3 underrated moves the Cowboys made during the 2023 offseason

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I think it's a bit of "wait and see" regarding Moore. Say what you will, but the offense put up points the last two years. One can argue that it didn't do us much good in the end, but if the offense regresses, all eye will be on MM. If the offense doesn't take a step back and the end result in the playoffs is still the same, some of those eyes will be staring right at Dak.
 
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Signing Stephen Gilmore, resigning Wilson, cutting Zeke….

We don’t even know if Mazi can play yet so how can we say it’s an underrated move?
We also don’t know if the offense will be better without Kellen.
 
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StarOfGlory said:
I think it's a bit of "wait and see" regarding Moore. Say what you will, but the offense put up points the last two years. One can argue that it didn't do us much good in the end, but if the offense regresses, all eye will be on MM. If the offense doesn't take a step back and the end result in the playoffs is still the same, some of those eyes will be staring right at Dak.
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Agreed. This is always the easy, mindless football blowhard talking point.

Coordinators don't call what they want to call. They call what they CAN call. Limitations are real. You call what you believe can work with what you have.

He'll be "a whole new guy" with the Chargers. Different abilities and limitations there.
 
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Keeping Wilson was huge! That guy is what the defense is about with Quinn.

Gilmore was a really good move. Will help Diggs tremendously to not have to take the top receiver always.

Vander Esch made sense, and I'm glad for him to squeeze more out of his career.

Really wanted another linebacker though. I was hoping for Wagner, but he may be cooked.
 
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I suppose I have a different understanding as to what “underrated” means bc obtaining Cooks and Gilmore wouldn’t be under that term in my book, neither would Kellen Moore’s departure.

I believe most fans are stoked to have Cook and Gilmore on the team. Likewise, a lot of fans wanted Moore gone despite the offensive statistics. Mazi is a 1st Rd pick.. I don’t see anything “underrated” about that.. so I’m confused by that assertion.

That said, if I had to pick three things Dal did that may be undervalued, under estimated, or…. Underrated, it would be the following imo

1) Retaining Dan Quinn. This imo, is the most significant move. To be able to continue our defensive success and philosophy is huge, exp with the unknowns offensively like new play caller, new personnel, and Dak not having KM for the first time. We HAD to have stability and cohesion on defense. And Im confident DQ will provide.

2) Resigning Wilson & LVE. I agree with this. We all know they played well last year, and their absences would have left question marks on defense. Their returns ensure we’re able to build and not repair an already potent defense. And if the Offense is going to be in question, we have to have one side of the ball to depend on. They absolutely contribute to this.

3) Signing of Ronald Jones. I know some aren’t impressed, but I believe he’ll have a bigger impact than speculated. He’s only 25yo, and not worn down yet. He may not be the fastest RB, but we have Pollard, Davis, & Deuce for that. We have to have the guy willing to pick up the dirty yards and still be productive..he can do that. Not to mention, his receiving skills are extremely “underrated”. This creates many options to deploy him. With his NFL experience and hopefully an improved OL.. I believe he will impress some folks.

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Knotamus said:
I suppose I have a different understanding as to what “underrated” means bc obtaining Cooks and Gilmore wouldn’t be under that term in my book, neither would Kellen Moore’s departure.

I believe most fans are stoked to have Cook and Gilmore on the team. Likewise, a lot of fans wanted Moore gone despite the offensive statistics. Mazi is a 1st Rd pick.. I don’t see anything “underrated” about that.. so I’m confused by that assertion.

That said, if I had to pick three things Dal did that may be undervalued, under estimated, or…. Underrated, it would be the following imo

1) Retaining Dan Quinn. This imo, is the most significant move. To be able to continue our defensive success and philosophy is huge, exp with the unknowns offensively like new play calls, new personnel, and Dak not have KM for the first time. We HAD to have stability and cohesion on defense. And Im confident DQ will provide.

2) Resigning Wilson & LVE. I agree with this. We all know the played well last year, and their absences would have left question marks on defense. Their returns ensure we’re able to build and not repair an already potent defense. And if the Offense is going to be in question, we have to have one side of the ball to depend on. They absolutely contribute to this.

