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[Biggems]

I am sorry, but I dont like it when teams lay down in the 2nd half after dominating in the first half, the way Oregon did. You scheduled the opponent, now go out there and wipe off the face of the planet if you have that ability.

I can see taking your starters out. But run the same offense and defense with your 2nd, 3rd, and 4th stringers. Don't just sit on the ball.

I would rather my opponent beat me 100-0, then to show mercy and only beat me 55-17.....so we scored 17, big deal, only cause they completely shut it down and put themselves on cruise control for an entire half. To me, that is a show of disrespect and an indirect slap to the face.

This is sports, you are taught to play from start to finish and give it all you have. Sometimes your all is far superior, sometimes it is quite inferior. Play the entire game with the same urgency you play with with you are playing for a Championship. Give it everything you have, with every player you have. If the opponent has no answer for you and cannot stop you, that isn't your problem, that is their problem. They need to get better, recruit better, coach better, condition better.

Besides, even though Savannah St. got destroyed, they still got to play a top school in Okie St., they got some much needed exposure and media attention, and they made a nice chunk of change for their efforts. Those kids go back to school knowing, that even though they lost, they took a positive step forward for their football program.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I am sorry, but I dont like it when teams lay down in the 2nd half after dominating in the first half, the way Oregon did. You scheduled the opponent, now go out there and wipe off the face of the planet if you have that ability.

I can see taking your starters out. But run the same offense and defense with your 2nd, 3rd, and 4th stringers. Don't just sit on the ball.

I would rather my opponent beat me 100-0, then to show mercy and only beat me 55-17.....so we scored 17, big deal, only cause they completely shut it down and put themselves on cruise control for an entire half. To me, that is a show of disrespect and an indirect slap to the face.

This is sports, you are taught to play from start to finish and give it all you have. Sometimes your all is far superior, sometimes it is quite inferior. Play the entire game with the same urgency you play with with you are playing for a Championship. Give it everything you have, with every player you have. If the opponent has no answer for you and cannot stop you, that isn't your problem, that is their problem. They need to get better, recruit better, coach better, condition better.

Well said, .. thank you.

Never stop trying, .. either team.

I have dealt with this as a coach myself. I have worked hard to prepare my team to perform at the best level that they can. Do not expect me to have them stop trying just because your team has quit trying to win. I will play my youngest and less talented kids after the score gets lop-sided, but we will still play hard and continue to try and score. That is what we practiced and practiced to teach them to do. You should continue to try and stop us.

I have received flack sometimes in the past for what people say was running up the score, (sometimes from my wife, LOL) but all I was doing was allowing my kids to do what we taught them to do.

 

[Biggems]

Well said, .. thank you.

Never stop trying, .. either team.

I have dealt with this as a coach myself. I have worked hard to prepare my team to perform at the best level that they can. Do not expect me to have them stop trying just because your team has quit trying to win. I will play my youngest and less talented kids after the score gets lop-sided, but we will still play hard and continue to try and score. That is what we practiced and practiced to teach them to do. You should continue to try and stop us.

I have received flack sometimes in the past for what people say was running up the score, (sometimes from my wife, LOL) but all I was doing was allowing my kids to do what we taught them to do.

exactly......you dont stop trying to make money just because you are getting rich......well, unless our current federal governmen keeps trying to stop you.....no, you try to make as much money as possible, while you are viable to do so...

 

[casmith07]

I am sorry, but I dont like it when teams lay down in the 2nd half after dominating in the first half, the way Oregon did. You scheduled the opponent, now go out there and wipe off the face of the planet if you have that ability.

I can see taking your starters out. But run the same offense and defense with your 2nd, 3rd, and 4th stringers. Don't just sit on the ball.

I would rather my opponent beat me 100-0, then to show mercy and only beat me 55-17.....so we scored 17, big deal, only cause they completely shut it down and put themselves on cruise control for an entire half. To me, that is a show of disrespect and an indirect slap to the face.

