Did Bradie James wear down?

TEK2000;1426949 said:
Personally, I felt like the opposing offenses found a flaw in the way Bradie plays zone coverage. The problem I noticed is that he runs down the field for a while and once the TE gets passed him... he loses track of him completely. Well, then the TE would slip into a hole between Bradie James and Roy Williams. Roy is deep playing the cover 2 and Bradie loses track of the TE that's behind him and it winds up leaving the TE open in deep middle of the field. This started with the Saints and was still apparent against the Seahawks.

The other thing was that opposing offenses used Bradie's "bailing out" coverage against us.... meaning that they'd run TE/Reciever routes to get Bradie going deep into zone coverage and then throw a short screen to the RB outta the backfield that wound up going for longer gains than they should.

Bradie is good against the run... but needs work in coverage. I also think we were UNABLE to use him the way he needs to be used because we ran a Tampa 2 style coverage scheme. Imagine a larger, run stopping LBer like Bradie James trying to play deep coverage zones and you get the exact results we saw... James having trouble in coverage. If we could have given him shorter, smaller zones to cover I think he would have done just fine.

It might be best to have Carp and Burnett as our Nickel LBers because both of them have shown good skills in coverage... Ayodele is not too bad either.

Good stuff. That was what so frustrating last year. Bradie's limitations were exposed and the coaching staff did nothing to adjust for it. Burnett played OLB in the Tampa 2 and both Carp and Ayodele have experience covering backs and TEs in the 4-3. They could do no worse than James did.
 
I think we might have given him too much credit too soon.

He's was pretty awful his first couple of seasons. He took bad angles to plays. He was often out of position in coverage.

Then he had his "career" year in his third season.

Last season, he was somewhere between the above.

I guess we'll see who he is within Phillips' system.
 
Juke99;1427050 said:
I think we might have given him too much credit too soon.

He's was pretty awful his first couple of seasons. He took bad angles to plays. He was often out of position in coverage.

Then he had his "career" year in his third season.

Last season, he was somewhere between the above.

I guess we'll see who he is within Phillips' system.

On the nosey.;)
 
Crown Royal;1427055 said:
On the nosey.;)

Well, I figure, let's see how he performs with Phillips.

I just think we MAY have been guilty of over rating one of our own players based on his third season.

And watch the "on the nosey" thing..or you'll be hearing from my attorney. ;)
 
Juke99;1427050 said:
I think we might have given him too much credit too soon.

He's was pretty awful his first couple of seasons. He took bad angles to plays. He was often out of position in coverage.

Then he had his "career" year in his third season.

Last season, he was somewhere between the above.

I guess we'll see who he is within Phillips' system.

In 2005 when he was playing well, he was no longer taking said bad angles and being out of position. I dont recall him doing that last season either although a guard or two had his number on occasion. Shaun Andrews went to the probowl for a reason.

What his main problem was trying to run with the TE/back on deep and intermediate routes as he just couldnt keep up and our safties are lined up 20 yards deep. In 2005 I remember him deflecting passes and making quick tackles in the short zone not 10+ yards up the field. He wasnt asked to cover a deep zone. Donnie Edwards he is not.

Now all of that failure to cover in the flats has been blamed on Ware, James, Fowler or whoever wss the closest at any particular time. I dont think anyone outside of VR can say definitively that was his fault.

He was asked to different things last season and when he couldnt do them the coaching staff continued the same assignments. Now it obviously showed his limitations but he is not a perfect player. Short zones and hes shown he can do it and I seriously doubt he suddenly lost the ability he had a season before. He certainly didnt look out of shape or anything of that nature.
 
Honestly I don't think it had anything to do with the physical side. He's conditioned well enough to prevent that, at least any more than your average starting ILB.

Thing with Brady is, he's never been "right" in the head as a linebacker. Never. And he never will be. He had one season where we saw very little of his "issues"... but that's it. He's back. he has these ridiculous mental lapses where he'll get caught out of position until it's too late to react. Roy has it too. He's got the physical tools, and I think he probably knows the playbook well enough to call a decent game, but he doesn't have leadership quality - he doesn't have a field generalship about him.

