Charlotte Bobcats Make History: Worst Team in NBA History

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Winning percentage of .106, finishing with a final record of 7-59.

Absolutely embarrassing. Michael Jordan, the greatest of all time, is now associated with the worst of all time.
 
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Why in the world were the LOLcats on national TV? :laugh2:

Anyways as you said an absolute embarrassment. I feel embarrassed as an avid NBA fan that we have a team this terrible.
 

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casmith07;4532123 said:
Winning percentage of .106, finishing with a final record of 7-59.

Absolutely embarrassing. Michael Jordan, the greatest of all time, is now associated with the worst of all time.

Jordan is responsible for drafting the likes of Sean May and Adam Morrison. This falls squarely on his shoulders. He is responsible for trading away Okafor, Shannon Brown, etc. Just piss poor management, coaching, etc. They had 16,000 there to see the game last night against the Knicks. It's not that fans won't come, it's that they don't because of the terrible product on the floor every night.

Another problem is the amount of transplants that live here and root for other teams. I will go see a few games per year to support the team against Western conference rivals, but otherwise I don't go. I would go to more games if the team was at least competitive on a regular basis.
 

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SkinsandTerps;4533085 said:
Jordan is responsible for drafting the likes of Sean May and Adam Morrison. This falls squarely on his shoulders. He is responsible for trading away Okafor, Shannon Brown, etc. Just piss poor management, coaching, etc. They had 16,000 there to see the game last night against the Knicks. It's not that fans won't come, it's that they don't because of the terrible product on the floor every night.

Another problem is the amount of transplants that live here and root for other teams. I will go see a few games per year to support the team against Western conference rivals, but otherwise I don't go. I would go to more games if the team was at least competitive on a regular basis.

16,000 is pretty good for an NBA game. The arenas aren't huge.

They were mostly there to see history/see the Knicks, though, which is problematic.
 

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There's really isn't much you can say to defend MJ, but he did have the Bobcats in the playoffs 2 or 3 years ago, I forget exactly when and instead of extending Raymond Felton, Tyson Chandler, ect, he made the unpopular and difficult decision to break the team up.

In the NBA you win with superstars and if you don't have one, you have no chance of winning a title. Go back to 1980, every NBA championship team has has either Magic, Bird, Isiah, Moses Malone, Isiah Thomas, Jordan, Hakeem, Duncan, Shaq or Kobe. All current/former MVPs all in their prime. The only exceptions are the 04' Pistons which had like 5 All starts starting for them, the 08' Celtics which had 3 great players slightly past their prime and an up and coming all star in Rondo, and the 2011 Mavs who had a great player in Dirk and no disrepect where the beneficiary of one of the greatest choke jobs in sports history.

I think Jordan can build a winner in charlotte. Kemba Walker good 6th man potential and if Bismack Biyomba can develop, he'll be one of the better defensive centers in the league. All they need is a little lottery love.
 

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SkinsandTerps;4533085 said:
Jordan is responsible for drafting the likes of Sean May and Adam Morrison.

NBA draft picks after a certain point are even more of a crap shoot than NFL draft picks. Danny Granger (17th) David Lee (30th) and Monta Ellis (40th) are really the only players taken after May (13th) that you would really want.

As far as Morrison goes, he was gonna be a high pick reguardless of MJ taking him. Almost like Kwame Brown. Had MJ taken Tyson Chandler, Pau Gasol or who ever, Kwame would've went #2 and Morrison likely would've went 4th or 5th that year.
 

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you know who should feel even worse about this than the bobcats or MJ? the 7 teams that lost to them! lol
 

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MC KAos;4535172 said:
you know who should feel even worse about this than the bobcats or MJ? the 7 teams that lost to them! lol
I believe they had a winning record against the Raptors.
 

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Manwiththeplan;4534688 said:
NBA draft picks after a certain point are even more of a crap shoot than NFL draft picks. Danny Granger (17th) David Lee (30th) and Monta Ellis (40th) are really the only players taken after May (13th) that you would really want.

As far as Morrison goes, he was gonna be a high pick reguardless of MJ taking him. Almost like Kwame Brown. Had MJ taken Tyson Chandler, Pau Gasol or who ever, Kwame would've went #2 and Morrison likely would've went 4th or 5th that year.

It was Adam Morrison or Brandon Roy.
 

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We won free tickets a few times this season and got to see them play the Knicks and Hawks. Me and my buddy stated even early in the season that it was the worst basketball team we had ever witnessed.

I honestly don't think they have a starting quality player on their roster. Their starters would make a pretty good second unit though.
 

