2 Weapons for offense

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Beginning of the offseason, I thought the Cowboys needed to upgrade their passing offense with at least two more, legitimate weapons. Thought OBJ and an either another receiver or TE within the top 3 rounds. It's looking like that is their plan. We already traded for Cooks who I actually believe is a better fit then OBJ and now they are targeting all the top receiving prospects:

-Q. Johnson TCU
-Zay Flowers BC
-Hyatt Tenn
-Downs UNC
-Mims Okla
-Dell Houston
-Mingo Ole Miss

It certainly looks like MM wants to run a 4 WR offense and has thrown out those Cowboys prototypes.
 

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As long as it doesn't interfere with the cornerback we absolutely have to draft early because things could happen in 2024.
 

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Beginning of the offseason, I thought the Cowboys needed to upgrade their passing offense with at least two more, legitimate weapons. Thought OBJ and an either another receiver or TE within the top 3 rounds. It's looking like that is their plan. We already traded for Cooks who I actually believe is a better fit then OBJ and now they are targeting all the top receiving prospects:

-Q. Johnson TCU
-Zay Flowers BC
-Hyatt Tenn
-Downs UNC
-Mims Okla
-Dell Houston
-Mingo Ole Miss

It certainly looks like MM wants to run a 4 WR offense and has thrown out those Cowboys prototypes.
It appears they are bringing in receivers that can be drafted in every round. Most insiders say the Cowboys don’t like the receivers at the top of the draft. Maybe for once the Cowboys are being transparent. I for one think the Cowboys are just covering there bases at Wide Receiver. You never know who might fall to you.
 

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It appears they are bringing in receivers that can be drafted in every round. Most insiders say the Cowboys don’t like the receivers at the top of the draft. Maybe for once the Cowboys are being transparent. I for one think the Cowboys are just covering there bases at Wide Receiver. You never know who might fall to you.
Most of those names are top of the draft guys. With so many numbers. it tells me it is a draft priority this yr. Also, with that Steele suggestion as a backup, might mean they will be implementing many empty sets, with multiple receivers, where pass protection is needed.
 

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Beginning of the offseason, I thought the Cowboys needed to upgrade their passing offense with at least two more, legitimate weapons. Thought OBJ and an either another receiver or TE within the top 3 rounds. It's looking like that is their plan. We already traded for Cooks who I actually believe is a better fit then OBJ and now they are targeting all the top receiving prospects:

-Q. Johnson TCU
-Zay Flowers BC
-Hyatt Tenn
-Downs UNC
-Mims Okla
-Dell Houston
-Mingo Ole Miss

It certainly looks like MM wants to run a 4 WR offense and has thrown out those Cowboys prototypes.
Big fan of a lot of these guys to come in and help.

I’m growing a little cold on Johnston though.
 

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A weapon doesn't have to be a WR. They need a weapon at RB to go with Pollard. Cowboys need another Playmaker not dependent on QB1 to get touches.

At least, their looking at WRs with speed.
They are looking at all types of receivers for the 1st time in years. Really starting to believe we are going to see more of a spread offense with empty sets.
 

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Figure out a way to land both of these two using first two picks and a small bit of additional capital and we in business
 

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Big fan of a lot of these guys to come in and help.

I’m growing a little cold on Johnston though.
Agree, not a fan of Johnson. We both said a while ago, this is how we would address the passing offense. It appears that looks like their plan.
 

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Beginning of the offseason, I thought the Cowboys needed to upgrade their passing offense with at least two more, legitimate weapons. Thought OBJ and an either another receiver or TE within the top 3 rounds. It's looking like that is their plan. We already traded for Cooks who I actually believe is a better fit then OBJ and now they are targeting all the top receiving prospects:

-Q. Johnson TCU
-Zay Flowers BC
-Hyatt Tenn
-Downs UNC
-Mims Okla
-Dell Houston
-Mingo Ole Miss

It certainly looks like MM wants to run a 4 WR offense and has thrown out those Cowboys prototypes.
Out of those guys, there are a few where I have taken specific notice.

