FoxSports--Why football is better than baseball (Parcells mention)

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Cue the fireworks: Football is national pastime
Kevin Hench / FOXSports.com

Could anything be more blasphemous than denigrating baseball on the 4th of July?

What's next, mom is overrated and apple pie is no match for chocolate cake?
Don't get me wrong, I love baseball. I am a baseball freak, a seamhead who is down with OBP, OPS and batting average with RISP. It's just that from where I'm sitting baseball has been supplanted by football as the national pastime. (Both, of course, have been supplanted by NASCAR as the regional pastime, but let's just pretend we still live in a world where most people prefer sports where the athlete is more important than the internal combustion engine.)

I probably won't get any argument in Wisconsin, where the Packers are a religion and the Brewers are a punch line. In my adopted home of Southern California, however, fans might see things differently. They've been jilted by two football teams and have two proud baseball franchises fighting for their loyalty. I come at the argument from the lofty and unprejudiced perspective of a New England sports fan, whose baseball and football teams are both reigning champions.

While it's true that no sports experience could ever top what Red Sox fans experienced last October — even last-second field goals to win Super Bowls took a back seat — the fact is that the National Football League's product is more reflective of America's sporting soul than baseball.

How so? Here are 10 reasons why football is America's new national pastime.

Sunday is an event
For all different kinds of Americans, Sunday is a sacred day. It is a day of worship, a day of family, and — in my case — a day to get together with buddies, eat, drink and watch five separate football games simultaneously. (We've tried to develop a call-letter system so you can steer people's attention to a particular screen, but no one can ever remember if Alpha refers to the far left or the big projection screen in the middle.)

Some guys are rooting like crazy for their Bills or Pats or Steelers, others for their fantasy teams, and still others for a particular game to merely pass the over/under threshold. The point is that beginning in Week 1, every Sunday of football season is an event. Guys are screaming, swearing, seething and, occasionally, even smiling. There is nothing like it in baseball.

Violence
In case you haven't been to a megaplex or seen Deadwood or the Sopranos (when, oh when are you returning?) or pro wrestling or played Halo or Grand Theft Auto, we Americans sure like our violence. I don't know how you'd measure such a thing, but I suspect violence has surpassed sex as our nation's go-to indulgence of the lesser angels of our nature.

Sure, occasionally a former football player like Darin Erstad will crush a catcher at the plate, but for the most part baseball just can't satisfy our bloodlust.

On a related note, the NFL has to back off its fines and penalties for inadvertent helmet-to-helmet contact. That's why they are wearing helmets!

Every game matters
Let's face it, when you play 162 games, your concentration is going to wander, especially when you're playing in front of 35,000 empty seats against a non-contender in late August. But in football, every game, every snap matters, right from the opening kickoff of the season.

Just ask the Indianapolis Colts how much every game matters. A missed field goal in their opening game against the Patriots doomed them to return to Foxboro for another January playoff loss. No baseball team can ever point to an opening-day loss as the pivotal moment of the season.

Heck, in baseball, you can even lose three straight games in the World Series and still prevail — the '87 Twins come to mind. In the NFL playoffs, the one-and-done format raises the stakes and the drama. The World Series has come down to a one-game, winner-take-all finale 35 times in its 101-year history. The Super Bowl has come down to a one-game, winner-take-all finale all 39 times it has been played.

The salary cap
One of the defining elements of American culture — as mythical as it may be — is that all men are created equal. Growing out of that founding principle, we have strived over our 11 score and nine years to make sure that the playing field was level for all people, though we have often disagreed on how best to achieve that goal.

Ironic, then, that the one place where the playing field is actually level is the very place from which the metaphor stems, an athletic field (although if a football field were truly level there would probably be drainage problems). Football's salary cap may lead to cruel and confusing roster moves — nowhere else are All-Pros routinely cut — but it does mean that no matter how forsaken your team is today, with a good draft, a couple of decent free-agent signings and a shrewd coaching staff, they can be contenders almost overnight.

Such is not the case in baseball, where George Steinbrenner can spend the entire D-Rays' payroll on a weak-hitting first baseman and an inconsistent No. 4 starter. Yes, there will always be one or two great stories like the Nationals, but year after year the eight playoff teams will be comprised mostly of the teams with the highest payrolls.

Fantasy Football
America was founded, has been sustained and will be led into the future by dreamers. The founders' fulfillment of their dreams delivered us from taxation without representation, and we have now arrived at a place in history where a lucky few have lots of representation with almost no taxation.

I, too, have a dream. That one day in any of my multiple fantasy football leagues I will actually hoist the championship trophy. (Will somebody explain to me how I missed the playoffs with Drew Brees, Brian Westbrook, Muhsin Muhammad and Tony Gonzalez?)