This is sports, you are taught to play from start to finish and give it all you have. Sometimes your all is far superior, sometimes it is quite inferior. Play the entire game with the same urgency you play with with you are playing for a Championship. Give it everything you have, with every player you have. If the opponent has no answer for you and cannot stop you, that isn't your problem, that is their problem. They need to get better, recruit better, coach better, condition better.

Besides, even though Savannah St. got destroyed, they still got to play a top school in Okie St., they got some much needed exposure and media attention, and they made a nice chunk of change for their efforts. Those kids go back to school knowing, that even though they lost, they took a positive step forward for their football program.

It could come back to bite Oregon, since they won't have a strong margin of victory, etc.

 

[viman96]

Oregon pulled some starters on Offense with 7 minutes left in the 2nd quarter. Not sure about the defense. The final score would have been ridiculous if they left them in.

 

[jcollins28]

Shocker, another cheating scandal with U$Cheat. CHEAT ON!!!

 

[jterrell]

exactly......you dont stop trying to make money just because you are getting rich......well, unless our current federal governmen keeps trying to stop you.....no, you try to make as much money as possible, while you are viable to do so...

you dont have to run the same offense.

you work on things that have been giving you problems. you develop areas you wouldn't ordinarily develop.

doing the same thing over and over doesn't help you when you face a team can stop that one thing. so you learn other things.

oregon has always struggled with any type of ball control. that's exactly what they should have been working in the 2nd half.

it is about making yourself better not pounding the weak.

again the business take is questionable as well. this is what novice business people do. smart business people again diversify and protect their money long-term rather than try to merely build a big stack with no safety nets. make less now to see it grow surely and soundly over time.

 

[jterrell]

It could come back to bite Oregon, since they won't have a strong margin of victory, etc.

no it cant. there is cap on margin of victory at about 35-40 points. anything over that is for your own ego but serves zero purpose in the BCS standings.

 

[Biggems]

you dont have to run the same offense.

you work on things that have been giving you problems. you develop areas you wouldn't ordinarily develop.

doing the same thing over and over doesn't help you when you face a team can stop that one thing. so you learn other things.

oregon has always struggled with any type of ball control. that's exactly what they should have been working in the 2nd half.

it is about making yourself better not pounding the weak.

again the business take is questionable as well. this is what novice business people do. smart business people again diversify and protect their money long-term rather than try to merely build a big stack with no safety nets. make less now to see it grow surely and soundly over time.

when you diversify and build long term growth, are you not still making money? I said making money, and didn't specify how.......as opposed to completely shutting down and not making any at all. BTW, you strike while the iron is hot, you get as much jack as you can when you can. As you are accumulating said jack, you can be sheltering it, investing it, diversifying it, or whatever.

yes you can work on new wrinkles, if you leave your starters in. however, with a huge lead, most teams bring in reserves. if so, then you run the same offense and defense and allow those reserves to get much needed gametime within the system. you allow them as many reps as possible, so that in case of an injury, the backup, or the backup to the backup, can be counted on when called upon.

In the Oregon game, the starters should have played the entire 1st half. They could have used the 2nd string in the 3rd quarter. Then in the 4th, start with your 3rd string and if you have enough depth, allow some 4th string players to play in the closing minutes.

The score would have been ridiculous no doubt, but pretty much the entire eligible roster would have gotten field time in an actual game.

 

[Biggems]

Shocker, another cheating scandal with U$Cheat. CHEAT ON!!!

USC - University of Sports Cheaters

 

[jterrell]

when you diversify and build long term growth, are you not still making money? I said making money, and didn't specify how.......as opposed to completely shutting down and not making any at all. BTW, you strike while the iron is hot, you get as much jack as you can when you can. As you are accumulating said jack, you can be sheltering it, investing it, diversifying it, or whatever.

yes you can work on new wrinkles, if you leave your starters in. however, with a huge lead, most teams bring in reserves. if so, then you run the same offense and defense and allow those reserves to get much needed gametime within the system. you allow them as many reps as possible, so that in case of an injury, the backup, or the backup to the backup, can be counted on when called upon.