Give me Quentin Johnston. The guy reminds me a bit of D Hop. Big time above the rim player who can rip down the ball in the red zone. at 6' 4" he is a huge target. People have some reservations about him since the production is good, but not necessarily in line with the freak physical talents along with playing in the wide open Big12. These concerns are fair, but I'm picking the potential. Lamb-Cooks-Johnston would be a combination of receivers that all bring something different to the table and could combine to be a deadly unit. He will likely be gone when Dallas is picking, but if he falls into the 20s maybe Dallas looks here.

Mims is another interesting prospect to me. He is a burner, having clocked a 4.38 at the combine but his play speed in pads makes him look more like a sub-4.3 guy. He is a small receiver, but has shown the ability to play inside or out. His hands are reliable. He can take the top off the defense and really challenge corners with his speed. He is not a technician in his route running due to the fact he could just outrun everyone in college but when you are as twitchy and fast as he is, separation can be made. His sluggo route is about is good as it comes. To me, he projects as Brandin Cooks, having a very similar skillset and athletic profile. I would be less likely to pick him due to this fact since Cooks and Mims bring similar skillsets to the table, but you are getting a nice player here.

Hyatt is perhaps the most intriguing out of the whole receiver group this year. He had a hyper productive 2022 with over 1200 yards and 15 TDs on 67 catches. He won the Biletnikoff and was 1st team all-american. Prior to this season though, he was essentially a no-show, logging sub-300 yard seasons in each of his first 3 years at Tennessee. Like Mims he has elite speed, running a 4.31 at the combine, but has a smaller frame at 6' 176 lbs. In 2022, he really only won just beating people straight up the field with his speed. He has not shown all that much as a route runner which could lead to a lengthy adjustment time to an NFL-style offense and route tree. He is the type of player that could be a surprise slider into the mid 3rd round if scouts are scared off by some of the lack of production early in his career and lack of polish. He could be a trade up target even though he is currently projected as a fringe 1st rounder.

If you want a bit of a potential sleeper target that could be had in round 5 or later, look at Trey Palmer out of Nebraska. Kid is a speedster with a 4.33 40 yard and put up really good numbers this year at Nebraska and broke their single-season receiving record. He is viewed as more of a slot-only guy, and I think that assessment is fair. I feel like he would be a very nice value pick in the tail end of the draft if the Cowboys opt to not go receiver early.

This receiver class is pretty deep and has some really good prospects but interestingly enough, many are smaller bodied speed guys. I've actually never seen a draft like this where most of the top receivers are 6' or smaller. I'll be interested in seeing how Dallas handles the position in the draft. They may think that by adding Cooks there is no need to add as they are expecting a big step forward from the kid from South Alabama this season (even though I think this is flawed logic).
 
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They are looking at all types of receivers for the 1st time in years. Really starting to believe we are going to see more of a spread offense with empty sets.
Are you saying, Big Mike is lying through his teeth talking about all this run game stuff? Lol
 

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Are you saying, Big Mike is lying through his teeth talking about all this run game stuff? Lol
He might be. Just look at those GB teams, understand they had a hall of fame QB, but they weren't considered run first teams at all. Listened to Mosher podcast today discussing the topic.
 

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Out of those guys, there are a few where I have taken specific notice.

Give me Quentin Johnston. The guy reminds me a bit of D Hop. Big time above the rim player who can rip down the ball in the red zone. at 6' 4" he is a huge target. Lamb-Cooks-Johnston would be a combination of receivers that all bring something different to the table and could combine to be a deadly unit. He will likely be gone when Dallas is picking, but if he falls into the 20s I would be itching to trade up.

