True Contenders vs Contenders

nightrain · Oct 8, 2019

Playmaker247 said:
I mean I know everyone wants to rag on the cowboys right now but how are PHI and LA true contenders over Dallas? They’ve looked awful at times just like us.

nope......nothing special in philly or LA

MysteryIceGuro · Oct 8, 2019

CouchCoach said:
Hootchie mama, you are really down on the Cowboys. That's some pretty miserable company you've got them with but I still think they're a contender but they do have to beat a team with a winning record.

I don't know about that... If they let any RB that's ever lived run on them and get 4+ TD's, it may be a little tough for them to be a true contender. Align that with the turnovers we've had (5 interceptions (Including the one taken away) and 2 fumbles) in the past 2 weeks does not speak of good fortune. This team is right around the Cardinals if I'm being honest. Lots of talent, yes, but the execution is Cardinals level of play.

MysteryIceGuro · Oct 8, 2019

nightrain said:
nope......nothing special in philly or LA

LA doesn't really look that bad honestly. They almost came back and won that game against Seattle had their kicker made it in. The Bucs game was an anomaly, but they tried to come back in that game as well. Philly isn't all that great to me IMO, but they look more put together than a lot of current teams (including Dallas) so I can see why they're over a lot of teams.

ryanbabs · Oct 8, 2019

Aerolithe_Lion said:
By your definition we’d be unstoppable, because we never got spanked at home.

Dude, no one here cares about the freaking Eagles and don't come on here talking smack. Not cool...just go back to the Eagles board.

Aerolithe_Lion · Oct 8, 2019

ryanbabs said:
Dude, no one here cares about the freaking Eagles and don't come on here talking smack. Not cool...just go back to the Eagles board.

Apparently you guys do care, because I was answering a question a cowboys fan had about those very eagles.

Diehardblues · Oct 8, 2019

CouchCoach said:
Yep, they play in the Toilet Tank Bowl. Heard Miami was thinking of starting their cheerleaders on the DL but they're fearful the Skins will get too many holding calls and negate the advantage.

I’ll take the Skins. New HC might want to win .lol

Bobhaze · Oct 8, 2019

CouchCoach said:
Instead of a power ranking, I am grouping NFC teams into one of these two groups. What's this true contender you speak of? Glad you asked.

It isn't about the record as much as having seen them play. A true contender looks like one of the playoff teams right now. Operative words there are "right now" because as these teams play each other, this is going to be fluid. For instance, SF was a contender because of the record until I saw them play last night and they look for real to me, true contender. For a contender to step up, they need to beat a true contender or several of their co contenders but the true contender is based on the playoff system of only 6 teams.

My true contenders are: SF, SEA, LAR, NO, GB and PHL.

My contenders are: CAR, CHI, DET, MIN and DAL.

BTW, I relayed the wrong information about tie breakers in a previous post. The division record only comes into play in the case where 3 or more teams tie. If 2 tie, it's head to head and then the conference record and then common games.

The upcoming games against PHL are obviously critical but almost as critical are the games against those fellow contenders in the North. Right now, the Cowboys need for GB and NO to win their divisions to take them out of the tiebreaker scenario and if the Cowboys should tie with PHL and they split, all of these NFC games come into play.

This week's contenders' face off: PHL v MIN, SF v LAR and DET v GB. If you are wondering which team we should root for, we need PHL to get more losses, LAR to win since we play them and GB because we need for them to win their division.

Too early to talk playoffs? No, I don't think so because this takes us out of the ongoing dragging the last loss over the concrete until it's bled out and focuses our attention back on the season. There are a lot of big games yet to be played to set the playoff stage.

Winning against NFC opponents is certainly critical. And It’s too early to throw in the towel on a season 5 games in when you’re tied for first in the division. Although I completely understand the frustration for fans.

We’ve seen this Garrett sequel time and again, yet somehow Jerry sees an Oscar winner in his red headed coach with 2 wild card wins as his crown in a 9 year resume. That’s not exactly a “blockbuster” resume.

