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26: R1 P26 WR Quentin Johnston - TCU
58: R2 P27 LB Jack Campbell - Iowa
90: R3 P27 RB Devon Achane - Texas A&M
129: R4 P27 G Atonio Mafi - UCLA
169: R5 P34 QB Clayton Tune - Houston
212: R6 P35 RB Deuce Vaughn - Kansas State
244: R7 P27 FB Hunter Luepke - North Dakota State

They are going more WCO -- they draft the best X coming out of college, allowing CD to play the Y.
Campbell is the best MLB it seems, and has the size needed. He will be what they were getting in LVE pre neck injury.
Achane has ability and is a playmaker. Many will be surprised at how he will play in the offense.
Needed that guard so they went out and got a big one with lots of strength.
Romo waiting to happen drafted in the 5th.
another playmaker drafted in the 6th to return kicks, RB, slot, add more problems for the DC.
and the lead blocker, and pick up the blitz guy that can also run a bit picked up in the 7th.

I probably should have taken a TE in the 6th with the depth this draft has, but I believe in Ferguson and Hendershot, and also going to use Luepke some.

Missed out on a couple of CB's. Now Stephen has his work cut out for him to sign next years FA.

With that said, I think this mock would probably help the Dallas Cowboys more than most I have seen.

Dallas would still need to sign AShawn Robinson........but I think this would be about as good as I could expect.

What do you think?

I don't think Dallas will go this route at all, but I think if I were the OC.......man could I win some games with these guys.
 

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26: R1 P26 WR Quentin Johnston - TCU
58: R2 P27 LB Jack Campbell - Iowa
90: R3 P27 RB Devon Achane - Texas A&M
129: R4 P27 G Atonio Mafi - UCLA
169: R5 P34 QB Clayton Tune - Houston
212: R6 P35 RB Deuce Vaughn - Kansas State
244: R7 P27 FB Hunter Luepke - North Dakota State

They are going more WCO -- they draft the best X coming out of college, allowing CD to play the Y.
Campbell is the best MLB it seems, and has the size needed. He will be what they were getting in LVE pre neck injury.
Achane has ability and is a playmaker. Many will be surprised at how he will play in the offense.
Needed that guard so they went out and got a big one with lots of strength.
Romo waiting to happen drafted in the 5th.
another playmaker drafted in the 6th to return kicks, RB, slot, add more problems for the DC.
and the lead blocker, and pick up the blitz guy that can also run a bit picked up in the 7th.

I probably should have taken a TE in the 6th with the depth this draft has, but I believe in Ferguson and Hendershot, and also going to use Luepke some.

Missed out on a couple of CB's. Now Stephen has his work cut out for him to sign next years FA.

With that said, I think this mock would probably help the Dallas Cowboys more than most I have seen.

Dallas would still need to sign AShawn Robinson........but I think this would be about as good as I could expect.

What do you think?

I don't think Dallas will go this route at all, but I think if I were the OC.......man could I win some games with these guys.
Barf.
 

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26: R1 P26 WR Quentin Johnston - TCU
58: R2 P27 LB Jack Campbell - Iowa
90: R3 P27 RB Devon Achane - Texas A&M
129: R4 P27 G Atonio Mafi - UCLA
169: R5 P34 QB Clayton Tune - Houston
212: R6 P35 RB Deuce Vaughn - Kansas State
244: R7 P27 FB Hunter Luepke - North Dakota State

They are going more WCO -- they draft the best X coming out of college, allowing CD to play the Y.
Campbell is the best MLB it seems, and has the size needed. He will be what they were getting in LVE pre neck injury.
Achane has ability and is a playmaker. Many will be surprised at how he will play in the offense.
Needed that guard so they went out and got a big one with lots of strength.
Romo waiting to happen drafted in the 5th.
another playmaker drafted in the 6th to return kicks, RB, slot, add more problems for the DC.
and the lead blocker, and pick up the blitz guy that can also run a bit picked up in the 7th.

I probably should have taken a TE in the 6th with the depth this draft has, but I believe in Ferguson and Hendershot, and also going to use Luepke some.

Missed out on a couple of CB's. Now Stephen has his work cut out for him to sign next years FA.

With that said, I think this mock would probably help the Dallas Cowboys more than most I have seen.