That's the problem with our defense. Roy evades reporters and gets defensive about everything. T-New has called his own teammates out. D-Ware is too young. There is no leader on defense outside of the requisite, "I'm older than you so listen to me." I think there's probably one to be had - Newman is on the cusp and I can see Ware being there soon enough, with age. But until then, guys like Bradie are thrust into default leadership positions where they don't belong.

He'll never be better than what he is now. He'll always show flashes, always seem like he's "almost there"... and then he'll bite hard on a fake or miss a blatantly easy tackle and you're going to start doubting him again.
 
parchy;1427155 said:
Honestly I don't think it had anything to do with the physical side. He's conditioned well enough to prevent that, at least any more than your average starting ILB.

Thing with Brady is, he's never been "right" in the head as a linebacker. Never. And he never will be. He had one season where we saw very little of his "issues"... but that's it. He's back. he has these ridiculous mental lapses where he'll get caught out of position until it's too late to react. Roy has it too. He's got the physical tools, and I think he probably knows the playbook well enough to call a decent game, but he doesn't have leadership quality - he doesn't have a field generalship about him.

That's the problem with our defense. Roy evades reporters and gets defensive about everything. T-New has called his own teammates out. D-Ware is too young. There is no leader on defense outside of the requisite, "I'm older than you so listen to me." I think there's probably one to be had - Newman is on the cusp and I can see Ware being there soon enough, with age. But until then, guys like Bradie are thrust into default leadership positions where they don't belong.

He'll never be better than what he is now. He'll always show flashes, always seem like he's "almost there"... and then he'll bite hard on a fake or miss a blatantly easy tackle and you're going to start doubting him again.

You have to honor the run fake on the goalline. Sure he bit a few times on that but then everyone was quick to point the finger at him. In Spagnolas recent mail he stated that it was Fowlers responsibility on the flat. For all we know James may have been assigned to crash the run. We just dont know. The glaring weakness I saw was him looking foolish trying to turn and run with TEs on ups posts or the like.

I just find it hard to believe that after 16 games in a season he just 'lost' it barring injury which i dont recall. All this talk of leadership is overrated. A leader is not going to give James the footspeed to keep up with Cooley. Just isnt going to happen.
 
FuzzyLumpkins;1427179 said:
You have to honor the run fake on the goalline. Sure he bit a few times on that but then everyone was quick to point the finger at him. In Spagnolas recent mail he stated that it was Fowlers responsibility on the flat. For all we know James may have been assigned to crash the run. We just dont know. The glaring weakness I saw was him looking foolish trying to turn and run with TEs on ups posts or the like.

I just find it hard to believe that after 16 games in a season he just 'lost' it barring injury which i dont recall. All this talk of leadership is overrated. A leader is not going to give James the footspeed to keep up with Cooley. Just isnt going to happen.

I'm not just talking about this year, although that is part of it. I'm talking about those two years before 2005 when he looked, for lack of a better word, lost... and a lot. He's made good plays - I will gladly concede that. The one versus the Seahawks last year where he tipped that INT to Newman (I think it was Newman) was sheer beauty, and you can't do that without talent.

But he's flighty. I think people glazed over his issues in '05 because for every two bad plays he'd make a damn nice one, erasing the doubts he had just risen. He didn't do that last year. Whether or not he ever really comes around is up for discussion (clearly), but where his game is now, I think, is cause for alarm. And now is all that matters in sports. That's never more clear than in his contract. Take away his 2005 and there's no way he's still a Cowboy... especially with Daddy Parcells and his bogus three year rule now out the door.

I like Bradie, and I'm rooting for him. He's a good guy, and the Cowboys are still looking for his back-up, let alone a replacement for him. So I'm clearly not advocating we cut him, but you've got to be critical with critical positions, and Bradie's is one of the biggest.
 
everyone plays hurt... some better than others! Maybe Bradie is not as good as some cowboy fans wish...
 
FuzzyLumpkins;1427179 said:
A leader is not going to give James the footspeed to keep up with Cooley. Just isnt going to happen.