Diehardblues · Oct 8, 2019

Bobhaze said:
Winning against NFC opponents is certainly critical. And It’s too early to throw in the towel on a season 5 games in when you’re tied for first in the division. Although I completely understand the frustration for fans.

We’ve seen this Garrett sequel time and again, yet somehow Jerry sees an Oscar winner in his red headed coach with 2 wild card wins as his crown in a 9 year resume. That’s not exactly a “blockbuster” resume.

Garrett has illustrated time and time again he can rally the troops as long as he has a QB.

Jets is the medicine we need this week setting us up for big showdown next week. In probably our 1st Must WIn game. That’s for you Coach

charron · Oct 8, 2019

We are on the same level with Philly and The Rams at least, we certainly are not worse.

Playmaker247 · Oct 8, 2019

Aerolithe_Lion said:
injuries. We’ll be alright in a few weeks. Against Atlanta we didn’t have 2 of our top 3 cornerbacks, starting MLB, pro bowl DT, Desean Jackson, Or Alshon Jeffrey and still only lost when Nelson Agholor dropped game winning touchdown. Lions are 2-1-1 and almost beat KC for their only loss, and we lost to them on a last second drive too, without those same players AND our best CB.

So if we’ve looked bad despite our only losses being mistakes on final drives, imagine when we clean it up. By your definition we’d be unstoppable, because we never got spanked at home.

Y’alls secondary is trash, healthy or not so that doesn’t matter lol. That “pro bowl” DT is out for the here so he's not coming back, and yall lost to one of the worst teams in the league in Atlanta. Calm down. Y’all have just as many, if not more problems than us.

Aerolithe_Lion · Oct 8, 2019

Playmaker247 said:
Y’alls secondary is trash, healthy or not so that doesn’t matter lol. That “pro bowl” DT is out for the here so he's not coming back, and yall lost to one of the worst teams in the league in Atlanta. Calm down. Y’all have just as many, if not more problems than us.

Whats worse? The team that can go into lambeau and beat Green Bay with a trash secondary, or the team that loses at home to GB with a good secondary?

MojaveJT · Oct 8, 2019

Sarge said:
Philadelphia??? They have like the worst pass defense in the league. Atrocious.

Wasn’t NO a pretty bad pass defensive team as well? That didn’t work out so well for us.

Plus Philly always plays Dallas tough. It’s not going to be a cakewalk.

Playmaker247 · Oct 8, 2019

Aerolithe_Lion said:
Whats worse? The team that can go into lambeau and beat Green Bay with a trash secondary, or the team that loses at home to GB with a good secondary?

Ahh the good ol transitive property, I know you’re smarter than this dude. If you think thats a valid argument as to why the eagles are better than the cowboys then you need to take a logic class.

Jake · Oct 8, 2019

Niners looked great last night but needed a 4th quarter TD to beat Mason Rudolph their previous game. Their other two wins are over Cincinnati and the Bucs.

Not sold on them yet.

Aerolithe_Lion · Oct 8, 2019

Playmaker247 said:
Ahh the good ol transitive property, I know you’re smarter than this dude. If you think thats a valid argument as to why the eagles are better than the cowboys then you need to take a logic class.

Everyone keeps using the ‘I know your smarter than this’ comeback. But if you repeatedly have to use it, maybe you don’t know?

Sarge · Oct 8, 2019

CouchCoach said:
Let's wait and see if the Coiwboys can exploit that pass defense.

Neither team is a contender is my point.....at this juncture.

T-RO · Oct 8, 2019

CouchCoach said:
My true contenders are: SF, SEA, LAR, NO, GB and PHL.

My contenders are: CAR, CHI, DET, MIN and DAL.

More silly prisoner-of-the-moment posting.

--We beat New Orleans last year and would beat them on a neutral field right now
--We beat Philly TWICE last year and will beat them agin in 10 days
--We beat Seattle last year

Praxit · Oct 8, 2019

..my hope in this, is that Dallas got it together mid season last year. Pulled off a great run against all odds. I just don't know, if they got it in them to do it again?

They looked shocked on the sidelines Sunday, ..hadn't seen that since Coach Cupcake days. I got questions enigma scratching my head, but will have to wait a few more games.

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