Dallas would still need to sign AShawn Robinson........but I think this would be about as good as I could expect.

What do you think?

I don't think Dallas will go this route at all, but I think if I were the OC.......man could I win some games with these guys.
I like Round 3 and afterwards.
 

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26: R1 P26 WR Quentin Johnston - TCU
58: R2 P27 LB Jack Campbell - Iowa
90: R3 P27 RB Devon Achane - Texas A&M
129: R4 P27 G Atonio Mafi - UCLA
169: R5 P34 QB Clayton Tune - Houston
212: R6 P35 RB Deuce Vaughn - Kansas State
244: R7 P27 FB Hunter Luepke - North Dakota State

They are going more WCO -- they draft the best X coming out of college, allowing CD to play the Y.
Campbell is the best MLB it seems, and has the size needed. He will be what they were getting in LVE pre neck injury.
Achane has ability and is a playmaker. Many will be surprised at how he will play in the offense.
Needed that guard so they went out and got a big one with lots of strength.
Romo waiting to happen drafted in the 5th.
another playmaker drafted in the 6th to return kicks, RB, slot, add more problems for the DC.
and the lead blocker, and pick up the blitz guy that can also run a bit picked up in the 7th.

I probably should have taken a TE in the 6th with the depth this draft has, but I believe in Ferguson and Hendershot, and also going to use Luepke some.

Missed out on a couple of CB's. Now Stephen has his work cut out for him to sign next years FA.

With that said, I think this mock would probably help the Dallas Cowboys more than most I have seen.

Dallas would still need to sign AShawn Robinson........but I think this would be about as good as I could expect.

What do you think?

I don't think Dallas will go this route at all, but I think if I were the OC.......man could I win some games with these guys.
That draft makes little sense.
 

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That draft makes little sense.
Lets see round 1. Legit large WR that has played special. He is the X in a WCO. In the WCO it is more of a horizontal game than a vertical one. The X from what I was taught runs the under route if he is played outside and runs a go or can run an out if he is played inside. Teams usually start playing them outside, forcing them in because they are bigger than the DB's usually and one broken tackle means 6, so they force them back inside and then take the bigger LB's to punish them. Smaller WR do not stand up to the X in a legit WCO from what I have seen historically. This also let's the Y often get single coverage, which bodes well for CD and his ability in the open field. The Z needs speed, and usually clears out an area, or wins the deep ball. This works well in an 11 package. In a 21 package or 12 package, you just don't have the Z.

Round 2 -- I have read he is the best legit MLB in the draft. LVE can't play a legit MLB because he never learned to stack and shed so he always takes a side. Sometimes it works, but sometimes he is just trailing after the RB. A legit MLB along with a legit 1T stops teams from running between the tackles. And he has legit length and can play the middle zone in pass coverage.

Round 3 and Round 6 -- When you get teams widened out by putting in quick inside passes to big guys that can break a tackle and give you 6 if you don't get wider with them, you use quick hitting fast guys who can get inside and down the field quickly. Achane and Vaughn are the epitome of this. And if you try to load a big guy up inside to stop it, you move them out to the H and get them the ball quickly so they can get by the LB's. Pollard, Achane, and Vaughn would allow you to not need a bell cow back, but be able to utilize them in various ways.

Round 4 -- Need a guard to challenge, one that is big enough. Wanted Vorhees, but he will be red-shirted and Dallas doesn't have that luxury if they want to win it all this next year. Here is a guy that is big and strong and is a G.

Round 5 -- I think Tune will be a Romo in about 3-5 years. He has the physical tools. You have and are going to utilize Dak for the next 2 years. Get him some years of good training.

round 6 already discussed
Round 7 -- a Fullback. Well, I remembered Tom Rathman, and I remembered Daryl Johnston. Neither were necessarily great at anything, and yet the 49ers and Cowboys would not have been the teams they were without them. Need a back to stay in and block, why not utilize the 230+ lb guy instead of say Pollard. Can he block LB's in the open field? Is he big enough and strong enough to get a push on a DE? Can he run a little or give you short yardage?

