How did Xavier Su'a Filo play?

Tussinman

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That didn't happen.

Connor Williams has 5 total penalties for the season. He had 2 penalties in the Skins game and 1 or zero in all other games.
You don't get your name called for ONLY penalities.

I would expect someone as seasoned as you to know this ..... (lol at your post having 8 likes, there's really 8 users on this forum that really read it as me saying "oh yeah he has over 25 penalties this year).

What a freaking joke.
 
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He was really good in pass protection. PFF gave him a 90.1 in pass protection..........a score Connor Williams can only dream about. He scored 60.1 in run blocking which is better than Connor usually scores.
Are random back-up got a better PFF grade fresh off the bench then Williams has had his entire career. Not only that "passing protection" is where Williams was supposedly suppose to have a huge edge on him

Let's see the zoners try to spin this one (Zoners: "buh bu you guys are just picking on him for no reason" :rolleyes::rolleyes:)
 
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It's just an uninformed fan narrative.

Connor Williams and Tyron have the same number of penalties this season.

Personally, I think what happens is that Williams might get called out by announcers who don't really know what they are seeing or are using Williams as the talking point because he is convenient. Williams is not perfect, he still has real issues defending against powerful DTs and he is not going to move anybody who is strong at the point of attack out of the way but his technique is improving, almost game to game, and he is an extremely smart player. You put him in motion and he is getting better and better at his craft.

JMO
 

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he is an extremely smart player. You put him in motion and he is getting better and better at his craft.
Agreed. He would of done much better in Bill Callahans zone blocking scheme. The current scheme of get dirty/mean and beat the guy in front of you is going to get him killed or injured again for the 4th straight season
 

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Agreed. He would of done much better in Bill Callahans zone blocking scheme. The current scheme of get dirty/mean and beat the guy in front of you is going to get him killed or injured again for the 4th straight season

I don't feel like that's who we are in our blocking scheme. In fact, I think we are moving away from that. We don't hook up man on man and beat guys anymore. Everything is a reach block, everything is influence blocks. Look at years past, look at what we did in 2016 and how we blocked guys. We physically dominated guys, we put guys on the ground. You don't see near as much of that. I actually think Williams would be much better in the way we used to block, I agree with that. He is mobile and cut blocks would helf him a ton because he's good at them. I am not sure our OL scheme is right for us and our personnel. Going to have to see....
 

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Are random back-up got a better PFF grade fresh off the bench then Williams has had his entire career. Not only that "passing protection" is where Williams was supposedly suppose to have a huge edge on him

Let's see the zoners try to spin this one (Zoners: "buh bu you guys are just picking on him for no reason" :rolleyes::rolleyes:)

I think most folks recognize Connor as the weak link on the OL. Filo just doesn't have that premium draft pick spent on him. But thats how Dallas runs things. Thank god Kelen Moore was injured when Romo went down, or Dak never would have got the opportunity.
 

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He had 2 carries the entire game. You saw 2 carries and formed an unbiased conclusion? Doubt it.

when a RB of Zekes caliber is dancing its only because there is no hole to run through.
Zeke is a one cut and go runner. This line has not been moving guys out of the holes which is clear to anyone who does a video analysis of the games. Try YouTube. Or this forum for some video breakdowns of the lines run blocking performance recently.

Part of me wants Zeke to have to sit out a game so everyone can watch Pollard run into the wall of defenders over and over for a game.

I hate coming off like this but the reality is anyone blaming Zeke for this running game is either an anti Zeke troll or doesn’t understand this game fully. These are the only 2 options I’m afraid.

I'm all in for Pollard taking over for Zeke. In fact, I would bench Zeke right now because he has been absolutely terrible this year.

I did watch Youtube. The holes are there. But Zeke has been hesitant and seems likely to dance around rather than hit the hole hard. He is no the same anymore. Perhaps he is out of shape.

If one game is like this than I can see your point. But its the entire season. Zeke has not been able to shake of tackles like he used to. Thats on him.
 

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Seemed to play well! Hopefully it keeps Connor on the bench


Agree. i paid attention to him, and he more than held his own. I wonder if Looney can play other positions as having healthier / experienced O Line on the field, even if rotated
should help with all the injuries we have.
 

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Cowboys Oline was best when we used zone blocking schemes. They are not road-graders like they're being used currently.

Pass protection was great yesterday.
 

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Apparently Connor Williams wasn't holding back our running game.

Conner and Xavier look better this year vs last, at least in protection, but they are still nowhere close to dominant run blockers

this system really needs a dominant at LG to really hum

that said, I'm more concerned about the line calls than I am with the talent and Colombo's promise of nasty attitudes has not been filled
 

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I think most folks recognize Connor as the weak link on the OL. Filo just doesn't have that premium draft pick spent on him. But thats how Dallas runs things. Thank god Kelen Moore was injured when Romo went down, or Dak never would have got the opportunity.
Xavier was picked in the 1st round lol.
 

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Conner and Xavier look better this year vs last, at least in protection, but they are still nowhere close to dominant run blockers

this system really needs a dominant at LG to really hum

that said, I'm more concerned about the line calls than I am with the talent and Colombo's promise of nasty attitudes has not been filled

Xavier, Fred & Martin can road grade if the coaches would call more power plays, iso, HB/FB dive , Trap etc etc etc
 

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Xavier was picked in the 1st round lol.
You completely botched his post, you literally read none of it correctly

1. He wasn't a 1st round pick, he was 2nd round

2. We did NOT draft him. What "premium pick spent" did we use to acquire him ? ("Filo just doesn't have that premium draft pick spent on him")

3. The point he was making was cowboys forcing or not making adjustments because there trying to justify a premium pick choice at a position of need (makes the front office look bad to bench or replace a fringe top 50 pick at a position of need). Most coaches/front offices that run a tight ship will say "screw draft position where playing the best player" or "if your not performance is not satisfactory where bringing in other people for looks"
 
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You completely botched his post, you literally read none of it correctly

1. He wasn't a 1st round pick, he was 2nd round

2. We did NOT draft him. What "premium pick spent" did we use to acquire him ? ("Filo just doesn't have that premium draft pick spent on him")

3. The point he was making was cowboys forcing or not making adjustments because there trying to justify a premium pick choice at a position of need (makes the front office look bad to bench or replace a fringe top 50 pick at a position of need). Most coaches/front offices that run a tight ship will say "screw draft position where playing the best player" or "if your not performance is not satisfactory where bringing in other people for looks"

Bingo. In a truly open competition, no way Connor Williams wins that starting job.
 

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Personally, I think what happens is that Williams might get called out by announcers who don't really know what they are seeing or are using Williams as the talking point because he is convenient. Williams is not perfect, he still has real issues defending against powerful DTs and he is not going to move anybody who is strong at the point of attack out of the way but his technique is improving, almost game to game, and he is an extremely smart player. You put him in motion and he is getting better and better at his craft.

JMO

Uh..........as a guard this is about 90% of your job, that's like saying a wr can't catch but he'll block the heck out of you.
 
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