Android vs iPad - The Debate

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Since theebs' thread was being overtaken by the never ending iPad-vs-Android debate, I figured it would be better to start a new thread for this topic so his thread could get back on topic (hopefully) ..

Here are my thoughts to get this debate started ..

I have owned an iPad 3G 64gb since they first came out and I absolutely love it. In fact, it is very rare I take either of my laptops with me unless I plan to stay over night somewhere and usually then only if it is two or more nights.

I am also fond of open OS's such as linux and of course Android. I think Android's future is extremely bright and I look forward to seeing it become the 21st century's version of Windows minus the corporate meddling and oversight.

That being said, I would rather have an iPad than an android tablet. The main reason? Simplicity. Not simplicity in use but simplicity in the overall package. I like knowing that if I see an app in the iTunes App Store that it will run on my iPad. When the new iPad 2's come out soon, I am sure there will be some features such as camera support, etc. that are not retroactively supported but even then, there will be only one other device I have to be concerned with.

With Android phones, you have different manufacturers and different carriers using different systems. For example, some phones I have owned required different OS updates depending on which carrier I was using because some are for GSM-based phones while others for CDMA-based phones.

It's the same with laptops. I own two gaming laptops but I cannot use graphics drivers from the graphics company, I have to wait for the laptop manufacturers to release their modified and approved drivers. In other words, there is now yet another delay added and/or failure point should that company ever go under or stop supporting the models of laptops I own. The same goes for cellphones and tablets as well.

While some consider the limited iPhone and iPad options as a negative, I see it as a huge positive for both compatibility and reduced irritation due to conflicts and lack of support for certain devices, carriers and/or custom hardware features.

I also like that there is only one App store and every app in it goes through more than a token approval process. I also like knowing that if one app scams or screws me, there is one company I have to contact.

I am not an Apple fan boy by any means but I do appreciate what Apple provides with their computers, iphones, ipods and ipads. I fully expect android-based devices to relegate Apple devices to a smaller percentage of the market over the next year or two, but there will always be a place and market for Apple products no matter how well android powered or other types of devices do.

The bottom line is what do you want from the device.

Do you want a device with a lot of power, more features, more options and more apps that is more open to letting you use the device the way you want to use it at the expense of no real point of contact, a saturated app market, numerous app stores and compatibility issues between OS releases and devices? If so, Android is perfect for you.

Do you want a device that is easy to use and update, has a clean and organized app store and one point of contact for everything at the expense of limited power and configuration options, large yet limited/censored app store and limited carrier options? If so, Apple/iPad is perfect for you.

In other words, neither one is better than the other on the whole .. it depends what you want from the device.

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I've said countless times that Android's fragmented OS will be the death of them.

I appreciate how open it is but they should have mandated in the license that every company that adopts Android must pump out the latest version to all their devices within a month of its release.

There is absolutely no reason a device made in 2011 should be using a version of their OS from 2009.
 

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TheCount;3829246 said:
I've said countless times that Android's fragmented OS will be the death of them.

I appreciate how open it is but they should have mandated in the license that every company that adopts Android must pump out the latest version to all their devices within a month of its release.

There is absolutely no reason a device made in 2011 should be using a version of their OS from 2009.

Apparently, the 33 million people who bought Android phones in the 4th quarter of 2010 disagree.

btw, there are a few guys with iPhone G3s here with iOS4 on them. They are absolutely pissed off that they have iOS4 on their phone. They said it completely ruined a perfectly good G3 phone. They said it's slow, buggy and several apps don't work properly on it. :muttley:
 

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Thats me dropping a turd on it. ;)

:laugh2:

Don't let me get hold of a picture of you, I'll have you and Steve Jobs dancing a tango. ;)
 

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Back on topic.

I don't think anyone would consider me a fan boy.

I prefer PC over apple computers.

However I am happy with my Iphone.

I rarely text, I think since I have had it I have only called someone twice.

I like it for the apps and the games.

The display is good, the games are cheap, sometimes free and I can look at the zone while watching tv instead of going into the computer room.

All in All I am happy with it.

The reason I got it was because the wife already had one on a plan and she got a deal on mine plus it was really cheap to add me to her plan.