Maybe I missed this. I understand James' physical limitations, which is why I've put a limiter on my expectations for the guy. If he exceeds those, great. If not, I won't be surprised. It's his seeming inability to bring fire to the field that has me perplexed, and it's intertwined with how he plays. He doesn't play with confidence. Watch the better players and you can feel their energy. They exude it through every step they take. Bradie seems unsure and tentative. I don't care how outspoken you are, you can't lead by playing like that.
 
dbair1967;1426033 said:
more people criticized the scheme

it will be fixed for 2007

I dont recall a single post with anything negative on James in 2005, or even for most of the 1st half of 2006...he went to being "another great Parcells find" to a bum overnight

David

He just started being bad overnight.
 
parchy;1427504 said:
Maybe I missed this. I understand James' physical limitations, which is why I've put a limiter on my expectations for the guy. If he exceeds those, great. If not, I won't be surprised. It's his seeming inability to bring fire to the field that has me perplexed, and it's intertwined with how he plays. He doesn't play with confidence. Watch the better players and you can feel their energy. They exude it through every step they take. Bradie seems unsure and tentative. I don't care how outspoken you are, you can't lead by playing like that.

And again you keep going to the leadership aspect of all this. Of course you lead by doing but success more that anything breeds good leadership and not the other way around. I really dont care so much about James ability to lead but rather him being able to succeed at playing his position.

Youre trying to go with an emotional appeal in all of this and as its subjective all I can say is that I did not get the same impression from watching the games. One things James does not do and really any of the other players on defense is throw someone under the bus. Say for example it indeed was Fowlers responsibiility to cover the FB in the flat. If Fowler misses that assignment and James pauses for a moment to decide he needs to pick that up does that make him indecisive or is he just covering someone elses butt. Again we just dont know what was going on on the field.

There is one thing that after last season that i am convinced of and that was that the defense was poorly coached in all aspects.

The entire team last season was constantly looking as if they were confused as to what they were supposed to be doing. All of the linebackers and defensive backs looked confused as to where to lineup. Blitzes were poorly executed and stunts were an absolute joke. Now some of the blame has to fall on James as it should. He was the 'leader' of that defense and as such he is accountable.

At the same time, after the play starts and safties are blowing coverages, linebackers are blowing coverage, defensive linemen are not getting anywhere and it starts to look like the whole defense is looking tenative. At this point I am in wait and see mode and hopefully the new defensive system will not be more of the same.
 
3 pages long to say this....


Bradie James got real bad, real fast.

Carp should be his competition in TC and Carp will take his spot IMO.
 
smarta5150;1427545 said:
3 pages long to say this....


Bradie James got real bad, real fast.

Carp should be his competition in TC and Carp will take his spot IMO.

that is a given the discussion is about why he got bad all of a sudden and if we were to put Carp there who starts outside. Burnett makes more senst there IMO anyway.
 
FuzzyLumpkins;1427555 said:
that is a given the discussion is about why he got bad all of a sudden and if we were to put Carp there who starts outside. Burnett makes more senst there IMO anyway.

You like Burnett better inside or OLB?

Didnt quite follow that part, I think you mean ILB?
 
smarta5150;1427556 said:
You like Burnett better inside or OLB?

Didnt quite follow that part, I think you mean ILB?

yeah ilb sorry i was thinking that could be confusing. he could play the Edwards role in the phillips system.
 
FuzzyLumpkins;1427558 said:
yeah ilb sorry i was thinking that could be confusing. he could play the Edwards role in the phillips system.

Yeah I think Wade even mentioned using Burnett.

I honestly wouldnt mind either way as long as Bradie is on the bench (OR he has some sort of magical recovery which I doubt).

I like the youth of the "could be" LBer core.
 
smarta5150;1427562 said:
Yeah I think Wade even mentioned using Burnett.

I honestly wouldnt mind either way as long as Bradie is on the bench (OR he has some sort of magical recovery which I doubt).

I like the youth of the "could be" LBer core.

What people dont recognize is that James assignments were switched last year. He was no longer the primary run/short zone guy but instead the primary coverage LBer. Payton showed how to exploit that and the wheels fell off. You use him right and hell be fine i think but he is not a nickel backer by any means. At least thats what i think.

Our defensive coaching staff was far from creative last year. It was the same blitzes and coverages over and over again. Line them up and have your man win is great if they can but its not so good when they cannot.
 

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