Finesse or Work Pail Team

[Jipper]

Lot of discussion going on about the old guard changing, having to change our offensive scheme because of Dez / witten departures, and i think there is one thing in here that we havent really focused on.

This team, during the Romo era, was much more of a finesse style team....flashy big plays, big names at the skill positions and, for the most part, poor trench play. Granted during his last couple of years the oline got a lot better but the dline was still weak and we still relied on big finesse plays.

Once Dak and Zeke started, we started moving back towards an offensive team focused on a run first methodology and less on the finesse focus (aka more work pail)....additionally, we have finally built our dline and LB corp to support a team that wins the battle through the trenches.


Everything we are seeing with this team, from the focus on the lines to the distrubtion of talent across a WR corp as opposed to a single top heavy, indicates this team will start to be less finesse and more work pail style.

Run first, run often....blitz offten and wear the other team out....looking forward to a lot of 23-13, 17-9 type of boring wins just like we had in the 90s....

pack your lunch boys, time to go to work, leave the caviar at home....and while were at it somebody get Jerry a PBR and tell him to put the Blue away for a bit

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

It feels like we’re both. Dak Zeke the OL all physical players. On the perimeter we’ve become pretty finesse

 

[casmith07]

I was going to say this above — I think Dallas made some good moves to re-achieve that balance that the team had in ‘14 and ‘16.

As good as Dez Bryant was for a while, and the attention he commanded on defense, not having the “chuck it up” play as an option for Linehan to call should be good. Or it’ll be a disaster.

 

[Redball Express]

Lot of discussion going on about the old guard changing, having to change our offensive scheme because of Dez / witten departures, and i think there is one thing in here that we havent really focused on.

This team, during the Romo era, was much more of a finesse style team....flashy big plays, big names at the skill positions and, for the most part, poor trench play. Granted during his last couple of years the oline got a lot better but the dline was still weak and we still relied on big finesse plays.

Once Dak and Zeke started, we started moving back towards an offensive team focused on a run first methodology and less on the finesse focus (aka more work pail)....additionally, we have finally built our dline and LB corp to support a team that wins the battle through the trenches.


Everything we are seeing with this team, from the focus on the lines to the distrubtion of talent across a WR corp as opposed to a single top heavy, indicates this team will start to be less finesse and more work pail style.

Run first, run often....blitz offten and wear the other team out....looking forward to a lot of 23-13, 17-9 type of boring wins just like we had in the 90s....

pack your lunch boys, time to go to work, leave the caviar at home....and while were at it somebody get Jerry a PBR and tell him to put the Blue away for a bit

It's difficult for a tiger to change his strips.

Actually..

with all the WRs signed and drafted..

we are going deep with the ball and the big plays will come in droves.

Tavon Austin

the FA signings..

a top pick at #3..

brother..shake your tea leaves..

its a little cloudy for you.

You are locked into your post as being the truth.

use that 3rd Eye and take a look again.

 

[CCBoy]

I was going to say this above — I think Dallas made some good moves to re-achieve that balance that the team had in ‘14 and ‘16.

As good as Dez Bryant was for a while, and the attention he commanded on defense, not having the “chuck it up” play as an option for Linehan to call should be good. Or it’ll be a disaster.

Feel that screens and play action raises a strong head this season?

 

[CATCH17]

It’s a big play league so if we don’t find big plays we’re going to struggle.

Trying to put together 10 play scoring drives is difficult. Especially when the NFL officials like to use our games as a lesson for their rule book.

 

[Proximo]

Once Dak and Zeke started, we started moving back towards an offensive team focused on a run first methodology

Overall I agree with your premise but disagree with this statement.

Dak and Zeke didn’t hit the scene till 2016. We were moving towards a run oriented offense as early as 2014. O-line was established as elite that year and we relied more on them and Murray and less on Romo’s arm (compared to previous years).

One of the main differences between our offense in 2014 and now is the QB style of play.