So maybe it makes little sense to some people, but if Dallas got a legit MLB and NT, I think they stop the running on D, and allow Micah to basically move anywhere. A legit MLB means Micah can play some Will. t Clark plays Will, and he can play some DE, Willams in at DE and he plays the Mike. Parsons needs rest and SWilliams, Campbell, and Clark are in. So many options for Quinn to use if he had a legit MLB, and then LVE could play more Will as well, which is better suited to his style. D covered.

OL needs G, and I drafted a big one. New WCO and a legit big threat falls in your lap. Get it spread out, and legit quick RBs with speed can tear down a D, and you have several of them. Need blocking, and you have a FB that can actually allow you to run out of the 21 or 22 formations. So now you have 10 - keeping FB in,11,12, 20, 21, 22 formations available to your OC.

I say they have TE covered in Ferguson, McKeon, and Hendershot. I think they have OT covered in the Smiths and Steele, Waletzke, Ball. They have C covered in Biadasz and Farinok. Martin is a rock. And the LG is drafted to compete with the other backup linemen.
On D, you need another 1T or 3T admittedly, but DE is covered. That is why I said you get Ashawn as well.
LB has Parsons, Clark, Campbell, LVE and others for 2 spots.
Safety is covered, and for this year with Diggs, Gilmore, Bland, JLewis, Joseph, and NWright..........I think you got it covered or are at least weeding out a few.

What doesn't make sense?
 

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Lets see round 1. Legit large WR that has played special. He is the X in a WCO. In the WCO it is more of a horizontal game than a vertical one. The X from what I was taught runs the under route if he is played outside and runs a go or can run an out if he is played inside. Teams usually start playing them outside, forcing them in because they are bigger than the DB's usually and one broken tackle means 6, so they force them back inside and then take the bigger LB's to punish them. Smaller WR do not stand up to the X in a legit WCO from what I have seen historically. This also let's the Y often get single coverage, which bodes well for CD and his ability in the open field. The Z needs speed, and usually clears out an area, or wins the deep ball. This works well in an 11 package. In a 21 package or 12 package, you just don't have the Z.

Round 2 -- I have read he is the best legit MLB in the draft. LVE can't play a legit MLB because he never learned to stack and shed so he always takes a side. Sometimes it works, but sometimes he is just trailing after the RB. A legit MLB along with a legit 1T stops teams from running between the tackles. And he has legit length and can play the middle zone in pass coverage.

Round 3 and Round 6 -- When you get teams widened out by putting in quick inside passes to big guys that can break a tackle and give you 6 if you don't get wider with them, you use quick hitting fast guys who can get inside and down the field quickly. Achane and Vaughn are the epitome of this. And if you try to load a big guy up inside to stop it, you move them out to the H and get them the ball quickly so they can get by the LB's. Pollard, Achane, and Vaughn would allow you to not need a bell cow back, but be able to utilize them in various ways.

Round 4 -- Need a guard to challenge, one that is big enough. Wanted Vorhees, but he will be red-shirted and Dallas doesn't have that luxury if they want to win it all this next year. Here is a guy that is big and strong and is a G.

Round 5 -- I think Tune will be a Romo in about 3-5 years. He has the physical tools. You have and are going to utilize Dak for the next 2 years. Get him some years of good training.

round 6 already discussed
Round 7 -- a Fullback. Well, I remembered Tom Rathman, and I remembered Daryl Johnston. Neither were necessarily great at anything, and yet the 49ers and Cowboys would not have been the teams they were without them. Need a back to stay in and block, why not utilize the 230+ lb guy instead of say Pollard. Can he block LB's in the open field? Is he big enough and strong enough to get a push on a DE? Can he run a little or give you short yardage?

So maybe it makes little sense to some people, but if Dallas got a legit MLB and NT, I think they stop the running on D, and allow Micah to basically move anywhere. A legit MLB means Micah can play some Will. t Clark plays Will, and he can play some DE, Willams in at DE and he plays the Mike. Parsons needs rest and SWilliams, Campbell, and Clark are in. So many options for Quinn to use if he had a legit MLB, and then LVE could play more Will as well, which is better suited to his style. D covered.

OL needs G, and I drafted a big one. New WCO and a legit big threat falls in your lap. Get it spread out, and legit quick RBs with speed can tear down a D, and you have several of them. Need blocking, and you have a FB that can actually allow you to run out of the 21 or 22 formations. So now you have 10 - keeping FB in,11,12, 20, 21, 22 formations available to your OC.