While it's true that there probably wouldn't have been any fantasy football without rotisserie baseball, roto baseball has been left in the dust by fantasy football. Sundays, my friends and I invariably face some crazy emotional conflict between real life and fantasy.

"Buddy, why the long face? Your Cowboys just scored."

"Yeah, but I'm going against Keyshawn in fantasy."

It's embarrassing, but a tough fantasy football loss can ruin my whole weekend. Roto baseball just never seems to get as intense.

One other note on fantasy sports and its place in the fabric of American life: If you have a roto baseball team, you are by definition a sports geek. But plenty of normal, employed, fully functioning adults have fantasy football teams. I, of course, have both and long ago made my peace with being an abnormal, semi-functioning sports geek.

For every season ...
Part of America's majesty is its incredible range of physical beauty. From snow-capped purple mountains to sun-dappled painted deserts, there's a postcard off the next exit. I'm in verdant New England for the 4th, where the lush green will yield to a spectacular explosion of colors in a couple of months before settling into a winter wonderland for, oh, about six months. Which brings us to the fact that you can't play baseball in much of the country for much of the year.

Baseball is a summer sport, but its most important games are often played in near-wintry conditions with Joe Buck starting the broadcast by informing us what the wind-chill factor is.

Football is an all-weather, all-terrain sport that has the versatility to be played in withering heat and in sub-zero temperatures. Rain, sleet, snow, 59 below? Bring it.

Baseball just had a game end in a tie because it was raining.

Tailgating
On our National Barbecue Holiday, what better day to celebrate the sport that is most synonymous with firing up the grill?

Sure, we are smack dab in the middle of baseball season and football training camp hasn't begun yet, but as you wash down those sausages and peppers with a cold beer today, just think how happy you'd be if it were merely a prelude to three hours of full-contact tackle football.

There's a certain thrill piling into a subway with your fellow fans on the Green Line to Fenway or the No. 4 to Yankee Stadium or the El to Wrigley. But it's just not quite as American as dropping the tailgate on the F-250, throwing some red meat on the grill and popping open an ice gold Anheuser-Busch product, now is it?

Athleticism
Forget for a second that America has become a sedentary culture of video games and reality TV voyeurism. Think instead of our long line of 100-meter champions, swimming gold medalists and boxing greats. The United States has consistently produced the greatest athletes in the world. Nowhere is this more true than on the football field.

It's long been accepted that the hardest thing to do in all sports is hit a round ball (going 90 miles per hour) with a round bat squarely. But the fact is Terrell Owens would eventually make solid contact with a Major League fastball while no big leaguer could ever do what Owens did in the Super Bowl. NFL running backs, wide receivers, linebackers and defensive backs have a combination of strength and speed that boggles the mind. Baseball has David Wells, who, in his own way, boggles the mind — like when he lost a footrace to first base with lead-footed Jim Thome last week.

Coaching
In America, we are taught that through hard work and smarts we can accomplish anything. (At least I think that's what we were taught, I was pretty foggy on a lot of Tuesdays as a schoolboy after staying up to watch Monday Night Football.)

Football has a long history of actual geniuses patrolling the sidelines, most notably Bill Walsh, Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick. These brilliant minds studied their sport and found ways to revolutionize it. Walsh turned the game upside down and made the passing game — long considered high risk — the most efficient way to maintain possession.

Parcells was the first coach to understand that special teams were fully one-third of the game and he won championships by discovering talent like punt-coverage specialist Reyna Thompson and return man Dave Meggett.

Belichick has created a system that expands the limits of the 45-man roster by stressing versatility. He has found linebackers who can become down linemen, safeties who can play corner and one very special wide receiver who can play nickelback. Other coaches must feel like they're up against 55-man rosters.

Baseball gave us Grady Little. When my mom — and every other mom in New England — was screaming at Grady to lift Pedro after seven but he just froze, well, you get the feeling ol' Grady would be a little overwhelmed by the particulars of a hot read against a zone blitz.

The fact is managing a baseball team is easy. Hit-and-run, lefty-lefty, infield in, intentional walk to set up the double play. Most of the decisions are fairly obvious and all can be made at a leisurely pace. Coaching football is nearly impossible with hundreds of options on each snap and each decision needing to be made with the play clock winding down. A baseball manager and his staff could stay at the office until 5 a.m., but they'd better bring a deck of cards because there just aren't that many contingencies to prepare for. (Though they still manage to get confused.)

Nationalism
The simplest reason football has replaced baseball as the national pastime is nationalism.

Except for the occasional kicker, American football is played by Americans. Big ol' linemen from the corn belt, speed merchants from Florida and Texas and quarterbacks from Pennsylvania.

Not so with baseball.

It may be called the American League, but a quick look at the AL All-Star starters and you'll see nearly half the team is from the Dominican Republic. No other country has adopted American football as its national pastime. But Japan, Cuba and the Dominican are all more wild about baseball than America.

