackers, Leighton Vander Esch and Jaylon Smith. That’s just it though, they have cornerstone defenders on each of three levels...

https://thelandryhat.com/2019/04/08/dallas-cowboys-trade-2019-nfl-draft/
 
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QB- Dak- 10-15
RB- Zeke- 1-3
WR- Cooper- 10
LT- T. Smith- Top 5
RG- Martin- 1
C- Frederick- 1-3
DE- DLaw- 5
CB- B. Jones- 5-10
LB- J. Smith- Top 5
LB- LVE- 5-10
 
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QB- Dak- 8-10
RB- Zeke- 1-2
WR- Cooper- 5
LT- T. Smith- 2-3 if healthy
RG- Martin- 1
C- Frederick- 1-2 if healthy
DE- DLaw- 5
CB- B. Jones- 3
LB- J. Smith- 9
LB- LVE- 10 (but potential to move into top 5 with a year under his belt)

Garrett - 29 (the guy doesn't make adjustments)
Marinelli - 20 (see reason above)
Richard - 2-3 (completely transformed our D)
JJ - 1 Great businessman and owner
SJ - 10 Not the smartest, but we could do worse
 
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1-5 Elliott, Martin, Yosemite, Lawrence
6-10 Cooper, J Smith, Vander Esch, Big Smitty, Lord Byron
11-15 Prescott, Witten

With his receiving corps, Prescott could move into the 6-10 area.

If Lawrence is 100%, he could put Quinn into that 11-15 area.
 
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I think the bigger question would be who do the patriots have on their defense and offense that is top 10 or even top 5. Maybe Brady and Edelman on offense? They weren't stellar with sacking the QB last year but they did rank pretty high in take aways. All goes to show that you don't need war daddies or whatever the hell you want to call defensive ends so long as you can contain an offense and take away the ball consistently.
 
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jazzcat22 said:
You are asking the wrong group of fans.
As I can tell you now, most on here, the usuals, will rate all of our players near or at the bottom.
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We get both extremes. There are others who convince themselves every year that uncle Jerry has put together an awesome roster, but he just can't find the right coach. :muttley:
 
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PJTHEDOORS said:
Dak is not a middle of the pack qb with Cooper & a much better OL (which sucked last year in protection.) He is top 5. Only Brady has more wins since 2016.
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Sorry dude I don't see it! He hasn't yet started throwing players open or even releasing the ball before the player comes out of his break. When he gets to the 10 yard line he is only a threat to run or throw a screen he doesn't throw into tight windows even on a short field. Top 10 QBs do all the above. Dak needs I'm to get there. Daks great win loss record is still running on fumes from 2016.
 
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Q_the_man said:
Trying to evaluate our talent compare to league best. Where would you rank these players at their position.

Just put a number or top 5/10 next to their name as far as ranking for their position..

QB- Dak- 10
RB- Zeke- 1
WR- Cooper- 7
LT- T. Smith- Top 5, don't know all the LT's
RG- Martin- 1
C- Frederick- 1 pre injury, still going top 10 for now
DE- DLaw- 5
CB- B. Jones- 6
LB- J. Smith- Top 10
LB- LVE- top 10

I know everyone's list is going to be different I just wanna see how some of you guys value our talent.

By my list we have 10 players in the top 10 of the league at their position.
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Good with what you have

TE... 10-15 and that may be high
DT... mish mash 15-20
CB... Awuzei 10-15 with upside
RT... Collins10-15
RDE... Quinn Top 10 at one time?
 
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Hadenough said:
Sorry dude I don't see it! He hasn't yet started throwing players open or even releasing the ball before the player comes out of his break. When he gets to the 10 yard line he is only a threat to run or throw a screen he doesn't throw into tight windows even on a short field. Top 10 QBs do all the above. Dak needs I'm to get there. Daks great win loss record is still running on fumes from 2016.
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Dak with Cooper was elite, with NO pass protection all year.

 

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PJTHEDOORS said:
Dak is not a middle of the pack qb with Cooper & a much better OL (which sucked last year in protection.) He is top 5. Only Brady has more wins since 2016.
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I got to hear the four other QBs in the Top 5.
 
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