I probably would have been just as happy with an EVO if she was on a different plan and so on.

I have had no problems with my iphone and like I said I am happy for it.

Does not mean I am a fan boy of apple but I am happy with the product for what I use it for.
 

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The debate seems to revolve around sales, based on bias. Neither are garbage and both can give you what you need. Phone, web, movies, GPS, games, whatever. The fight is what keeps people loyal to a brand and pretty much guarantees their money.

I don't have either, nor an iPad. I would (and might) get an iPhone now that it's on Verizon, but haven't found myself lost without such a thing just yet. Because I own an Apple computer, I know what I'm getting if something goes wrong: support from Apple and no excuses. Does it make it a better device? I don't know. I wouldn't even care, as long as it does what it does right.
 

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I have several apple products and I am a fan. That is not to say I will always buy their products in the future though. I also have some concerns of the future vision when Jobs leaves for good. There are not many Steve Jobs and his loss will leave a huge void IMO.

All I know is I had several MP3 players before the first Ipod was released. It was a mess trying to load songs and the user interface's sucked. The Ipod came out and it made the user experience easy and neat. My parents could easily load songs and create songlists. Now I have the Ipod touch where I listen/watch podcasts, keep track of calories, keep track of my investments, do mobile banking, play games, surf the web, etc. They sure didn't create the first music player but the changed the market segment forever.

I have never had an iphone but my wife does. I worked for Motorola for about 8 years. I saw our first experience partnering with Apple having the first phone with Itunes. It was a disaster. Terrible phone. I then saw Apple completely change the mobile phone with the iphone. Now there are many competitiors in this spot now. I like Google very much as well but have never had an android phone. But Apple changed the direction of the cell phone market with their phone and i plan to upgrade my wife to Iphone 4 for her birthday. Apple obviously didn't invent cell phones but I look back at the UI of the Razor and phones from just a few years ago and it is amazing the growth that Apple put in motion.

I also have a Ipad 3g. I don't think we know where this segment will go in the future but I find it can do much more than I was expecting. My parents have one as well and they got it working within minutes and have no problem using it. I can't explain how cool it is to plop on the couch, swipe the ipad and get surfing right away. I think it is a really cool device. I am surprised Moto product looks so good. They have lost a lot of talent, but I expect the tablet market to be filled with some very solid competitors sooner than later. Although a little over a year ago this market did not exist until Apple solved the puzzle (at least to create the initial market)

This is not to say Apple will remain one of the most important consumer companies in the world. Things change. I have just had a lot of enjoyable experiences using their products and all things being equal I tend to stick with Apple (it is one of the things I don't mind paying a premium for either)
 

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chicago JK;3829323 said:
I have several apple products and I am a fan. That is not to say I will always buy their products in the future though. I also have some concerns of the future vision when Jobs leaves for good. There are not many Steve Jobs and his loss will leave a huge void IMO.

All I know is I had several MP3 players before the first Ipod was released. It was a mess trying to load songs and the user interface's sucked. The Ipod came out and it made the user experience easy and neat. My parents could easily load songs and create songlists. Now I have the Ipod touch where I listen/watch podcasts, keep track of calories, keep track of my investments, do mobile banking, play games, surf the web, etc. They sure didn't create the first music player but the changed the market segment forever.

I have never had an iphone but my wife does. I worked for Motorola for about 8 years. I saw our first experience partnering with Apple having the first phone with Itunes. It was a disaster. Terrible phone. I then saw Apple completely change the mobile phone with the iphone. Now there are many competitiors in this spot now. I like Google very much as well but have never had an android phone. But Apple changed the direction of the cell phone market with their phone and i plan to upgrade my wife to Iphone 4 for her birthday. Apple obviously didn't invent cell phones but I look back at the UI of the Razor and phones from just a few years ago and it is amazing the growth that Apple put in motion.