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Manwiththeplan;4534665 said:
There's really isn't much you can say to defend MJ, but he did have the Bobcats in the playoffs 2 or 3 years ago, I forget exactly when and instead of extending Raymond Felton, Tyson Chandler, ect, he made the unpopular and difficult decision to break the team up.

In the NBA you win with superstars and if you don't have one, you have no chance of winning a title. Go back to 1980, every NBA championship team has has either Magic, Bird, Isiah, Moses Malone, Isiah Thomas, Jordan, Hakeem, Duncan, Shaq or Kobe. All current/former MVPs all in their prime. The only exceptions are the 04' Pistons which had like 5 All starts starting for them, the 08' Celtics which had 3 great players slightly past their prime and an up and coming all star in Rondo, and the 2011 Mavs who had a great player in Dirk and no disrepect where the beneficiary of one of the greatest choke jobs in sports history.

I think Jordan can build a winner in charlotte. Kemba Walker good 6th man potential and if Bismack Biyomba can develop, he'll be one of the better defensive centers in the league. All they need is a little lottery love.

It was 2009-2010, Jordan's first season in charge. That team had S-Jax and Gerald Wallace as well as Chandler. Wallace was an all-star that season.

After the season Jordan traded Chandler to the Mavs and then traded Wallace to the Trailblazers.

S-Jax mentally checked out after that and so the Bobcats traded him to Milwaukee for the seventh pick in the draft in 2011. They turned that trade into Biyombo.

Honestly, the only bad move out of that was trading Wallace imo. He was a huge fan-favorite in Charlotte and it's not like the fans have a lot to come out for. Chandler never lit it up here and really only played at an upper level when he played his one season with Nowitzki. S-Jax ends badly at every stop so they did a good thing turning him for a high pick.

Hopefully they get the number one pick this year and can put some actual NBA starting level players on the floor this season.
 

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casmith07;4535733 said:
It was Adam Morrison or Brandon Roy.

my point wasn't that there was no other option, but the next team would've taken Morrison with out hesitation.
 

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Joe Rod;4535869 said:
It was 2009-2010, Jordan's first season in charge. That team had S-Jax and Gerald Wallace as well as Chandler. Wallace was an all-star that season.

After the season Jordan traded Chandler to the Mavs and then traded Wallace to the Trailblazers.

S-Jax mentally checked out after that and so the Bobcats traded him to Milwaukee for the seventh pick in the draft in 2011. They turned that trade into Biyombo.

Honestly, the only bad move out of that was trading Wallace imo. He was a huge fan-favorite in Charlotte and it's not like the fans have a lot to come out for. Chandler never lit it up here and really only played at an upper level when he played his one season with Nowitzki. S-Jax ends badly at every stop so they did a good thing turning him for a high pick.

Hopefully they get the number one pick this year and can put some actual NBA starting level players on the floor this season.

yea, charlotte sucked this year because it makes no sense to spend money on a bad team. scap everything and start from scratch.
 

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Manwiththeplan;4537652 said:
my point wasn't that there was no other option, but the next team would've taken Morrison with out hesitation.

I'm not sure why.
 

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I don't know that ANY fan of their team was excited about Adam Morrison.

He was looked at as a great college player that would not make the transition. The fans were right. He was a product of the hype machine. Nothing more.

Rudy Gay should have been the obvious choice.
 

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SkinsandTerps;4538838 said:
I don't know that ANY fan of their team was excited about Adam Morrison.

He was looked at as a great college player that would not make the transition. The fans were right. He was a product of the hype machine. Nothing more.

Rudy Gay should have been the obvious choice.

Thank you.

I think it was Brandon Roy that should've been the selection.

Adam Morrison is hilariously bad.
 

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casmith07;4539112 said:
Thank you.

I think it was Brandon Roy that should've been the selection.

Adam Morrison is hilariously bad.

Morrison may be bad but at least he is still playing. Roy was exciting but there is not much to be done about his bad knees.
 

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Cythim;4542387 said:
Morrison may be bad but at least he is still playing. Roy was exciting but there is not much to be done about his bad knees.

He is still under contract. That might be the only reason.

Anyone with two eyes and vision could see that Morrison would not succeed at the NBA level.

It was a bad pick. May was a great player for Carolina...May was on a great team. May was never the star of that team and never looked to project as a great PF at the NBA level. Those two picks alone are bad. But then you add on trading a fan favorite and solid role player to San Antonio for nothing. It's just stupid.
 

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They traded Chandler at his lowest of low values to rid themselves of salary and took on Matt Carroll, maybe the worst contract in the NBA, in the process. That was inexcusable.
 

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I saw a stat this morning that the Bobcats lost by 20 or more 30 times this season which means the franchise should be eliminated from the NBA
 
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