Amazing Solution to the Oil Spill Disaster

[Hostile]

Pardon me, but if our EPA and others do not realize how genius this is then they are friggin' morons.

These guys are geniuses.

http://wimp.com/solutionoil/

 

[trickblue]

I don't even have to watch that to confirm they are friggin morons...

It's all about power...

 

[hairic]

The patent for that exact process has already expired; it was applied like in 1974. So it's not a new idea.

Sorry I can't provide a link. Read about this yesterday, but am not on the same computer.

 

[peplaw06]

Save the environment. Buy Bamooda grass.

 

[JustDezIt]

seemes like a damn good idea to me

 

[Cajuncowboy]

I like the idea in theory but the problem becomes a bit tougher when you get it into practice outside of a controlled environment. This was something that has been looked at some years ago but putting into a real life situation was somewhat impractical.

The environment is not as stable as what was shown in the controlled setting and there are many more variables when you get out in the Gulf.

 

[Signals]

I like the idea in theory but the problem becomes a bit tougher when you get it into practice outside of a controlled environment. This was something that has been looked at some years ago but putting into a real life situation was somewhat impractical.

The environment is not as stable as what was shown in the controlled setting and there are many more variables when you get out in the Gulf.

Like what? Seriously. Not trying to be a smart ***, just curious. Why wouldn't it have value?

 

[vta]

Like what? Seriously. Not trying to be a smart ***, just curious. Why wouldn't it have value?

Probably the difference between a body of still, contained water and a body of constantly churning, unrestrained water.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Like what? Seriously. Not trying to be a smart ***, just curious. Why wouldn't it have value?

In the video they had a controlled environment. In the Gulf you have weather variables. Wave and current variables. You have animal life.

They had a few pans filled with water, a quart of burned oil and a handful of hay.

Like I said, it is good in theory but in practice it's a whole different ball game.

This is not something that they just thought of by the way, the idea has been around a while. It's just impractical to put into action.

 

[dback]

Like what? Seriously. Not trying to be a smart ***, just curious. Why wouldn't it have value?

Just thinking out loud, I have no clue about any of the numbers or if these are really a factor. A few things that are different in the Gulf:

1. The salinity of the water could affect absorption of oil into the dry grass. Maybe not, but this is different than the lab setting. I mean salty water may be more favored to absorb before the oil can get in.

2. Some of the oil that has been floating on the gulf has probably emulsified a little bit resulting in many small oil bubbles huddled together. The sponge effect of some liquid into a porous solid is kind of a surface tension problem, of which small oil bubbles will have a lot.

3. In the turbulent waters of the gulf, it is possible the hay may disperse apart faster than it can absorb oil. The oil doesn't really disperse as much.

4. Even if the hay does absorb the oil, the longer the hay stays in the water, it could become waterlogged and start to re-release the oil back into the water. The sun could degrade the hay also rendering it ineffective.

5. There is a lot of oil out there right now, even one straw of hay could absorb it's volume in oil and could be removed from the ocean, we would still need to get an equal volume of hay straws out into the ocean.

Once again, I don't know if any specifics of these, I am just throwing out the first things that come to mind.

 

[Hostile]

This would work. I have used hay to soak up oil many times on the ranch. Start with small patches and scoop it up. The more you get down, the more it will pull out. Waves, etc. will not matter. Hay will not sink and it will pull the oil out of the water. It would be time consuming and drudgery, but little by little it will pull that crap out of the water.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

This would work. I have used hay to soak up oil many times on the ranch. Start with small patches and scoop it up. The more you get down, the more it will pull out. Waves, etc. will not matter. Hay will not sink and it will pull the oil out of the water. It would be time consuming and drudgery, but little by little it will pull that crap out of the water.

How much waves and Gulf current do you have on that ranch?

The problem would be that the current would in all likelihood move the hay faster than the oil as it comes to the surface. It's just a completely different environment.

Would it absorb some oil? Sure. Would it make a difference? Maybe. Is it a proven solution? No. But obviously they thought the dome would work but it has its problems as well.

 

[Hostile]

How much waves and Gulf current do you have on that ranch?

The problem would be that the current would in all likelihood move the hay faster than the oil as it comes to the surface. It's just a completely different environment.

Would it absorb some oil? Sure. Would it make a difference? Maybe. Is it a proven solution? No. But obviously they thought the dome would work but it has its problems as well.

Please don't ask me dumb questions and be a smart alec when I am not insulting you in any way.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Please don't ask me dumb questions and be a smart alec when I am not insulting you in any way.

Umm, I was being sarcastic. you should know I don't mean anything by it. It was kinda a play on an old George Straight song "Oceanfront property".

 

[Hostile]

Umm, I was being sarcastic. you should know I don't mean anything by it. It was kinda a play on an old George Straight song "Oceanfront property".

Run with it then. I won't read the thread any more. Have a blast.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Run with it then. I won't read the thread any more. Have a blast.

wow! you need some sleep hos. Can't believe you took offense to that.

sorry.

thought your skin was thicker than that.

 

[SaltwaterServr]

The Gulf of Mexico isn't a bowl. There are currents, cross currents, and various layers within the water column based on primarily on temperature and salinity. The oil is pushing up through these strata from the bottom of the Gulf, or from whatever depth the well has fractured the casing.

Then you have the surface wave action which may churn the top few meters or the top tens of meters.

The hay idea might be a best quick fix emergency on the shore line or at the surface of a non-ocillating fixed body of water where no other solutions are available. However, it's a novel idea with limited practical application.

Having had to personally clean up a diesel and oil spill in a harbor, a few tons of hay isn't what the situation calls for. Hay can sink or become only marginally buoyant when soaked with oil. Add in wave action, and you've got hundreds of millions of strands of tar and oil soaked strands of decaying vegetative matter. In the currents of the Gulf, the hay has more of a chance to become totally water logged and sink or decay before it can be collected.

Commercial absorbent oil booms don't sink. They don't disintegrate. They absorb many times their weight in oil and concurrently have massive amounts of surface area for adsorption as well. Enzyme dispersants are, to the best of my knowledge, produced in capsule forms to sink to set depths based on water density. They can be sprayed on the surface as well.

The hay idea is a novel one, but even in terrestrial settings it won't really get the job done to EPA specs.

 

[rkell87]

i say just use a sham wow lol

 

[SaltwaterServr]

i say just use a sham wow lol

Sham Wow guy's hair probably could absorb 2 barrels a day just by itself. I wouldn't be to put out if we held his head underwater for a few days to see how much it could absorb, and if he could develop gills in the process.

Then again, his hair might contribute more to the spill than it picked up.

 

[rkell87]

Sham Wow guy's hair probably could absorb 2 barrels a day just by itself. I wouldn't be to put out if we held his head underwater for a few days to see how much it could absorb, and if he could develop gills in the process.

Then again, his hair might contribute more to the spill than it picked up.

lol