That the United States has long been an underdog in Olympic baseball has been explained away because we have been sending our amateurs. But now it is hard to imagine a team of U.S. professionals being favored against the Dominicans.

The worst team in the NFL, meanwhile, would crush the best football team the rest of the world could put together.
 

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George Carlin -

Baseball is a nineteenth-century pastoral game.
Football is a twentieth-century technological struggle.

Baseball is played on a diamond, in a park.The baseball park!
Football is played on a gridiron, in a stadium, sometimes called Soldier Field or War Memorial Stadium.

Baseball begins in the spring, the season of new life.
Football begins in the fall, when everything's dying.

In football you wear a helmet.
In baseball you wear a cap.

Football is concerned with downs - what down is it?
Baseball is concerned with ups - who's up?

In football you receive a penalty.
In baseball you make an error.

In football the specialist comes in to kick.
In baseball the specialist comes in to relieve somebody.

Football has hitting, clipping, spearing, piling on, personal fouls, late hitting and unnecessary roughness.
Baseball has the sacrifice.

Football is played in any kind of weather: rain, snow, sleet, hail, fog...
In baseball, if it rains, we don't go out to play.

Baseball has the seventh inning stretch.
Football has the two minute warning.

Baseball has no time limit: we don't know when it's gonna end - might have extra innings.
Football is rigidly timed, and it will end even if we've got to go to sudden death.

In baseball, during the game, in the stands, there's kind of a picnic feeling; emotions may run high or low, but there's not too much unpleasantness.
In football, during the game in the stands, you can be sure that at least twenty-seven times you're capable of taking the life of a fellow human being.

And finally, the objectives of the two games are completely different:

In football the object is for the quarterback, also known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his receivers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! - I hope I'll be safe at home!
 

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I find also that football really appeals to today's youth more than baseball. I couldn't understand why people loved baseball so much when I was growing up. Funny thing is the older I get the more I appreciate and enjoy baseball. The slower pace, the rythms of the game and it's quiet situational intensity.

Although as much as I love baseball now, I don't think it'll ever come up to football in my eyes.
 

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This was a pretty good breakdown -- however, it was also unfair! Baseball comapared to football is like golf compared to Basketball! Now, on the other hand, could someone do a comparison between Football and Rugby!


Two similar but very different sports. Equipment versus no-equipment (extent of injuries?). This would be a far better comparison with like qualities.
 

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Baseball is in essence a game, like Golf or Billiards, where one player can, and usually does, have an enormous impact on the game. Only one person at a time is really doing anything.

Football is a team sport where teamwork is much more critical than individual achievement. Everyone on the field is involved on every play: running, blocking, tackling, throwing, catching, etc.

In baseball, if you have a dominant pitcher the guys in the outfield may not have anything to do for several minutes at a time. The infield players don't have to move around much unless the ball is coming their way. In fact, they aren't supposed to move away from their base in most cases.

In football, every player has something to do and someplace to go on every play. Offensive linemen are the only ones who don't move a lot but they do get their opportunities when pulling on sweeps. Also, they aren't just standing around, they are using every ounce of strength, every bit of leverage, moving their feet to maintain their balance, and countering the defender on every play.

To me it is comparing apples and oranges. They are two completely different types of atheltic competition.

I haven't watched baseball since 1994 and don't care if I never see another game in my life. Football represents the American mentality much better than any other sport.
 

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THUMPER said:
Baseball is in essence a game, like Golf or Billiards, where one player can, and usually does, have an enormous impact on the game. Only one person at a time is really doing anything.

Football is a team sport where teamwork is much more critical than individual achievement. Everyone on the field is involved on every play: running, blocking, tackling, throwing, catching, etc.

In baseball, if you have a dominant pitcher the guys in the outfield may not have anything to do for several minutes at a time. The infield players don't have to move around much unless the ball is coming their way. In fact, they aren't supposed to move away from their base in most cases.

In football, every player has something to do and someplace to go on every play. Offensive linemen are the only ones who don't move a lot but they do get their opportunities when pulling on sweeps. Also, they aren't just standing around, they are using every ounce of strength, every bit of leverage, moving their feet to maintain their balance, and countering the defender on every play.

To me it is comparing apples and oranges. They are two completely different types of atheltic competition.

I haven't watched baseball since 1994 and don't care if I never see another game in my life. Football represents the American mentality much better than any other sport.

Excellent thoughts as usual. If there was "Quality Posts:" counter next to your "Posts:" counter I think the number would be the same. Love the sig, BTW.
 

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Wimbo said:
George Carlin -

Baseball is a nineteenth-century pastoral game.
Football is a twentieth-century technological struggle.

Baseball is played on a diamond, in a park.The baseball park!
Football is played on a gridiron, in a stadium, sometimes called Soldier Field or War Memorial Stadium.

