JG Coaching Philosophy Breakdowns

efh313 · Oct 17, 2019

Here is my simple breakdown regarding what I see from this HC. Please feel free to weigh in with your own. I look forward to the discussion!

The proof is in the pudding.
After every game, win or lose, JGs tag line is:
“We’re gonna learn from this experience, focus on ourselves, and be ready to play better next week.”

For those that can’t decipher this, this is a middle school coaching philosophy that dictates that you do what you do best REGARDLESS of your opponents strengths and weaknesses and trust in the PROCESS that the team that EXECUTES better will end up on top at the end of 4 quarters.

That philosophy works great when you are teaching fundamentals, another favorite line of JG (“We have to get back to the fundamentals!”) and when your opponents are children LEARNING those fundamentals right along your own team. At the NFL, PROFESSIONAL LEVEL, it is a joke!

We should not be focusing on fundamentals!!!
We should be focusing on how to eviscerate an opposing team with specific schemes, skills, and techniques that couch coaches like myself can’t even follow designed to take advantage of our opponent’s weaknesses.

But in order to do that... we’d have to quit focusing on ourselves and after a decade it’s apparent JG just doesn’t get it...

Ranching · Oct 17, 2019

My breakdown is he sucks!!!

Future · Oct 17, 2019

You could have written this in 2011.

catiii · Oct 17, 2019

Ranching said:
My breakdown is he sucks!!!

Ahh the Parcells explanation~! I like it!!

cowboy_ron · Oct 17, 2019

He would first have to understand coaching before he could have a coaching philosophy.

Tangle_Foot · Oct 17, 2019

The philosophy is beat your man and when you fail come off the field and slap my hands :facepalm:

efh313 · Oct 17, 2019

Future said:
You could have written this in 2011.

Wasn’t a member then or would have! Lol

TooTall_Jones · Oct 17, 2019

yeah, old topic and im sure just about every fan, sports commentator and nfl analyst recognizes Garret's many shortcomings after a decade.

here is great article comparing him to Belichick. not even in the same league

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2019/10/15/20916395/coach-garrett-vs-bill-belichick

Great coaches study and game plan specifically each week for their opponent...NOPE, not JG...he just concentrates on improving "US" lmao

This stopped working in 1980s

doomsday9084 · Oct 17, 2019

I think the fundamental issue is the 90's Cowboys. JG was a part of that as was Jerry. Jerry wants to go back to it.

If you were a fan back then, you will remember that Dallas didn't have a complicated playbook on offense or defense. They were just bigger and faster than the other team and would dictate to them. I think a lot of JG's "get back to the fundamentals" comments come from that AND Jerry eats it up because that philosophy got him 3 super bowls.

Its not going to work. The 90's Cowboys were a unique combination of talent. They were formed from several years of tanking, a great trade for Walker and great drafting. The lack of salary cap let Jerry keep them together for more than 2 years. Other small factors like the fact that the NFL was big into having large 3-4 linebackers playing 2 gap schemes where the Cowboys came in and looked for speed allowed them to pick and choose whomever they wanted.

In order to win nowadays, you need to follow the Patriots model. Get guys on their rookie deals and use them up and trade them before they get fat and slow on a big extension. Game plan every week with schemes specifically set up to take advantage of weaknesses. Have a true franchise QB and build around him. The Pats have the system beat and its primarily because they have a coach who does everything . . . . which is kind of the opposite of a coach that does nothing.

Side note: Even with the 90's boys, they got away with a simple playbook because they gave nothing away pre-snap on either side of the ball. They would start in the I and you couldn't tell if it was going to be an Emmitt run or a 50 yard bomb off play action to Irvin. The defense was much the same in that they gave away nothing pre-snap. They would even blitz out of base formation. This is a lesson Garrett did not learn.

IheartRomo · Oct 17, 2019

I've been of the opinion that Garrett should be fired for at least 5 years (as I believe most here probably have been or are now). At this point, I almost feel bad for him in a way. He's so clearly in over his head - I think at this point he knows that he has no real answers or innovation to counter what coaches are doing to us but he continues to be paid so slogs along. The curtain was pulled back long ago on Garrett and yet he continues to bumble along waiting to be put out of his misery.

Whyjerry · Oct 17, 2019

Future said:
You could have written this in 2011.

Hah - So true. Fans were sold that JG was going to be some revolutionary offensive genius. He'll learn on the fly but be great. Instead we get a guy that has zero offensive creativity. A dash of Machiavelli. A relentless suck up. He is so bad that each year more responsibility is stripped away. Yet 10 years later here we are.

Whyjerry · Oct 17, 2019

IheartRomo said:
I've been of the opinion that Garrett should be fired for at least 5 years (as I believe most here probably have been or are now). At this point, I almost feel bad for him in a way. He's so clearly in over his head - I think at this point he knows that he has no real answers or innovation to counter what coaches are doing to us but he continues to be paid so slogs along. The curtain was pulled back long ago on Garrett and yet he continues to bumble along waiting to be put out of his misery.

That 4-12 season should have been it. You lose a QB and absolutely tank???