I also have a Ipad 3g. I don't think we know where this segment will go in the future but I find it can do much more than I was expecting. My parents have one as well and they got it working within minutes and have no problem using it. I can't explain how cool it is to plop on the couch, swipe the ipad and get surfing right away. I think it is a really cool device. I am surprised Moto product looks so good. They have lost a lot of talent, but I expect the tablet market to be filled with some very solid competitors sooner than later. Although a little over a year ago this market did not exist until Apple solved the puzzle (at least to create the initial market)

This is not to say Apple will remain one of the most important consumer companies in the world. Things change. I have just had a lot of enjoyable experiences using their products and all things being equal I tend to stick with Apple (it is one of the things I don't mind paying a premium for either)

This is a great post.

Most people think I'm anti-Apple, but I'm not. I even like some of their products (to a point, that point being the clamps that Jobs puts on their products)

I am anti-Steve Jobs. I refuse to own any Apple products while he is at the helm. I will probably wait until he is dead and rotting in the ground before I ever do such a thing IF I ever do. I say IF, because I'm not sure how much longer Apple will be able to complete with Android at the rate it is progressing.
 

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The good thing about Ios vs Android, the apple vs everyone else thing in the market...it creates good competition and in turn makes the products develop faster and better in most cases.

So even if you don't like one product, or one person in charge of one product, it is for the best that they are out there as it makes for better choices for the consumer in the market.

One thing I will say is whether you like steve or not, I don't really care for him as an individual, is that he makes Apple work. If he leaves again they might not do as well. And personally the better apple does, the better it is for all of us even if you don't like apple.

Just something to think about.
 

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nyc;3829332 said:
This is a great post.

Most people think I'm anti-Apple, but I'm not. I even like some of their products (to a point, that point being the clamps that Jobs puts on their products)

I am anti-Steve Jobs. I refuse to own any Apple products while he is at the helm. I will probably wait until he is dead and rotting in the ground before I ever do such a thing IF I ever do. I say IF, because I'm not sure how much longer Apple will be able to complete with Android at the rate it is progressing.

It's just a matter of time before Jobs leaves Apple. They are already planning for that end as I type this because of his most recent health hiatus from the company.

We all know what happened to Apple the last time the prince left the kingdom. AMIRITE?

Maybe they can clone Jobs and button down the hatches for the consumer even FURTHER?

Nahhhhh......can't be tighter than it already is.
 

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nyc;3829332 said:
This is a great post.

Most people think I'm anti-Apple, but I'm not. I even like some of their products (to a point, that point being the clamps that Jobs puts on their products)

I am anti-Steve Jobs. I refuse to own any Apple products while he is at the helm. I will probably wait until he is dead and rotting in the ground before I ever do such a thing IF I ever do. I say IF, because I'm not sure how much longer Apple will be able to complete with Android at the rate it is progressing.
You're deluding yourself. You treat faceless corporations like they're football teams. You feel the same way towards Apple that you do towards, say, the Eagles.

It's ridiculous and completely irrational -- to the point where you'll say the dumbest things just to keep up your perceived "rivalry." It's a corporation, not a football team.

I don't care what the label is on a product -- if it works great, I'm buying it, be it Microsoft, Google, Apple, whoever.
 

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theogt;3829368 said:
You're deluding yourself. You treat faceless corporations like they're football teams. You feel the same way towards Apple that you do towards, say, the Eagles.

It's ridiculous and completely irrational -- the point where you'll say the dumbest things just to keep up your perceived "rivalry." It's a corporation, not a football team.

Wow, I just said (in that very post!) I don't hate Apple, that I only really hate Steve Jobs. What part of that did you miss? You've got issues buddy. Your Apple iLove is becoming a serious problem as it concerns your reading comprehension. :lmao2:
 

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Noting wrong with Ipad's. They're just not going to replace my laptop and I can't afford $500 for nothing more than a toy.
 

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Anjinsan;3829392 said:
Noting wrong with Ipad's. They're just not going to replace my laptop and I can't afford $500 for nothing more than a toy.


Im with you. I carry my phone w/ me because it does pretty much w/e I need it to do. I however still continue to carry my slimline laptop because it does everything I need it to do and it's the size of the iPad and 10x the power.

The iPad is a great product, don't get me wrong. I understand the cuteness and ease of use of the device, but as a professional I cannot nor will not limit myself by the devices I carry. Everything I carry w/ me can do my job either 95% or 100% of the time depending on what I need.
 
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