3) Signing of Ronald Jones. I know some aren’t impressed, but I believe he’ll have a bigger impact than speculated. He’s only 25yo, and not worn down yet. He may not be the fastest RB, but we have Pollard, Davis, & Deuce for that. We have to have the guy willing to pick up the dirty yards and still be productive..he can do that. Not mention, his receiving skills are extremely “underrated”. This creates many options to deploy him. With his NFL experience and hopefully an improved OL.. I believe he will impress some folks.

Thanks for reading.
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they thought Mazi is a reach and might be another taco , we heard reaction like that post draft, so it is underrated and TBD..I hope RJ is nice addition.
 
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StarOfGlory said:
I think it's a bit of "wait and see" regarding Moore. Say what you will, but the offense put up points the last two years. One can argue that it didn't do us much good in the end, but if the offense regresses, all eye will be on MM. If the offense doesn't take a step back and the end result in the playoffs is still the same, some of those eyes will be staring right at Dak.
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First off Prescott's part of the offense so the offense doesn't take a step back then he's part of that success just like he was with more been part of a lot of #1 offenses how is that a diss on Prescott you tried but you failed

secondly not one of the playoff losses have been the same except for the fact that they were losses you go back to 16/2018 that was the defense, 2021 that 49er game the offensive line had 11 penalties the defense had three we had 14 penalties we had no run game at the beginning of the game that defense was getting ran over at first in in 2022 yeah Prescott probably played his worst playoff game but there was a reason again no run game the offensive line was just out maxed against that 49ers defense that's a fact none of these games ended the same way except they were a loss he was not alone in mistakes or plays missed in that game we're talking about Michael Gallup not finishing his route because he got pushed off his route the ball got thrown to a spot he never tried to get back to Oh yeah that interception sure not on Gallup at all it's just all on Prescott how about the other mistakes made by Dalton Schultz 2 mental mistakes on that last long drive and again where was the run game 16 run plays was called and they were averaging 3 yards per carry they weren't doing anything before Pollard went out but yes Pollard going down and elite Davis not being used at all that's an issue that's coaching.
And I know the defense played great for the most part but you can't dismiss the fact they could have made more plays if they wanna signature moment to gain a historical name for your defense you don't miss the plays that Trayvon diggs did then opportunity to change some of what the story of that game was

so like I said let's get off the love it the results are the same it's must be Prescott Oh no not one of these results have been the same in the last three losses I watched them all just like everyone else did it was not Prescott by himself playing poorly and he only had one real bad playoff game and it was last year but again there were reasons this is a team game you win and lose as a team and the team did not come together they got beat by the better team the better coaching better players on the other side it's a fact
 
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I'm so thankful they got rid of Kellen Moore. I hated having the 2nd most productive offense in the league during his time here.
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RIght.

If McCarthy was so much better, he's going to have to prove it. Social media culture and whiney fans ran him out. Someone had to be the scape goat.
 
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1. Cooks and Gillmore. Maybe not on this board, but not getting much attention from media because they’re not flashy moves. Solid and affordable veterans who know what it takes, and I believe still have at least one more good year in them and were only devalued because of recent years on some horrible teams.

2. Mazi. Even for a first rounder. Cowboys had to change their entire defense last year, try and trade, anything to make up for the DT failures and inability to stop the run for a long period. We’ve seen so many teams get that monster stud in the middle and take off. Really hoping this is the guy. Biggest fear I have is he seems too laid back, not enough nasty. But if it works out, and rest of the key returnees stay healthy, this is an even scarier defense.

3. Kellen Moore. Because most seem to think it was a bad move. If it fails it’s because Big Mac can’t handle the double duty, not because Kellen isn’t there. I have no coaching experience to back it up, it’s fan talk… but just never felt like Kellen understood the entire offensive momentum. A great offensive coordinator would have gotten Pollard involved more and in passing game a long time ago. None of the offensive line shifting and rotations that killed us in some years. None of the stupid cute plays on short yards. Chalk it up to him also now having to Coach his buddies, and never giving off that same leadership vibe like the other young gurus such as Sean McVay or Zac Taylor. He was a coach-in-training with Big Mac.
 
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There’s a lot to like about Wilson, and I didn’t expect to be able to keep him.
 
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Risen Star said:
I'm so thankful they got rid of Kellen Moore. I hated having the 2nd most productive offense in the league during his time here.
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I know, just imagine, teams, not knowing what we’re going to do. We should definitely be the most productive now.
 

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