In the Oregon game, the starters should have played the entire 1st half. They could have used the 2nd string in the 3rd quarter. Then in the 4th, start with your 3rd string and if you have enough depth, allow some 4th string players to play in the closing minutes.

The score would have been ridiculous no doubt, but pretty much the entire eligible roster would have gotten field time in an actual game.

that way helps you far less than working on controlling the ball. the goal is to beat USC (twice) not prepare your 4th string that likely never makes a 2 deep and never travels. get those depth guys in game? sure. runt he same offense because they'll be doing so versus a pac 12 team? not gonna happen.

you get up 30 than start controlling the clock, controlling the game.
you play back ups to protect your starters from injury but use the same clock controlling tactics and get the game over with quickly without any risk of losing and minimal risk of injury.

you also control the score because you do not want to give other teams more motivation and headline material. osu may well always be able to beat savannah state by 84 but now every team they face will hear how they better be ready to go or OSU will rip them by a million if possible.

in business many times you do not want to make more money. you want to lose money or merely break even. smart business people do very odd things like make profits only every other year. i am not going to pretend to know all the nuances but i assure you it is not good business practice to simply make the biggest pile of money you can. if cat the richest people almost never have much liquidity. they have assets instead.

the problem with the greed is good mantra is that it is often short-sighted and requires quite an intellect to really work.

i am a coach. i see this stuff weekly. weak-minded coaches pound anyone they can and cry about everything when they lose. it is all their own ego and nothing to do with player or system development. i have beaten teams quite badly but when i did it was with use of an altered system that made the game much harder on us to develop the players. i try to keep games close as possible so my players learn to perform in tight games. that way they aren't shocked or out of depths when they play a quality opponent and get down early. i constantly manufacture situations like that early in the season.

 

[WV Cowboy]

i try to keep games close as possible so my players learn to perform in tight games. that way they aren't shocked or out of depths when they play a quality opponent and get down early. i constantly manufacture situations like that early in the season.

Has that ever come back to bite you?

That seems like an odd thing to do, .. playing with fire.

 

[Biggems]

that way helps you far less than working on controlling the ball. the goal is to beat USC (twice) not prepare your 4th string that likely never makes a 2 deep and never travels. get those depth guys in game? sure. runt he same offense because they'll be doing so versus a pac 12 team? not gonna happen.

you get up 30 than start controlling the clock, controlling the game.
you play back ups to protect your starters from injury but use the same clock controlling tactics and get the game over with quickly without any risk of losing and minimal risk of injury.

you also control the score because you do not want to give other teams more motivation and headline material. osu may well always be able to beat savannah state by 84 but now every team they face will hear how they better be ready to go or OSU will rip them by a million if possible.

in business many times you do not want to make more money. you want to lose money or merely break even. smart business people do very odd things like make profits only every other year. i am not going to pretend to know all the nuances but i assure you it is not good business practice to simply make the biggest pile of money you can. if cat the richest people almost never have much liquidity. they have assets instead.

the problem with the greed is good mantra is that it is often short-sighted and requires quite an intellect to really work.

i am a coach. i see this stuff weekly. weak-minded coaches pound anyone they can and cry about everything when they lose. it is all their own ego and nothing to do with player or system development. i have beaten teams quite badly but when i did it was with use of an altered system that made the game much harder on us to develop the players. i try to keep games close as possible so my players learn to perform in tight games. that way they aren't shocked or out of depths when they play a quality opponent and get down early. i constantly manufacture situations like that early in the season.

Well that is why you have to be strong minded. If you dish it out, you better damn well be able to take it. If you can win 70-0, you better be able to lose 70-0. As far as playing it close, forget that nonsense. You go for broke or go home. The only reason to play a close game is if your opponent is on the same level as you. Otherwise, you beat em like a red-headed step-child in an orphanage.

We obviously have two differing philosophies. I do not agree with your Jim Tressel approach to football. You don't agree with my pedal to the metal approach. That is fine.....

 

[Aikbach]

Does the first coaches poll come out manana?