Blake Horvath

[RustyBourneHorse]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/5081504/blake-horvath

I posted a thread a moment ago about Daily, the QB from Army. It's only fair, especially since we had Staubach and since Navy is doing well too, that I mention Blake Horvath as an option at QB too. Here are some highlights:



This is from his game against Memphis. Not exactly a top opponent, but he's got potential too. Much like my argument for getting Daily, he'd be a person who can, if nothing else, be a player who can change the culture. Especially in the case of Horvath, we did well last time we had a Navy QB. Maybe it's time to have another Navy QB.

 

[KingintheNorth]

No.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

No.

Not even as like a 6th round option?

 

[KingintheNorth]

Not even as like a 6th round option?

So you think a 6th round pick is changing the culture?

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

So you think a 6th round pick is changing the culture?

I think the reason he or Bryson Daily would be going late is because of the fact they are obligated to do military service unless the DOD gives them a waiver. I think that it lines up perfectly for them while Dak plays out his contract. As for whether or not they can change the culture. Yes, I think it's possible. If Roger Staubach (I'm not saying either will be Roger Staubach, I'm simply using him as the most prominent example of a military school player) was coming out of the draft, do you not think he could change the locker room culture? I think it's possible.

We are needing someone who can overcome Jerry Jones. Players with ambitions to be in the NFL typically don't go to an Army or a Navy because of the military commitment. That makes the fact that Army is undefeated and Navy is 6-1 (probably will be 6-2 after their current game) that much more impressive. From what I've seen from Daily and Horvath, they have some good ball skills. Their mentality should be really good based on the fact they're military men. I think they will be able to lead, by virtue of what schools they attend. This is a rare circumstance where it lines up perfectly for them to be draftees. We don't necessarily need QB, but taking a late round flier on them is a good idea. Plus, yes, especially with the fact they will probably have to do military service either for a certain amount of time or maybe less if the DOD gives them waivers, I think them being military men might be a way to try to get a culture that's more tough minded.

 

[gtb1943]

I think the reason he or Bryson Daily would be going late is because of the fact they are obligated to do military service unless the DOD gives them a waiver. I think that it lines up perfectly for them while Dak plays out his contract. As for whether or not they can change the culture. Yes, I think it's possible. If Roger Staubach (I'm not saying either will be Roger Staubach, I'm simply using him as the most prominent example of a military school player) was coming out of the draft, do you not think he could change the locker room culture? I think it's possible.

We are needing someone who can overcome Jerry Jones. Players with ambitions to be in the NFL typically don't go to an Army or a Navy because of the military commitment. That makes the fact that Army is undefeated and Navy is 6-1 (probably will be 6-2 after their current game) that much more impressive. From what I've seen from Daily and Horvath, they have some good ball skills. Their mentality should be really good based on the fact they're military men. I think they will be able to lead, by virtue of what schools they attend. This is a rare circumstance where it lines up perfectly for them to be draftees. We don't necessarily need QB, but taking a late round flier on them is a good idea. Plus, yes, especially with the fact they will probably have to do military service either for a certain amount of time or maybe less if the DOD gives them waivers, I think them being military men might be a way to try to get a culture that's more tough minded.

I think you have the right of it about changing the culture here. Getting players who are truly disciplined. Maybe even taking them over slightly more talented ones that are not. The Army QB is not tall but very strong and is frankly a better runner and has a more talented arm. IF we were to get a coach that is actually a disciplinarian and then have say the Army QB in a couple of years, that could work out.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I think you have the right of it about changing the culture here. Getting players who are truly disciplined. Maybe even taking them over slightly more talented ones that are not. The Army QB is not tall but very strong and is frankly a better runner and has a more talented arm. IF we were to get a coach that is actually a disciplinarian and then have say the Army QB in a couple of years, that could work out.

Well, and, much like with Roger Staubach, the Army or Navy QB would be leaders by virtue of their occupation and would command respect. Do you think Zeke would have been allowed to step a toe out of line with a QB like a Staubach or probably a Horvath or Daily? I don't. Plus, as stated, their records are impressive because they're doing this with less talented players around them (because of the military commitments). If we want a QB that we can have in reserve that have the skills to take over at some point, an Army or a Navy QB (or Air Force if they're good) might be the way to go. It's a rare situation, but we are in the perfect set up for a military QB to be drafted by us.

 

[tm1119]

I think the reason he or Bryson Daily would be going late is because of the fact they are obligated to do military service unless the DOD gives them a waiver. I think that it lines up perfectly for them while Dak plays out his contract. As for whether or not they can change the culture. Yes, I think it's possible. If Roger Staubach (I'm not saying either will be Roger Staubach, I'm simply using him as the most prominent example of a military school player) was coming out of the draft, do you not think he could change the locker room culture? I think it's possible.

We are needing someone who can overcome Jerry Jones. Players with ambitions to be in the NFL typically don't go to an Army or a Navy because of the military commitment. That makes the fact that Army is undefeated and Navy is 6-1 (probably will be 6-2 after their current game) that much more impressive. From what I've seen from Daily and Horvath, they have some good ball skills. Their mentality should be really good based on the fact they're military men. I think they will be able to lead, by virtue of what schools they attend. This is a rare circumstance where it lines up perfectly for them to be draftees. We don't necessarily need QB, but taking a late round flier on them is a good idea. Plus, yes, especially with the fact they will probably have to do military service either for a certain amount of time or maybe less if the DOD gives them waivers, I think them being military men might be a way to try to get a culture that's more tough minded.

You’re completely ignoring a pretty big part of playing QB….throwing the ball.

Great story and I’m rooting for Army to go undefeated, but this kid is nowhere close to an NFL QB.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

You’re completely ignoring a pretty big part of playing QB….throwing the ball.

Great story and I’m rooting for Army to go undefeated, but this kid is nowhere close to an NFL QB.

I like what I see from both Horvath and Daily in terms of throwing the ball. If nothing else, they could make a good backup QB option. Plus, they've got these records with less than top talent players. Their arms look decent enough. I think taking either with a 6th round pick would be great value.

 

[gtb1943]

You’re completely ignoring a pretty big part of playing QB….throwing the ball.

Great story and I’m rooting for Army to go undefeated, but this kid is nowhere close to an NFL QB.

Actually there have been a number of QBs drafted who are lesser athletes than the Army QB is and he does have a strong arm. He needs work no doubt of it but that would be the great part of waiting for him. HE would have time to become a better passer.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Actually there have been a number of QBs drafted who are lesser athletes than the Army QB is and he does have a strong arm. He needs work no doubt of it but that would be the great part of waiting for him. HE would have time to become a better passer.

Well, exactly, and he'd definitely be in shape coming into camp at that time given he's in the Army (or Horvath would too given he's in the Navy).