Don't Force The Pick

[Verdict]

I have thinking about the least desirable direction that I believe the Cowboys have a realistic chance of going in the draft which would be a worst case scenario for the team. I have come to the conclusion that taking a receiver in the first round is probably the least desirable outcome.

Make no mistake about it. We need a receiver and Dez needs to go. TWill is unreliable, Butler is gone. But the team should not panic and try to force a square peg into a round hole by grabbing a receiver in the first round.

None of the receivers appear to be first round talents and there is usually talent to be found later on in the draft at receiver. I wouldn't be opposed to drafting a couple somewhere in this draft class. But we don't "need" to be pressured to draft a guy high to replace Dez even if we cut Dez.

A later round guy 2-5 could be just as effective as Dez for a fraction of the cost. It doesn't take a 1st round choice to replace the slug we call Dez.

 

[Stash]

I have thinking about the least desirable direction that I believe the Cowboys have a realistic chance of going in the draft which would be a worst case scenario for the team. I have come to the conclusion that taking a receiver in the first round is probably the least desirable outcome.

Make no mistake about it. We need a receiver and Dez needs to go. TWill is unreliable, Butler is gone. But the team should not panic and try to force a square peg into a round hole by grabbing a receiver in the first round.

None of the receivers appear to be first round talents and there is usually talent to be found later on in the draft at receiver. I wouldn't be opposed to drafting a couple somewhere in this draft class. But we don't "need" to be pressured to draft a guy high to replace Dez even if we cut Dez.

A later round guy 2-5 could be just as effective as Dez for a fraction of the cost. It doesn't take a 1st round choice to replace the slug we call Dez.

I'm not bashing Dez, but I do agree that none of this year's receivers would be worth forcing the pick at #19. They all have flaws in their game and few, if any are considered clear-cut #1 receivers. It would be foolish to use your first round pick on a guy who won't ever be your #1.

 

[Verdict]

I'm not bashing Dez, but I do agree that none of this year's receivers would be worth forcing the pick at #19. They all have flaws in their game and few, if any are considered clear-cut #1 receivers. It would be foolish to use your first round pick on a guy who won't ever be your #1.

I agree with what you are saying. That is the point of my OP but I am also saying that not only does this receiver class probably not merit the use of a first round pick, there shouldn't be pressure to force the pick based on some notion that losing Dez is some massive loss. It's addition by subtraction.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It depends how draft falls.
I think Calvin Ridley is worth the pick at 19.

I also think at receiver there is talent in those 2nd and 3rd rounds. I've always felt that a Sterling Sherpard type pick would be tremendous. And I'm hoping for that.

I think at 19.....the Taco Charlton and TJ Watt type potential guys are going to be around there or the injury risk guys. And at that point....I can't argue against Ridley if he's there. I think a few teams before us might go after him.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I agree with what you are saying. That is the point of my OP but I am also saying that not only does this receiver class probably not merit the use of a first round pick, there shouldn't be pressure to force the pick based on some notion that losing Dez is some massive loss. It's addition by subtraction.

I don't know about that. As bad as Dez was.....he's still better than Terrance or Witten as a #1. Getting rid of him still needs to be replaced. We want better than what he gave us last year. Not the same.

 

[phildadon86]

It depends how draft falls.
I think Calvin Ridley is worth the pick at 19.

I also think at receiver there is talent in those 2nd and 3rd rounds. I've always felt that a Sterling Sherpard type pick would be tremendous. And I'm hoping for that.

I think at 19.....the Taco Charlton and TJ Watt type potential guys are going to be around there or the injury risk guys. And at that point....I can't argue against Ridley if he's there. I think a few teams before us might go after him.

Baltimore. I think they snake us for him. He is definitely a first round talent to me. Played in a run first offense and still put up some serious numbers. However his age may be a factor in where he gets drafted

 

[northerncowboynation]

We have lots of need positions on this team. We all know them. Fact is there are very few positions that don't need depth at the least and an infusion of talent at the most. No reason to lock in on one player or one position. It will be a lot clearer after FA just what those needs are. Hitch? Cooper? LB'er and G are two positions that we'll have better answers to after FA

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Baltimore. I think they snake us for him. He is definitely a first round talent to me. Played in a run first offense and still put up some serious numbers. However his age may be a factor in where he gets drafted

Yeah it's hard to argue against the Ravens, Dolphins and Cardinals. Bears need receivers bad. They have a franchise qb. Usually bad teams with a franchise qb go linemen in that first round but they very well could reach.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

We have lots of need positions on this team. We all know them. Fact is there are very few positions that don't need depth at the least and an infusion of talent at the most. No reason to lock in on one player or one position. It will be a lot clearer after FA just what those needs are. Hitch? Cooper? LB'er and G are two positions that we'll have better answers to after FA

Yeah but at the same time you don't want to reach for those positions either.

 

[Stash]

I agree with what you are saying. That is the point of my OP but I am also saying that not only does this receiver class probably not merit the use of a first round pick, there shouldn't be pressure to force the pick based on some notion that losing Dez is some massive loss. It's addition by subtraction.

It would be unrelated for me. I'm not forcing the pick because of the Bryant situation one way or the other. If he stayed or if he went.