 

[Ranching]

Work pail talent, finesse coaching staff. Therein lies the problem.

 

[birdwells1]

In 2014 this team was a run first team with Murray, but if you ganged up to stop the run, Romo Dez Wit Beasley and twill could beat you.

Now they are a run first team out of necessity.

 

[CATCH17]

In 2014 this team was a run first team with Murray, but if you ganged up to stop the run, Romo Dez Wit Beasley and twill could beat you.

Now they are a run first team out of necessity.

Which is why I liked a guy like Chark in the draft who just burns on the outside.

 

[OmerV]

It’s a big play league so if we don’t find big plays we’re going to struggle.

Trying to put together 10 play scoring drives is difficult. Especially when the NFL officials like to use our games as a lesson for their rule book.

The bottom line is it is a score more than your opponent league, and an 80 yard TD doesn’t count more than a 80 yard, 10 play drive. Obviously some big play ability is needed because an easy score is a bonus, and there will be times it is needed to come back from a deficit, but I’m not sure it takes any more big plays than we had in 2014 or 2016.

 

[Hardline]

Dispite his size Michael Gallup is a physical WR.

 

[big dog cowboy]

looking forward to a lot of 23-13, 17-9 type of boring wins just like we had in the 90s....

The Cowboys scored 30 or more points 8 times last year. They should up that number this year.

 

[ShiningStar]

Nasty, they all dont have to be, but we need some Haleys, Columbos, guys who can get into the opponents head and tear stuff up on the field.

 

[CouchCoach]

The key is to be able to be either when needed and there are some players that are finesse because of their size or style of play like Austin and Beasley and then we've got power with Zeke and Bo and mostly finesse with the other WR's. Ya know, Dez could have used quite a bit more finesse to his game.

The mistake some make with the term finesse is that it denotes weakness while power, lunch pail or blue collar denotes strength. A DE makes a bull rush to over power the OT, lunch pail, right? But what about a spin move or swim move? Isn't that finesse? Aren't most good DE's a bit of both?

Most would think Witten because of his position and size was a lunch pail guy. Just listen to how he described running the Y Option, all finesse.

My problem with finesse is when and where it is used, inside the 5 yard line. They've got 5 lunch pail OL and 3 lunch pail RB's, Zeke, Bo and Rod and a lunch pail QB. That's no time for finesse. That's line up and smack them in the mouth and take their lunch money.

 

[SSoup]

We have the personnel for a very tough offense. But we still have coaches who can't help but get cutesy and finesse too often.

You know those games where we're playing a low-scoring, close game... and you look at the stat sheet and see that we're inexplicably calling 40-50 passing plays? That still happens. It was too common in the Romo era, and it's happened too often even during the Dak era when you'd have thought the team would have stopped that habit. The team's coaching staff is too quick to find excuses to pass instead of run, and they're too quick to give the QB leeway to opt for passes instead of run at the line of scrimmage, and it costs us every season.

 

[Mr_437]

Work pail talent, finesse coaching staff. Therein lies the problem.

Look where this team practices...around shopping centers n crap. The Joneses are corporatizing this team. They won't win nothing like this, football is played n the dirt not n business rooms. Time to get real or continue to lose on thru Stephen's tenure as owner.

Everyone knows th way DAL Cowboys are built they should be grit n grime team.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Isn't the WR position basically a finesse position by nature. Surely after the catch requires some physicality. But rules dictate a hands off for the most part on both sides of the WR/CB relationship.

So when someone says Dak and Zeke and the OL are physical but the edges are finesse, then doesn't that just reflect the rules of the game more than toughness?

 

[casmith07]

Feel that screens and play action raises a strong head this season?

One can only hope, sir -- this team is better and functions better with good run/pass balance that sets up play action.

 

[Falco78]

pack your lunch boys, time to go to work, leave the caviar at home....and while were at it somebody get Jerry a PBR and tell him to put the Blue away for a bit

I eat caviar everywhere I can!