A roster question worth asking before draft about building our future

[kskboys]

Five years is an eternity in the NFL, and I hate projecting any player out that far. Even when teams sign core players to mega-deals, it's rare that they guarantee more than three years.

The way I see it, we've got at least two years out in the wilderness, just to stockpile enough talent to compete. Then if that fails, we launch another rebuild Cleveland Browns style. Anyway, I think our timelines need to be looked at much more shortly than five years.

Fair enough.

 

[kskboys]

I would have already released him. Sounds “cold” but this front office needs a heavy dose of cold hearted roster evaluation.

We would be hard pressed to find a FO winning SBs these days who uses “we like our guys” as a guiding principle.

We need a huge dose of “No one on this roster is untouchable.”

Beyond any doubt.

Look at it this way. Players beg to be paid as business acquisitions. OK, then what's wrong w/ treating them that way?

 

[CowboyFanInLexKy]

Here’s my problem with using the “Three 12 win season” argument…

Let me use a war analogy: The three 12 win season argument that this validates us from 2021-23 is like saying “we won 12 battles” but we actually lost “the war” in each season with the playoffs being the war.

The regular season is only as good as the playoff results you get with them. And I don’t mean you have to win a SB every year. Just make those regular season wins at least get you a divisional playoff win more than once every 29 years.

I couldn't have said this better myself By no means do I expect us to win a SB every year but to at least make an appearance in the SB every now and then would be nice. A SB win would take care of itself if this happened....

 

[kskboys]

Here’s my problem with using the “Three 12 win season” argument…

Let me use a war analogy: The three 12 win season argument that this validates us from 2021-23 is like saying “we won 12 battles” but we actually lost “the war” in each season with the playoffs being the war.

The regular season is only as good as the playoff results you get with them. And I don’t mean you have to win a SB every year. Just make those regular season wins at least get you a divisional playoff win more than once every 29 years.

Those 12 win teams were not super bowl contenders. Super bowl contenders absolutely cannot afford to get run over in the run game. Until we're smart enough to stop that, we're not going anywhere in the playoffs.

 

[john van brocklin]

And their in lies the problem with this FO. They are always reactive instead of proactive with roster building.

They had to know the run game last season would be an issue so now the talk this season centers around drafting/acquiring RB’s and getting that going.

They’ve been doing this since Jimmy left town.

Just different position groups within different seasons.

And the kicker is there’s no end in sight.

Well, here is my theory/hope:
Jerry lucked into Romo and Dak and got above average QB play.
We were able to be relevant.
Once Dak ages out and we go to below average QB play, we will go back to the 5 and 11 Campo years.
I honestly believe the fans will quit buying merch and coming to the home games.
That will force change, especially of Jerry is gone and Stephen is in charge.
I don't think Stephen will be able to stand the heat like Jerry has.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

I would put Overshown on my list even with his injuries. He is the one guy on this team who plays like I want every guy on the team to play - 100 miles per hour. He hustles, hits, makes plays even if he misses a few.

The fact that you have a kicker in the top 4 say a lot about the state of this roster. The fact that the $60 million QB is not on the list is also a statement.

It is also surprising that Odighizuwa is not on the list. They just re-signed him for $20 million per year. I don't disagree with you omitting him from the list but it makes me wonder about the Cowboys re-signing him for that much money.

I would definitely build the defense around Parsons, but good defenses are 11 guys playing as a unit, not 1 superstar who has to do everything. If the Cowboys don't get Parsons some help on the DL they are just wasting him.

Can't put Overshown on the list, sorry. It's not just that he's injured, he's on his second knee injury, and a very severe one this past season. Just too much chance he'll be another Sean Lee, great when he's in there, just can't stay on the field enough to be a "building block".

But hey! Reasonable minds can disagree....

 

[plasticman]

Right now there are only three players that I would consider foundational and that would be Tyler Smith, CeeDee Lamb and Micah Parsons.

Hopefully, there will be more players to add after this season. Some 2nd and 3rd year players have potential for a breakout season. If the Cowboys do select at pick #12, then that player definitely should have the potential to be added to "the Five".

Any of these players have the potential to state their case in 2025.

Tyler Guyton
Marshawn Kneeland
Cooper Beebe
Marist Liufau
Sam Williams
Mazi Smith
Luke Schoonmaker
DaRon Bland

 

[ArtClink]

Great list. I would take off Overshown. He’s a great player and def an impact player but I’ve seen enough to say he seems to be made of glass. That’s a shame because he never takes plays off and I love players like that.

IMO, we are really weak on the D-Line. I read recently what Minnesota did to fix their D-Line but it required spending decent money in FA, something the Jones boys don’t believe in.

 

[ArtClink]

And their in lies the problem with this FO. They are always reactive instead of proactive with roster building.

They had to know the run game last season would be an issue so now the talk this season centers around drafting/acquiring RB’s and getting that going.

They’ve been doing this since Jimmy left town.

Just different position groups within different seasons.

And the kicker is there’s no end in sight.

Agreed and this FO drafts flashy players who will increase jersey sales rather than team building.

 

[ArtClink]

I would have already released him. Sounds “cold” but this front office needs a heavy dose of cold hearted roster evaluation.

We would be hard pressed to find a FO winning SBs these days who uses “we like our guys” as a guiding principle.

We need a huge dose of “No one on this roster is untouchable.”

This!