 

[sideon]

I have thinking about the least desirable direction that I believe the Cowboys have a realistic chance of going in the draft which would be a worst case scenario for the team. I have come to the conclusion that taking a receiver in the first round is probably the least desirable outcome.

Make no mistake about it. We need a receiver and Dez needs to go. TWill is unreliable, Butler is gone. But the team should not panic and try to force a square peg into a round hole by grabbing a receiver in the first round.

None of the receivers appear to be first round talents and there is usually talent to be found later on in the draft at receiver. I wouldn't be opposed to drafting a couple somewhere in this draft class. But we don't "need" to be pressured to draft a guy high to replace Dez even if we cut Dez.

A later round guy 2-5 could be just as effective as Dez for a fraction of the cost. It doesn't take a 1st round choice to replace the slug we call Dez.

 

[glimmerman]

I have thinking about the least desirable direction that I believe the Cowboys have a realistic chance of going in the draft which would be a worst case scenario for the team. I have come to the conclusion that taking a receiver in the first round is probably the least desirable outcome.

Make no mistake about it. We need a receiver and Dez needs to go. TWill is unreliable, Butler is gone. But the team should not panic and try to force a square peg into a round hole by grabbing a receiver in the first round.

None of the receivers appear to be first round talents and there is usually talent to be found later on in the draft at receiver. I wouldn't be opposed to drafting a couple somewhere in this draft class. But we don't "need" to be pressured to draft a guy high to replace Dez even if we cut Dez.

A later round guy 2-5 could be just as effective as Dez for a fraction of the cost. It doesn't take a 1st round choice to replace the slug we call Dez.

butler is gone and TWill is no good. So let’s dump Dez and have no real WR. I think that would be a bad move by our staff. We aren’t going to draft a immediate impact WR. And FA needs time in the system and working with Dak. We need to draft and bring in WR to bring along and learn the system so they can step up next year. Must have been something about butler they didn’t like. He was starting to come along. Maybe Noah or another will step up?

 

[RodeoJake]

I'm not disputing Ridley's talent. To be honest, I've never seen him play. I have to question a few things. Is he that much better than a receiver we could get in the third or fourth rounds? Will he be able to step in and produce from day one or will it take a year or two for him to click with our offence? Would it be more beneficial to sign a proven receiver to a one year prove it deal and use draft picks to fill more pressing needs?

A lot seem to be down on Dez, but I think he and Dak should fix the disconnect between them. From what I've seen, the problem is on both ends, and not on the individual. Just my old horse sense kicking in or maybe the last time my little mustang kicked me did more damage than I thought.

 

[Chuck 54]

Until I see him sign a contract with another team, I'm not going to say that Butler is definitely gone.
Who's to say that he doesn't sign resign a reasonable contract, even a 1-year contract if other teams don't come knocking with the sack of money he hopes they bring.

 

[northerncowboynation]

Yeah but at the same time you don't want to reach for those positions either.

Exactly what I meant by not getting stuck on one player and one position. We have enough needs to go best player at about 5 need positions.

 

[glimmerman]

Until I see him sign a contract with another team, I'm not going to say that Butler is definitely gone.
Who's to say that he doesn't sign resign a reasonable contract, even a 1-year contract if other teams don't come knocking with the sack of money he hopes they bring.

Yeah. No team is gonna come knocking for his services with a bag of money. He would have been lucky to get a descent contract from us. He is the one opening his mouth saying he wanted out if he wasn’t a starter.

 

[northerncowboynation]

Yeah. No team is gonna come knocking for his services with a bag of money. He would have been lucky to get a descent contract from us. He is the one opening his mouth saying he wanted out if he wasn’t a starter.

Yep, if he wanted to play for the Cowboys, he found a strange way to express it at the end of the season

 

[windward]

While we need to replace Dez and soon, I’m
Not certain that releasing him this year with no heir apparent is the best move for 2018.

Hesitant to go WR at 19.

 

[glimmerman]

Yep, if he wanted to play for the Cowboys, he found a strange way to express it at the end of the season

We should have been developing another WR for a few years now. I realize they don’t grow on trees but they have acted as if we were fine.

 

[northerncowboynation]

I have thinking about the least desirable direction that I believe the Cowboys have a realistic chance of going in the draft which would be a worst case scenario for the team. I have come to the conclusion that taking a receiver in the first round is probably the least desirable outcome.

Make no mistake about it. We need a receiver and Dez needs to go. TWill is unreliable, Butler is gone. But the team should not panic and try to force a square peg into a round hole by grabbing a receiver in the first round.

None of the receivers appear to be first round talents and there is usually talent to be found later on in the draft at receiver. I wouldn't be opposed to drafting a couple somewhere in this draft class. But we don't "need" to be pressured to draft a guy high to replace Dez even if we cut Dez.

A later round guy 2-5 could be just as effective as Dez for a fraction of the cost. It doesn't take a 1st round choice to replace the slug we call Dez.

Yeah I think Cooper Kupp is an example of that kind of guy in last years draft. He was highly regarded as one of the best route runners in the draft but his 40 time at the combine sucked and dropped him a bit into the third round. He turned into one of Goff's go to guy and put up much better numbers than WR's taken earlier. I think teams are starting to see that players with injury concern in college often carry that through into the NFL.