I say they have TE covered in Ferguson, McKeon, and Hendershot. I think they have OT covered in the Smiths and Steele, Waletzke, Ball. They have C covered in Biadasz and Farinok. Martin is a rock. And the LG is drafted to compete with the other backup linemen.
On D, you need another 1T or 3T admittedly, but DE is covered. That is why I said you get Ashawn as well.
LB has Parsons, Clark, Campbell, LVE and others for 2 spots.
Safety is covered, and for this year with Diggs, Gilmore, Bland, JLewis, Joseph, and NWright..........I think you got it covered or are at least weeding out a few.

What doesn't make sense?
We dont need a receiver that badly and the WR you picked is a 2nd round talent in a good WR draft. So you got us a 4th WR for this year. Who is going to block for all these receivers? All the backs you picked are basically just like Pollard. TE is NOT covered if you want to run the football and pound it. I like Ferguson, but if you want to run the ball you need another good one.

Oline is our biggest need and its still a problem. You basically made this a skill position finesse draft. Its the opposite of what this team needs. We need a down and dirty trenches draft with a all around good TE thrown in there. A RB that is more than just a finesse speed guy.
 

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We dont need a receiver that badly and the WR you picked is a 2nd round talent in a good WR draft. So you got us a 4th WR for this year. Who is going to block for all these receivers? All the backs you picked are basically just like Pollard. TE is NOT covered if you want to run the football and pound it. I like Ferguson, but if you want to run the ball you need another good one.

Oline is our biggest need and its still a problem. You basically made this a skill position finesse draft. Its the opposite of what this team needs. We need a down and dirty trenches draft with a all around good TE thrown in there. A RB that is more than just a finesse speed guy.
I don't see an X WR out there besides him.
The backs are playmakers that are quick and can take it to the house any play. I guess everyone thinks you have to have a bell cow.

I disagree with TE being an issue, and if he runs a more WCO, he will spread out the offense and open up the running, Dallas will probably only keep three. One blocker, one receiver, and one all-round. They have that already on the roster.

Walsh ran most of his version of the WCO in '88, with SB win, out of 21 -- Craig, Rathman, and TE Jones with Rice the X and Taylor the Y if my memory serves me.

Different ways to skin a cat, I guess.
 

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Worst mock yet
I respect your opinion, but would you care to elaborate?
What's so bad about it?

In the end, It is Jerry's team and he is going to do whatever he wants --- even if I could take the guys I mock drafted and win the SB every year. Point being is this is a place to express opinions and elaborate on why so Jerry can do it his way and we can complain about it year, after year, after year, after year (many years).
 

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26: R1 P26 WR Quentin Johnston - TCU
58: R2 P27 LB Jack Campbell - Iowa
90: R3 P27 RB Devon Achane - Texas A&M
129: R4 P27 G Atonio Mafi - UCLA
169: R5 P34 QB Clayton Tune - Houston
212: R6 P35 RB Deuce Vaughn - Kansas State
244: R7 P27 FB Hunter Luepke - North Dakota State

They are going more WCO -- they draft the best X coming out of college, allowing CD to play the Y.
Campbell is the best MLB it seems, and has the size needed. He will be what they were getting in LVE pre neck injury.
Achane has ability and is a playmaker. Many will be surprised at how he will play in the offense.
Needed that guard so they went out and got a big one with lots of strength.
Romo waiting to happen drafted in the 5th.
another playmaker drafted in the 6th to return kicks, RB, slot, add more problems for the DC.
and the lead blocker, and pick up the blitz guy that can also run a bit picked up in the 7th.

I probably should have taken a TE in the 6th with the depth this draft has, but I believe in Ferguson and Hendershot, and also going to use Luepke some.

Missed out on a couple of CB's. Now Stephen has his work cut out for him to sign next years FA.

With that said, I think this mock would probably help the Dallas Cowboys more than most I have seen.

Dallas would still need to sign AShawn Robinson........but I think this would be about as good as I could expect.

What do you think?