IheartRomo · Oct 17, 2019

Whyjerry said:
That 4-12 season should have been it. You lose a QB and absolutely tank???

Couldn't agree more. 3-1 with Romo and 1-11 without him that season. If you're completely dependent on your starting QB to not be the worst team in football, then what are you bringing to the table as a coach? Even if we won the SB I'd fire him while he's hoisting the Lombardi.

charron · Oct 17, 2019

efh313 said:
Here is my simple breakdown regarding what I see from this HC. Please feel free to weigh in with your own. I look forward to the discussion!

The proof is in the pudding.
After every game, win or lose, JGs tag line is:
“We’re gonna learn from this experience, focus on ourselves, and be ready to play better next week.” Generic speak to the media on purpose. Helps control the media-fan circus

For those that can’t decipher this, this is a middle school coaching philosophy that dictates that you do what you do best REGARDLESS of your opponents strengths and weaknesses and trust in the PROCESS that the team that EXECUTES better will end up on top at the end of 4 quarters. Are you suggesting we couldn't have excecuted better on a few plays that could have changed the outcome? Make a 30 yard FG we win, or is that not about execution?

That philosophy works great when you are teaching fundamentals, another favorite line of JG (“We have to get back to the fundamentals!”) and when your opponents are children LEARNING those fundamentals right along your own team. At the NFL, PROFESSIONAL LEVEL, it is a joke! Fundamental football is important. Why do you think they practice tackling? shouldn't they know how by now or is that not important to you?

We should not be focusing on fundamentals!!!
We should be focusing on how to eviscerate an opposing team with specific schemes, skills, and techniques that couch coaches like myself can’t even follow designed to take advantage of our opponent’s weaknesses. Wr's and TE are getting open but are having trouble catching the ball. it doesn't help that gallop is having to jump 3 feet in the air to try and get hands on the ball or jarwin running left having to reach back to catch the ball. Gallop is catching less than 70%, Smith less than 60, cooper is just above 70% only Witten and Zeke are in the mid 80% range. Scheme it up all you want but open is open and if you cant get a completion no window dressing matters.

But in order to do that... we’d have to quit focusing on ourselves and after a decade it’s apparent JG just doesn’t get it...

gjkoeppen · Oct 17, 2019

efh313 said:
Here is my simple breakdown regarding what I see from this HC. Please feel free to weigh in with your own. I look forward to the discussion!

The proof is in the pudding.
After every game, win or lose, JGs tag line is:
“We’re gonna learn from this experience, focus on ourselves, and be ready to play better next week.”

For those that can’t decipher this, this is a middle school coaching philosophy that dictates that you do what you do best REGARDLESS of your opponents strengths and weaknesses and trust in the PROCESS that the team that EXECUTES better will end up on top at the end of 4 quarters.

That philosophy works great when you are teaching fundamentals, another favorite line of JG (“We have to get back to the fundamentals!”) and when your opponents are children LEARNING those fundamentals right along your own team. At the NFL, PROFESSIONAL LEVEL, it is a joke!

We should not be focusing on fundamentals!!!
We should be focusing on how to eviscerate an opposing team with specific schemes, skills, and techniques that couch coaches like myself can’t even follow designed to take advantage of our opponent’s weaknesses.

But in order to do that... we’d have to quit focusing on ourselves and after a decade it’s apparent JG just doesn’t get it...

I see so when there were glaring missed tackles you do think in team meetings and/or practice that the head coach and/or position coaches aren't going to get on those who missed those tackles and say you know how to tackle but if you need a refresher course on the fundamentals of tackling we can provide that. Or finding something wrong with a VERY true statement of the team that executes better will win. On any play it only takes a single player to not do his job for the entire play to get blown up. How many times has that happened where if only the one player on a 3rd down did his job and they convert and kept drives alive and gone on to score and then win that game instead of not getting that score and losing the game.

Lastly there was another coach who had gave very similar pressers after games and he was never questioned on it even after having some losing seasons or 500 seasons, Tom Landry. He was HUGE on the process and fundamentals. He also used to say the team doesn't need to listen to what others say, they only need to listen to what I say. Yes Garrett has made mistakes just like EVERY OTHER coach including Landry, Lombardi, bellicheat, Carrol or any other coach you want to name. There never has been and will never be a coach that doesn't make mistakes.
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charron · Oct 17, 2019

IheartRomo said:
Couldn't agree more. 3-1 with Romo and 1-11 without him that season. If you're completely dependent on your starting QB to not be the worst team in football, then what are you bringing to the table as a coach? Even if we won the SB I'd fire him while he's hoisting the Lombardi.

If that was the case then why would most teams pay their QB top money? Every team is dependant on their QB ability to make some plays. The better the defense the less your QB has to do, the better talent around the QB the easier it is for him to help make some plays. Sometimes backups have ability to make plays in the right situations.

OmerV · Oct 17, 2019

efh313 said:
Here is my simple breakdown regarding what I see from this HC. Please feel free to weigh in with your own. I look forward to the discussion!