Mims is another interesting prospect to me. He is a burner, having clocked a 4.38 at the combine but his play speed in pads makes him look more like a sub-4.3 guy. He is a small receiver, but has shown the ability to play inside or out. His hands are reliable. He can take the top off the defense and really challenge corners with his speed. He is not a technician in his route running due to the fact he could just outrun everyone in college but when you are as twitchy and fast as he is, separation can be made. His sluggo route is about is good as it comes. To me, he projects as Brandin Cooks, having a very similar skillset and athletic profile. I would be less likely to pick him due to this fact since Cooks and Mims bring similar skillsets to the table, but you are getting a nice player here.

Hyatt is the most intriguing out of the whole receiver group this year. He had a hyper productive 2022 with over 1200 yards and 15 TDs on 67 catches. He won the Biletnikoff and was 1st team all-american. Prior to this season though, he was essentially a no-show, logging sub-300 yard seasons in each of his first 3 years at Tennessee. Like Mims he has elite speed, running a 4.31 at the combine, but has a smaller frame at 6' 176 lbs. In 2022, he really only won just beating people straight up the field with his speed. He has not shown all that much as a route runner which could lead to a lengthy adjustment time to an NFL-style offense and route tree. He is the type of player that could be a surprise slider into the mid 2nd round if scouts are scared off by some of the lack of production early in his career and lack of polish. He could be a trade up target in mid to late 2nd even though he is currently projected 1st round.

If you want a bit of a potential sleeper target that could be had in round 5 or later, look at Trey Palmer out of Nebraska. Kid is a speedster with a 4.33 40 yard and put up really good numbers this year at Nebraska and broke their single-season receiving record. He is viewed as more of a slot-only guy, and I think that assessment is fair. I feel like he would be a very nice value pick in the tail end of the draft if the Cowboys opt to not go receiver early.

This receiver class is pretty deep and has some really good prospects. I'll be interested in seeing how Dallas handles the position in the draft. They may think that by adding Cooks there is no need to add as they are expecting a big step forward from the kid from South Alabama this season (even though I think this is flawed logic).
Majority of the receivers are undersized this yr, think they might be targeted more of a slot receiver, to replace all those underneath passes Shultz was getting.
 

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Majority of the receivers are undersized this yr, think they might be targeted more of a slot receiver, to replace all those underneath passes Shultz was getting.
In that case, I think Addison would probably be the best fit as he is in my opinion the best route runner in the class. He will be going right around where the Cowboys are picking so it could be a real possibility if they are wiped out at CB and OL.

Mims would work too since his hands are very reliable, but it would be a very different role compared to that which he played in college.
 

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Most of those names are top of the draft guys. With so many numbers. it tells me it is a draft priority this yr. Also, with that Steele suggestion as a backup, might mean they will be implementing many empty sets, with multiple receivers, where pass protection is needed.
Four receivers set would be interesting. The Anti Dak crowd does not think Dak can throw so they think the Cowboys will run more. I think the offense will be different. The defense appears to be about stopping the pass. Pass rush and cover.
 

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Agree, not a fan of Johnson. We both said a while ago, this is how we would address the passing offense. It appears that looks like their plan.
I think my preference would be Flowers / Addison at 26 or Downs / Mingo at 58.
 

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I think my preference would be Flowers / Addison at 26 or Downs / Mingo at 58.
I love Mingo, but 58 is too rich, more at 90. JSN is my top receiver, but Flowers/Addison are right behind him. Downs/Dell, Mims are all day 2 slot types, where the others can play both inside/outside.
 

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Four receivers set would be interesting. The Anti Dak crowd does not think Dak can throw so they think the Cowboys will run more. I think the offense will be different. The defense appears to be about stopping the pass. Pass rush and cover.
Spread offense with speed/quickness, will forces defenses to adjust and we would see light boxes to run against. Haven't seen any top TE's come in, which suggests they may be leaning more to multiple receiving sets, then 22 personnel. All these receivers appear to be mainly slot receivers, which could mean they are looking for that Cole Beasley type over the middle to replace Shultz production in the passing game.
 
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