I don't think Dallas will go this route at all, but I think if I were the OC.......man could I win some games with these guys.
I see where your heart is when making these picks. QJohnson doesn't use his body to his advantage and is a body catcher. He has all the physical traits to be someone, it's a matter of if we can develop him into that WR. Not sure if this is our best trait as a staff. I like Mingo, who you can get a round or two later. I also like others like Michael Wilson, who has the physical traits but is much better route runner. He has an injury history, that is concerning, but I think he'll probably go round 4 or 5. Some like Tillman in this draft. Of course, I say all this, just to point out guys who may have the profile you are looking for. I also think there will probably be a better prospect at CB available at 1. There also may be some edge guys available that could help Micah playing off the line at his natural position. I think the talent and value is better spent there. With that being said, QJ has something, just a matter of if he'll ever meet the potential, you think he will,
and that's just like your opinion man.
-The Dude

I think you take one RB between these two. Achane is def a home run threat, and Vaughn has the skills. Both undersized. I like Bigsby, Abanikanda, Brown and many others with some weight to help punch em in. I really like Jordan Mims as a late round 7 pick.

I love Jack Campbell, but I don't think the best MLB in the draft, who has the tape and the combine performance, will last to 58.

All-in-all, the critique, IMO, would be, taking QJ, means we've probably passed on a prospect with higher floor and similar ceiling. Jack, IMO, doesn't make it to round 2. And taking two small backs, is fun, but will come with caution and major reservations when it comes to executing situational plays.

It's all opinion, none of us are pros.
 

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I see where your heart is when making these picks. QJohnson doesn't use his body to his advantage and is a body catcher. He has all the physical traits to be someone, it's a matter of if we can develop him into that WR. Not sure if this is our best trait as a staff. I like Mingo, who you can get a round or two later. I also like others like Michael Wilson, who has the physical traits but is much better route runner. He has an injury history, that is concerning, but I think he'll probably go round 4 or 5. Some like Tillman in this draft. Of course, I say all this, just to point out guys who may have the profile you are looking for. I also think there will probably be a better prospect at CB available at 1. There also may be some edge guys available that could help Micah playing off the line at his natural position. I think the talent and value is better spent there. With that being said, QJ has something, just a matter of if he'll ever meet the potential, you think he will,
and that's just like your opinion man.
-The Dude

I think you take one RB between these two. Achane is def a home run threat, and Vaughn has the skills. Both undersized. I like Bigsby, Abanikanda, Brown and many others with some weight to help punch em in. I really like Jordan Mims as a late round 7 pick.

I love Jack Campbell, but I don't think the best MLB in the draft, who has the tape and the combine performance, will last to 58.

All-in-all, the critique, IMO, would be, taking QJ, means we've probably passed on a prospect with higher floor and similar ceiling. Jack, IMO, doesn't make it to round 2. And taking two small backs, is fun, but will come with caution and major reservations when it comes to executing situational plays.

It's all opinion, none of us are pros.
Excellent response.....I appreciate that......thank you.
 

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I respect your opinion, but would you care to elaborate?
What's so bad about it?

In the end, It is Jerry's team and he is going to do whatever he wants --- even if I could take the guys I mock drafted and win the SB every year. Point being is this is a place to express opinions and elaborate on why so Jerry can do it his way and we can complain about it year, after year, after year, after year (many years).
I apologize I just realized that this was your mock and not a so called professional or I would not have been so blunt.

I am just not a fan of a wr in the first and 3 RB's in the later rounds.

Again I apologize for my rudeness on what you obviously spent a lot of time on.

I am way to lazy to do a mock myself.
 

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26: R1 P26 WR Quentin Johnston - TCU
58: R2 P27 LB Jack Campbell - Iowa
90: R3 P27 RB Devon Achane - Texas A&M
129: R4 P27 G Atonio Mafi - UCLA
169: R5 P34 QB Clayton Tune - Houston
212: R6 P35 RB Deuce Vaughn - Kansas State
244: R7 P27 FB Hunter Luepke - North Dakota State
Not to be too critical or anything, but this mock draft is way too heavy in offensive skill positions.

WR, QB, and three RBs............that is way too lopsided if I am being totally honest.
 

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You're taking Vaughn and Achane...two of the same player. I guess it makes sense since they're both so tiny.

Would be interesting.
 
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