The proof is in the pudding.
After every game, win or lose, JGs tag line is:
“We’re gonna learn from this experience, focus on ourselves, and be ready to play better next week.”

For those that can’t decipher this, this is a middle school coaching philosophy that dictates that you do what you do best REGARDLESS of your opponents strengths and weaknesses and trust in the PROCESS that the team that EXECUTES better will end up on top at the end of 4 quarters.

That philosophy works great when you are teaching fundamentals, another favorite line of JG (“We have to get back to the fundamentals!”) and when your opponents are children LEARNING those fundamentals right along your own team. At the NFL, PROFESSIONAL LEVEL, it is a joke!

We should not be focusing on fundamentals!!!
We should be focusing on how to eviscerate an opposing team with specific schemes, skills, and techniques that couch coaches like myself can’t even follow designed to take advantage of our opponent’s weaknesses.

But in order to do that... we’d have to quit focusing on ourselves and after a decade it’s apparent JG just doesn’t get it...

I would prefer the Cowboys terminate Garrett, but this is just getting caught up in stock answers given to the press, and really doesn't capture everything in Garrett's head or what is going on in the locker room or practice field or in discussions between coaches. Garrett doesn't talk to the media because he has a desire to bare his soul and tell them exactly what he and the team is thinking or plans to do, he does it because it is a job requirement, so he gives benign stock answers to fill his obligation.

MojaveJT · Oct 17, 2019

And this is why Garrett is playing checkers while others are playing chess.

A major key to winning consistently is to understand what opposing teams are doing. If you neglect these and focus only on yourself and blaming for lack of execution then you get the results we’ve seen here for many years.

It may work sometimes against inferior teams and coaches. But the great coaches above Garrett, watches what JG teams consistently do and circumvent that to take him out. Meanwhile Garrett thinks it’s lack of execution when in reality it’s the opposing team understanding the situations and reverse engineering it to defeat JG.

efh313 · Oct 17, 2019

@charron
Quality response. Thank you.

I am not suggesting we forgo working out the fundamentals. These guys are athletes and they need to ensure their bio machines are in top working order each and every week to prevent serious injury.
I am not saying that a slight few changes, ie better execution, wouldn’t have made a difference. Shoot, a better call by an official would have us winning by two instead of losing. The chips fall where they will.
What I am saying is week after week (after week 3) I see the SAME schemes getting easily read and beat on both offense and defense.
Which leads me to draw the conclusion that maybe his generic speech for media only... is ACTUALLY what he thinks!!
“The Cowboys will win because we are the Cowboys and will out execute you.”
I want to see different Defenses face off against run or pass offenses. And I want to see our creative offense from Week 1-3.
Our team is not a talentless joke, it is a coach less joke.

CowboyRoy · Oct 17, 2019

efh313 said:
Here is my simple breakdown regarding what I see from this HC. Please feel free to weigh in with your own. I look forward to the discussion!

The proof is in the pudding.
After every game, win or lose, JGs tag line is:
“We’re gonna learn from this experience, focus on ourselves, and be ready to play better next week.”

For those that can’t decipher this, this is a middle school coaching philosophy that dictates that you do what you do best REGARDLESS of your opponents strengths and weaknesses and trust in the PROCESS that the team that EXECUTES better will end up on top at the end of 4 quarters.

That philosophy works great when you are teaching fundamentals, another favorite line of JG (“We have to get back to the fundamentals!”) and when your opponents are children LEARNING those fundamentals right along your own team. At the NFL, PROFESSIONAL LEVEL, it is a joke!

We should not be focusing on fundamentals!!!
We should be focusing on how to eviscerate an opposing team with specific schemes, skills, and techniques that couch coaches like myself can’t even follow designed to take advantage of our opponent’s weaknesses.

But in order to do that... we’d have to quit focusing on ourselves and after a decade it’s apparent JG just doesn’t get it...

I just dont think they bother going over their opponent much in the way of strength and weaknesses and forming a game plan to exploit those things. And I dont think they do much in the way of trying to fool the opponent. Difficult to imagine anyone doesnt do this in the NFL but the evidence is too overwhelming at this point.

Its more based on Paranoia. Like how we have 5 turnovers against the Packers. So I have a feeling they probably went into the next week and said: "Jets suck and cant score, so all we have to do is limit the turnovers and we easily win this game. And with two losses, a young guy like Moore is ready to do what he is told. So he does what Garrett wants and they simply decide to just get back to running Zeke on first down, dont take chances, ect....ect...

Probably figure that the defense will play great and all they have to do is stop the run.

Of course the Jets game plan to win the game and exploit all weaknesses. They know what the Cowboys are going to do because they do the same thing every week. Everything is already set up for an upset.

Cowboys play right into their hands. Garrett just assumes "next man up" like with Chaz Green and doenst bother to scheme in protections for the tackles. We just are going to go with what we always do and beat the man in front of you. Of course the backups cant.

First half we are already down 14 points and all off a sudden its panic mode. All the Cowboys had to do in this game was get an early 7 point lead and it would have been all but over.

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