Baseball begins in the spring, the season of new life.
Football begins in the fall, when everything's dying.

In football you wear a helmet.
In baseball you wear a cap.

Football is concerned with downs - what down is it?
Baseball is concerned with ups - who's up?

In football you receive a penalty.
In baseball you make an error.

In football the specialist comes in to kick.
In baseball the specialist comes in to relieve somebody.

Football has hitting, clipping, spearing, piling on, personal fouls, late hitting and unnecessary roughness.
Baseball has the sacrifice.

Football is played in any kind of weather: rain, snow, sleet, hail, fog...
In baseball, if it rains, we don't go out to play.

Baseball has the seventh inning stretch.
Football has the two minute warning.

Baseball has no time limit: we don't know when it's gonna end - might have extra innings.
Football is rigidly timed, and it will end even if we've got to go to sudden death.

In baseball, during the game, in the stands, there's kind of a picnic feeling; emotions may run high or low, but there's not too much unpleasantness.
In football, during the game in the stands, you can be sure that at least twenty-seven times you're capable of taking the life of a fellow human being.

And finally, the objectives of the two games are completely different:

In football the object is for the quarterback, also known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his receivers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! - I hope I'll be safe at home!


classic carlin observations. and the inflections in his voice really heighten the sense of the contrasting philosophies of the respective sports. i just love this bit.

thank you wimbo. :) :) :) :) :)
 

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Well atleast the Phillies can say the won a works series. No comparison, baeball players have to be the biggest bawl babies in professional sports.
 

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Watching baseball reminds me of watching the cake in the oven when I was a kid.."when will it finally be finished"

I find golf more exciting to watch...

now I like to play baseball but it has to be one of the most boring things to watch and like I said now a days too much scratch and sniffing going on
 

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I always loved Robert Klein's take on the difference between the 2 sports:

Baseball--the pitcher has a hangnail, needs 2 days off.

Football penalty--"For tearing the opposing player's arms off, & calling his mama a bad name, 10 yards."
 

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Wimbo said:
George Carlin -

Baseball is a nineteenth-century pastoral game.
Football is a twentieth-century technological struggle.

Baseball is played on a diamond, in a park.The baseball park!
Football is played on a gridiron, in a stadium, sometimes called Soldier Field or War Memorial Stadium.

Baseball begins in the spring, the season of new life.
Football begins in the fall, when everything's dying.

In football you wear a helmet.
In baseball you wear a cap.

Football is concerned with downs - what down is it?
Baseball is concerned with ups - who's up?

In football you receive a penalty.
In baseball you make an error.

In football the specialist comes in to kick.
In baseball the specialist comes in to relieve somebody.

Football has hitting, clipping, spearing, piling on, personal fouls, late hitting and unnecessary roughness.
Baseball has the sacrifice.

Football is played in any kind of weather: rain, snow, sleet, hail, fog...
In baseball, if it rains, we don't go out to play.

Baseball has the seventh inning stretch.
Football has the two minute warning.

Baseball has no time limit: we don't know when it's gonna end - might have extra innings.
Football is rigidly timed, and it will end even if we've got to go to sudden death.

In baseball, during the game, in the stands, there's kind of a picnic feeling; emotions may run high or low, but there's not too much unpleasantness.
In football, during the game in the stands, you can be sure that at least twenty-seven times you're capable of taking the life of a fellow human being.

And finally, the objectives of the two games are completely different:

In football the object is for the quarterback, also known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his receivers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! - I hope I'll be safe at home!
I have that very Carlin standup on record.
Classic performance. Highly recommended.
It's hilarious.

Carlin=The Greatest Ever
 

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ravidubey said:
Excellent thoughts as usual. If there was "Quality Posts:" counter next to your "Posts:" counter I think the number would be the same. Love the sig, BTW.

Wow, that was high praise! Thank you.

As for signatures... I used to use that quote from Landry in classes I taught. :bravo:
 

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Ha! That bit by Carlin was classic!

I used to like baseball, but it's almost unwatchable now. I'm not sure what it is - maybe it's Steinbrenner buying up all the players, or the games taking ridiculously long to play, or the longer season. It's a neat thing to do on a lazy summer day with my son, but there's no adrenline and no passion like football.

I like to put it this way: Baseball is just a distraction; it only needs to keep us interested until training camp gets here (and it hasn't done the job this year, btw).
 

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Qouting Michael Irvin on "the best damn sports show"

"Yea Baseball IS America's Pastime. We use it to PASS Time untill football season starts again".

^^^ Wise words.

Another thing about Baseball and Football. How often do u see a baseball player, play injured? Almost never. If they have a sore muscle now they hit the DL. How often do u see a football player sit out because of soreness? Whats next? "15 Day DL after suffering a Hangnail in the pregame"
 

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That was great Wimbo. I have not heard Carlin in years but reading it was liking watching his standup.
 
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